Power Draw-Mike Massey-2 ways
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great info, thanks.
Dr. Dave
In your article you mention that a cue can be too light and can cause double hits.
I have a very light cue <14oz without my rubber grip. There have been times where the CB takes off in a total different direction than intended. Just like a miss cue only without the sound associated with a miss cue. Its been so bad that while aiming at the right side of an OB I'll hit the left or completely miss on the left side. And the OB is not far away at all.
Doesn't happen very often. Only on the most important shot of the year.:angry:
Do you think its from a double hit?
Yes I do. A light-cue double hit looks just like a miscue.
Do you use this cue on all shots or just some? Why so light?
Regards,
Dave
wrist action will add to your ball speed, so even if you slow down your stroke you can get more control over your wrist and point of contact.
if you stroke with a downward vector at point of contact, you're losing energy into the felt. That causes the felt to burn.
Now if you can compress your shaft enough to get beyond level, to where you are actually throwing the ball without driving it into the felt... then you win. You get this a little anyway with deflection.
pulling 2 table lengths is easy, finding a band-aid for your bloody knuckles is much more difficult.
if you stroke with a downward vector at point of contact, you're losing energy into the felt. That causes the felt to burn.
Now if you can compress your shaft enough to get beyond level, to where you are actually throwing the ball without driving it into the felt... then you win. You get this a little anyway with deflection.
pulling 2 table lengths is easy, finding a band-aid for your bloody knuckles is much more difficult.
JC
Coos Cues
Exactly what Dave explained in his article. I was just pointing out that your assertion was flawed scientifically. It's the same way a .45 slug delivers more energy than a 9mm moving much faster.
Mystery solved I suppose.
Yes this is my playing cue for all shots.
Why so light? Well I always liked light cues and a couple of years ago Dieckman handed me a 14oz cue to hit with.
I loved it. About a year later I had him make me one.
I have been playing around with adding weight and believe I want to be around 16oz. Where does this issue go away.
Remember this is a fairly stiff shaft for 3C. Wouldn't that have a factor eliminating the double hit?
In case You're Interested
Mike Massy will be in Fresno, CA on Saturday, Jan. 7, 2012 at the Break Room Pool hall owned by my close friend, Mike Tucci. Mike Masseywill be putting on an exhibition trick shot, signing autographs and is conducting a 3 hr. clinic for more beginners and advanced players as wel........the clinic is sold out since it had a limited number of players.
The Break Room's telephone number is 559-376-9000 in case any readers are interested and just happen to be in the vicinity next weekend. Call and ask for Mike Tucci or Phi Costellol....tell them you learned about this from bavafongoul on AZ or just tell 'em Matt told you about the event.....They'll know who I am.....next Sat. promises to be a great time.
Matt
Mike Massy will be in Fresno, CA on Saturday, Jan. 7, 2012 at the Break Room Pool hall owned by my close friend, Mike Tucci. Mike Masseywill be putting on an exhibition trick shot, signing autographs and is conducting a 3 hr. clinic for more beginners and advanced players as wel........the clinic is sold out since it had a limited number of players.
The Break Room's telephone number is 559-376-9000 in case any readers are interested and just happen to be in the vicinity next weekend. Call and ask for Mike Tucci or Phi Costellol....tell them you learned about this from bavafongoul on AZ or just tell 'em Matt told you about the event.....They'll know who I am.....next Sat. promises to be a great time.
Matt
Have you ever looked at your tip right after this happens? Sometimes I have hits that act like minor miscues (no really sharp sound) and the cue ball doesn't go quite the right way. The tip has some discoloration but not like a real miscue.
I suppose I haven't looked at it that close. If there wasn't a clean spot like a miscue I probably ignored it. I'll pay closer attention next time. But it only happens 3 or 4 times a year. Hope I remember.
Wish there was a way to recreat the hit.
That's not easy to answer because it depends on your stroke type, grip, and arm mass, all of which cause the cue to accelerate after ball contact. The best way to figure it out for a given person is to increase the weight until the double-hit goes away.
If anything, a stiffer shaft will be more likely to double hit because the tip doesn't deflect away from the ball as much and it returns more quickly (as the CB is trying to escape).
Regards,
Dave
If you watch closely, you see that he does not drop his elbow on either shot until after the CB has been struck. I'm not saying you should or shouldn't drop your elbow. Jasmin does it on almost every shot. I have seen this shot done both ways. The Oyster does it without any drop, so I doubt that whether to drop or not is the real key to this shot.