Power draw shot

Awesome! I couldnt do that shot at all. I can barely draw a CB when hitting an OB thats about a foot away.

Happy shooting!:)

Chino
 
Hope everyone notices were the shooter is until the cueball comes back to him. Tip down still pointing at the target.

NICE STROKE!!!!....SPF=randyg
 
Slasher--

First, I'm jealous because you have a snooker table near you. I'm going through snooker withdrawal. I can't wait to play again.

Second, nice shot!

RandyG-

I have a question regarding remaining still. People are always saying that the tip only makes contact for something like 1/1000 of a second which is why follow-through length, etc, really doesn't matter. If that's the case, what does it matter if someone remains still or not - or if they danced the hula until the CB sucked back to them as opposed to remaining still?

I always hear instructors say follow through really well and remain still - but if the tip only makes contact for 1/1000 of a second-- why does it matter? I'm asking because I really don't know :)

Dave
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Slasher--

First, I'm jealous because you have a snooker table near you. I'm going through snooker withdrawal. I can't wait to play again.

Second, nice shot!

RandyG-

I have a question regarding remaining still. People are always saying that the tip only makes contact for something like 1/1000 of a second which is why follow-through length, etc, really doesn't matter. If that's the case, what does it matter if someone remains still or not - or if they danced the hula until the CB sucked back to them as opposed to remaining still?

I always hear instructors say follow through really well and remain still - but if the tip only makes contact for 1/1000 of a second-- why does it matter? I'm asking because I really don't know :)

Dave
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Staying still helps for a few reasons.

1) If you're freezing at the finish of the shot, then you're certainly not jumping or moving during the final stroke, which I think everyone agrees is a bad thing to do.

2) When you freeze at the end of the shot, you can see where your cue finished. If you didn't stroke straight through the ball, this will be evident in your finish position, and you'll be able to observe it and use that feedback to improve your stroke.

3) Staying down and continuing to sight down your cue will keep a consistent frame of reference to observe the results of your shot. Your brain can record what the CB and OB do, versus what you wanted them to do, in great detail from this perspective. If you stand up before the shot is done, you have to adjust to looking at the shot from a diffferent angle, and your brain will not be able to calculate what went right/wrong nearly as effectively. Getting the best possible visual feedback is crucial, since this feedback is drawn upon heavily by your subconscious the next time you're lining up a similar shot.

There may be other benefits as well, but I think those are the most important.

-Andrew
 
Slasher said:
Me working on my stroke today at the snooker club.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z2fJ-3elVTc
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That's a very impressive stroke. Were you using a pool cue? That would make it even more impressive.

Did you get this result consistently? If you can pot that ball and draw the CB straight back to where you started consistently, then you have something very special going on in your right arm.

-Andrew
 
Andrew Manning said:
That's a very impressive stroke. Were you using a pool cue? That would make it even more impressive.

Did you get this result consistently? If you can pot that ball and draw the CB straight back to where you started consistently, then you have something very special going on in your right arm.

-Andrew
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Thanks to all for the kind words.

I am using my Gilbert pool cue but I build two matching shafts, 12mm and 10mm tips (mooris) so that the feel is the same no matter which game I play.

And yes I can repeat this stroke fairly consistently. It has taken many hours to get my cue going through straight, I was pushing it to the right for a long time but I seem to have worked it out.

The reason for staying down was well explained a couple of posts up, it makes sure that my head is not coming up or my cue off the hand.
I don't really care what they say about the time the tip is in contact, experience tells me follow through is important.

Thanks again.
 
SpiderWebComm said:
Slasher--

First, I'm jealous because you have a snooker table near you. I'm going through snooker withdrawal. I can't wait to play again.

Second, nice shot!

RandyG-

I have a question regarding remaining still. People are always saying that the tip only makes contact for something like 1/1000 of a second which is why follow-through length, etc, really doesn't matter. If that's the case, what does it matter if someone remains still or not - or if they danced the hula until the CB sucked back to them as opposed to remaining still?

I always hear instructors say follow through really well and remain still - but if the tip only makes contact for 1/1000 of a second-- why does it matter? I'm asking because I really don't know :)

Dave
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Moving while down on the shot will affect your alignement. It would be difficult to jump up and keep your perfect in line and not affect your stroke. Try video taping yourself jumping up and see how it affects your cueing. Guys like Alex Higgins and Keith Mccready are able to either keep their cue on line or they are jumping after they have struck the ball. It's just easier to develop a repeatable stroke without moving around.

Following through is neccessary to develop timing in your stroke. If you can strike the cue ball at peak velocity you will be able to generate more power with less effort, Slashers video for example. Watch some of Ronnie O'Sullivan on youtube and you will notice he barely hits the ball, however he can still spin it around the table with ease.

If you do not follow through, you are essentially slowing your stroke down before you strike the cue ball. In order to generate the same speed you have expend more effort than the player with a nice follow through. Finally due to the extra effort used to stop the cue at contact, it can cause you hit the cue ball crooked.
 
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randyg said:
Hope everyone notices were the shooter is until the cueball comes back to him. Tip down still pointing at the target.

NICE STROKE!!!!....SPF=randyg
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Yeah, when the cueball drew back it almost touched his cue again and that would have been a foul. Talk about a slow reaction! :D

But seriously, I've seen Slasher work on his stroke a lot. He earned it.
 
shinobi said:
Yeah, when the cueball drew back it almost touched his cue again and that would have been a foul. Talk about a slow reaction! :D

But seriously, I've seen Slasher work on his stroke a lot. He earned it.
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Thanks buddy, since the lay off I have been able to work out that right swerve to almost straight, not sure if it was the back injury that was messin with my alignment but it is definitely better.
You have to strike the cue ball very low to get this reaction without using too much power so hitting center ball is crucial.
The video really helps see what you need to fix, great tool for anyone wanting to improve their stroke.
 
Slasher said:
Snooker: power draw shot
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You really screwed that shot! Although I suppose it's fair to say to you had power draw since we are in the U.S. of A.

-td
 
td873 said:
You really screwed that shot! Although I suppose it's fair to say to you had power draw since we are in the U.S. of A.

-td
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Good point, what do they call it in the States, draw?
 
Pulling up on a shot.

If you move around a lot after the shot, it's due to a lack of control and concentration on your part. If you're pulling your arm or wrist (name a body part) because the contact duration is soo minute, who's to say when you're pulliing up? Is it REALLY after the contact?

It might be during contact which will always throw off the shot. Some people like to swipe for BHE but that lowers consistency IMO. that's because the more you move the cue around while stroking, the less sure you can be of where it will actually strike the CB.

I just recently noticed the avatar of Joe Tucker and I have to say that for learning WHERE you are striking the ball during a normal no english shot, that HAS to be a good device.

If you can perfect your stroke to the point that you can pot balls consistently with that device on your cue, you probably aren't moving much when you stroke.

Jaden
 
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