Predator WPA World 8 Ball Championship 2023 (17-22 Oct 2023), Austria, Winner $75K

markjames

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Agreed, but that's not what I meant. Yes, some of the best cueists everywhere are taking a shot at the huge prize money offered by Chinese 8-ball.

What I'm wondering is whether the game will become popular with European and American fans and whether we'll see the game played much in Europe and America anytime soon.
i play on that table in brooklyn it’s excellent
and the table is taller, all very interesting
 

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sjm

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This has been a very interesting 8-ball Championship. The pockets played pretty loose throughout.
While this is true, I'm glad to see the side pockets in use again. When the pockets are super tight, it takes the side pockets out of play more than I prefer.
 

skogstokig

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A few stats on today's semifinal matches:

Pehlivanovic defeated Lechner 10-8
- Successful breaks numbered 11. All 11 became B&Rs, 6 by Pehlivanovic and 5 by Lechner.​
- Dry breaks numbered 7. 6 of the 7 were run out by the non-breaker on his first, and only, visit.​
- So 17 of the 18 games ended in 1 inning. The other game ended on the breaker's second visit.​
- The only miss or foul by either player in the entire match was Lechner's miss on the 8-ball (in Game 16, leading 8-7) after bad position from his last solid.​

Van Boening defeated Szewczyk 10-9
- SVB was dry on 7 of 10 breaks, Szewczyk was dry or fouled on 7 of 9.​
- B&Rs numbered 1 -- by SVB.​
- Each player missed 4 shots (counting a couple of 2-ways as safeties).​
- SVB fouled once, Szewczyk twice (on 2 breaks).​

So it looks like Pehlivanovic has an easy path to the title tomorrow, right? ;)

thanks. didn't watch it but heard sanjin say he was 100% after the match. just like aleksa was earlier in the tournament

the difference between the breaks in the two matches is striking. maybe the ref in the sanjin-lechner match is a better racker / takes more time
 

DaWizard

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10 ball youth final hill-hill
 

jay helfert

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A few stats on today's semifinal matches:

Pehlivanovic defeated Lechner 10-8
- Successful breaks numbered 11. All 11 became B&Rs, 6 by Pehlivanovic and 5 by Lechner.​
- Dry breaks numbered 7. 6 of the 7 were run out by the non-breaker on his first, and only, visit.​
- So 17 of the 18 games ended in 1 inning. The other game ended on the breaker's second visit.​
- The only miss or foul by either player in the entire match was Lechner's miss on the 8-ball (in Game 16, leading 8-7) after bad position from his last solid.​

Van Boening defeated Szewczyk 10-9
- SVB was dry on 7 of 10 breaks, Szewczyk was dry or fouled on 7 of 9.​
- B&Rs numbered 1 -- by SVB.​
- Each player missed 4 shots (counting a couple of 2-ways as safeties).​
- SVB fouled once, Szewczyk twice (on 2 breaks).​

So it looks like Pehlivanovic has an easy path to the title tomorrow, right? ;)
And everything could flip today. What Shane (any player) needs to do before the match starts is practice his break! He needs to find the sweet spot on that table to break from. I will never forget watching Earl only practice his break shot before big 9-Ball matches in years gone by. Once he had his break dialed in the match was over before it started!
 
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jay helfert

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Jay, no, it wasn’t that tough. The shot I’m referring to that he missed on his final trip to the table was no harder than a spot shot except the cue ball was about 14 inches off the end rail.

That shot was about the same difficulty as the jacked up 5 ball shot Allison missed which cost her a trip to the finals.
With all due respect Chris, I think we may be talking about different shots.
 

jay helfert

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Does it strike anyone else as interesting that the women are playing Ten Ball and the men are playing Eight Ball here. That's kind of a joke imo. Shouldn't it be the other way around? I understand the politics/santioning involved in this, but it still makes an unusual contrast with the men playing the easier game.
 

CanadianGuy

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did Szewczyk have the option to pass the break back to Shane?

i think you have to do that and play those percentages,

of course you will look and feel super silly if it backfires but the odds were clearly in the favour of the non breaker
 

pt109

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Ah, the things I learn by posting on AZ. I usually watch poker just once a year, during the final table of the WSOP main event. I remembered hearing the term to "slow play it". Now I know what it means. My bad!
Where I come from, ‘slow playing’ is pondering , looking like you’re considering folding the final all in bet when you have the guaranteed winner…..considered bad form.
 

Rocket354

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did Szewczyk have the option to pass the break back to Shane?

i think you have to do that and play those percentages,

of course you will look and feel super silly if it backfires but the odds were clearly in the favour of the non breaker

While in retrospect that sounds like a reasonable option, I don't think anyone at that level can expect the break to continue as badly as it did. There's a sense of "I've just had a rough patch, but will turn it around." These guys have supreme confidence in their breaks, and for good reason. To give up after a handful of dry breaks would run counter to ever fiber of their being. Especially, to willingly hand the break to Sf'nVB.
 

Rocket354

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Where I come from, ‘slow playing’ is pondering , looking like you’re considering folding the final all in bet when you have the guaranteed winner…..considered bad form.
We always called that "slow rolling." Same thing when someone would look contemplatively at their opponent's revealed hand to give him the hope that he had won the pot, before turning over the winning hand.
 

sjm

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Does it strike anyone else as interesting that the women are playing Ten Ball and the men are playing Eight Ball here. That's kind of a joke imo. Shouldn't it be the other way around? I understand the politics/santioning involved in this, but it still makes an unusual contrast with the men playing the easier game.
Yes, it's very odd, although there is a men's World 10-ball in March in Las Vegas, so maybe it's not such a big deal. Then again, having the women play chess while the men play checkers does feel weird.

Just as odd are WPA rules changes in this generation that have made a) the already easy game of eight ball easier (no more "take what you make" and "ball in hand anywhere rather than in the kitchen after an opening scratch) and b) the already difficult game of ten ball harder ("call shot" and "ten ball last").

These are not the versions of professional eight and ten ball that I watched back in the day, and in each case, the changes made were unnecessary and have made each game, at least for this fan, worse. I wonder what changes are coming next. Maybe "choice of stripes or solids on every trip to the table" is coming soon.
 

Vahmurka

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As it has been rainy all day, I predict many breaks that are going to be, well, all of a sudden - dry. Srsly.

Unless it was table dependant. Sanjin vs Max was played on Table 1, SVB vs Szewczyk on Table 2. It is Table 1 today, so shall see.
 

Vahmurka

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Does it strike anyone else as interesting that the women are playing Ten Ball and the men are playing Eight Ball here. That's kind of a joke imo. Shouldn't it be the other way around? I understand the politics/santioning involved in this, but it still makes an unusual contrast with the men playing the easier game.
World 8-Ball was resurrected by Predator recently, so men are to play it annually. I could only hope women get their fair chance to have a world championship at 8-Ball as well. So far there were none, right?

And I strongly disagree about 8-Ball being called en easy game. It differs from rotation games, and end of story. There are no easy or hard (same as there are no easy shots on the pool table).
 
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