ever heard this? predator shafts lose their low deflection abilitys in two years...
predator shafts wear out...
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I would imagine, like ALL shafts, as its dimensions change so too do its properties. Shaft diameters change over time with burnishings and cleanings. The amount of deflection is going to change as well. I've owned Predator shafts that are five years old and they seem to play fine. I can't tell the difference.
The main strucutre doesn't change, so loosing an ability which caused by the "pie"construction is a weird think. IMHO 
The only way I see the shaft failing is if the laminate fails, which shouldn't happen for a long time if ever.
False, if anything through attrition and wearing down of the shafts over the years by having new tips put on, sanding of the shaft and other things the shaft becomes tip area becomes smaller and if anything starts producing less deflection.
But wood doesn't have a perfect memory and will fatigue but I have never seen anyone play long enough with the same shaft to do that, we are talking about shafts that are 40+ years old that haven't failed by fatigue. Mostly shafts get too small for a person's liking before the wood will give, the taper and diameter will change slightly from having normal work done to their cue or by using products that take material off.
But wood doesn't have a perfect memory and will fatigue but I have never seen anyone play long enough with the same shaft to do that, we are talking about shafts that are 40+ years old that haven't failed by fatigue. Mostly shafts get too small for a person's liking before the wood will give, the taper and diameter will change slightly from having normal work done to their cue or by using products that take material off.
i figured it was a load when i heard it the entire quote was "they lose their ability to do what they do in 2 years the only reason pros play with them is because they get them for free"that was followed by"predator(cues)are crap and id never sell one in my store".needless to say i walked out in utter disbelief but just thought i would run it by
I lubricate my shaft often so it stays in good shape and I stay in stroke.
It's a shame that someone who is selling cues/shafts in general let's their personal beliefs spread misinformation like that, I wonder why he/she is so bitter about the whole deal. Maybe he asked for sponsorship from them and got turned down?
tjlmbklr said:
Not necessarily. I mean, it's been over 20 years since my Strengths of Materials class in high school but there are a few factors in play here and how that affects the outcome is not necessarily ascertained by assumption. There is a chance there would be no (or minimal) impact on deflection for a certain range of shaft diameters and there's a chance it could have an opposite effect - maybe the shaft becomes whippy.
From my own observations, I've seen no difference. When I get new shafts, it doesn't slow me down at all. If I switch to an older shaft, I don't notice anything. However, the only REAL way to have an accurate answer is to conduct objective tests with a range of samples.
This is a standard belief in Taiwan. One pro told me they are through after 6 months of pro play (6 hours/day). Thats why they aren't big over there.
I have no idea if it's true. Me i cant tell the specific difference between shafts, whippy, stifff whatever all the same to me. I play with a Predator.
I have no idea if it's true. Me i cant tell the specific difference between shafts, whippy, stifff whatever all the same to me. I play with a Predator.
It's the hole down the center that makes them low deflection.
Mowem down said:
My original ones wore out after about 4 years of heavy play. They were still low deflection but they were weak and my play deteriorated. They wore into this shape: ")(" and were as thin as 11.5 mm even though the tip was still 12.25 mm.
I got 2 new 314-2's a few years ago and they are terrific. I haven't played with them as much, but there is no wear at all, and I'm making sure I have my tips changed by a pro (Tiger Products) who will never sand the shafts.
Shafts wear down over time from chalk dust abrading them against your skin, sanding during tip changes, etc.
Chris
I've seen that happen when people use a scrubby pad or other sanding piece, you don't realize it but you sand the middle of the shaft twice andthe tip only once with every stroke, that's how you get the uneven wear pattern.
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Nostroke said:
i hear the predator shafts that they get in asia aren't the same quality that we get here in the north america or europe.