I played today 5 hours with Z2 shaft and TOI system. And I want to say that I like how that shaft plays. You don't have to put much power in your stroke.
Just my 2 cents worth. If you are playing an intentional deflection, then I would think that a low deflection shaft would be more accurate.
Cj, what is a visual shift and how does one do a visual shift?
Your vision, when down on the cue ball is directly aligned to the center of the tip and the spot you're hitting on the cue ball (ideally). When you shift to the inside of the cue ball {TOI} with your tip, you also allow your eyes to shift slightly as well to stay aligned to the center of the tip. Some players use the inside of the shaft to do this and it's a personal choice as far as I'm concerned. The important thing is to visually be aligned to a specific point.
I find it VERY useful to connect my eyes and tip together for an instant BEFORE getting down on the cueball/shot then you are just re establishing your eye/tip connection, rather then doing it for the first time (after you're down on the shot). This may not sound like a big "tip," however for some players it makes a huge difference. 'The Game is the Teacher'
Imo very important and useful "big tip"
How stan shuffett likes to say:
"Your eyes lead and the body will follow"
This is imo absolutley necessary. Will also strengthen your confidence and should be burned in into everybody s psr.
Have a smooth stroke
Ingo
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The most important thing about pool is hitting the cue ball precisely, no matter what system/technique you use.
'The Game is the Teacher'
On that topic, I have played more pool in the past 3-4 weeks since I been in Germany than I have since last summer and just the other night did I start to hit the CB where I intended to. and SURPRISE the pockets got real big all of a sudden, the CB was going where i wanted it to, if i had a gap i needed to go between i was going right between it.
It just clicked, felt nice.
practice practice practice
hope your well buddy,
ill ring your phone in a week or so,
best
eric:smile::smile:
wow I just got done watching CJ Wiley of TOI. He make it so simple and easy. I started doing it at pool hall and I tell you what.......when I was aiming center to center then just a half a tip to right......the ball went right into pocket. it amaze me cause before I shot it it look like it wrong but like CJ Wiley say.....it going to slightly move the cue ball at the exact point. I am amaze and would consider TOI instead of Pro 1. Thanks to CJ Wiley for making a video that is so understandable and really go into detail to detail cause other instructor they says this and that but they leave out the middle part and that what make so confusing to local players who wanna be at advance level or higher. No, CJ Wiley went all the way through step by step and actually made it understandable and in your mind know what he saying and picturing to understand it and do it when practicing. Again Thanks to CJ Wiley you did a wonderful job on the video..
wow I just got done watching CJ Wiley of TOI. He make it so simple and easy. I started doing it at pool hall and I tell you what.......when I was aiming center to center then just a half a tip to right......the ball went right into pocket. it amaze me cause before I shot it it look like it wrong but like CJ Wiley say.....it going to slightly move the cue ball at the exact point. I am amaze and would consider TOI instead of Pro 1. Thanks to CJ Wiley for making a video that is so understandable and really go into detail to detail cause other instructor they says this and that but they leave out the middle part and that what make so confusing to local players who wanna be at advance level or higher. No, CJ Wiley went all the way through step by step and actually made it understandable and in your mind know what he saying and picturing to understand it and do it when practicing. Again Thanks to CJ Wiley you did a wonderful job on the video..
I LINE UP my body CTC or CTE and create the angle to the inside of the pocket off that "reference point" and on the cue ball it's about an less than a tip for me unless I'm spinning the cue ball.
I've been reading up on this TOI aiming as a good player I know uses it for long, near straight-in shots. So that got me interested. I haven't bought the DVD yet, so in the meantime have been reading whatever I can find in the forum. This idea of TOI-1 and TOI-2 keeps coming up and I wonder if someone can clue me in on the bold section above.
I understand the idea of lining up CTC or CTE and creating the angle with a parallel inside hit. I don't understand what it means on the one hand to line up CTC but then on the other hand "aim for" (for lack of a better term) the fat side (or inside) of the pocket. All I'm thinking right now is aim CTC, throw some inside parallel on the cue ball and adjust the amount of inside as necessary to split the pocket. Where does "aiming" for the inside of the pocket come in?
Also, what is the purpose of TOI-1 if you have to aim for the inside of the pocket conventionally, only to throw it a little over to center with a little inside? Why not just aim for the center without TOI instead of aiming fat with TOI.
I realize I may be asking things that are covered in the DVD.
Thanks.
Hi Dan,
I'll give it a try.
CJ does not really like TOI 1 & 2 but he did sort of give two explantions.
TOI 1 was before he told us about the CTC & CTE alignments. The explanation was to 'aim' to the full hit side of the pocket & then move the tip the 'touch of inside' to make the CB squirt out & add cut to the shot so that the OB goes into the center of the pocket.
If you hit the center of the cb by mistake the ball goes into the full hit side of the pocket. If you hit the cue ball more than intended to the inside then the ball goes into the thin cut side of the pocket. This is the 3 part pocket system. It gives you a margin of error at the cue ball.
Later on CJ told about the CTC & CTE alignment. He still uses the 3 part system but I think it is more about acelleration calibration in that if he does not accelerate properly the ball will goes into the full hit side & if he over does it the ball will go into the thin hit side & when it's right the ball goes into the center of the pocket.
When I first stepped up to the CTC & CTE system I was having trouble with the CTE shot as I was not getting enough cut on some shots. CJ question if I was truely parallel & suggested moving the butt first & then the tip just the touch. It worked.
I hope something in there helps.
Regards & Best Wishes,
Rick
Thanks very much, Rick. The more I keep reading this thread the longer it seems to get!
Let me comment about the bold section above first -- As far as margin for error, couldn't I say the same thing as follows: Aim for the center of the pocket with no english. If I accidentally hit outside english the ball will go in the fat side of the pocket. If I accidentally hit a little inside, it will go to the thin side. I don't see any difference between this and your description of the margin for error.
I'm still confused about the CTC stuff. Originally, and on CJ's 15 ball rotation video (which is terrific), it appears that we are supposed to get down on the shot with the cue lined up CTC AND aiming at the object ball center, and then (or as you get down) shift parallel to create the angle with squirt. But now it seems like we're supposed to just aim for the fat side of the pocket and then use a little inside. Which is it, or is it somehow both? I saw CJ's explanation on page 7 I think, but it unfortunately isn't very clear.
It piqued my interest because here's how I aim: I start out looking at every shot standing up eyeing the CTC lineup. (I never look at a CTE lineup.) As I get down on the shot I move into the position necessary to pocket the ball. I'm not sure why I do that and maybe I don't need to, but maybe it helps me feel the correct angle. I've played long enough that I don't aim anything - I just know the right angle to get down on. The trick is to execute the stroke properly at any speed needed. Anyway, I saw CJ mention something that seemed vaguely similar, but I don't know.
You eye the shot from standing up as CTC/CTE but get down on the shot in the angle necessary to hit it fat, and then use inside?
answers are in my opinion above in bold and that does not mean they are correct![]()
I've been reading up on this TOI aiming as a good player I know uses it for long, near straight-in shots. So that got me interested. I haven't bought the DVD yet, so in the meantime have been reading whatever I can find in the forum. This idea of TOI-1 and TOI-2 keeps coming up and I wonder if someone can clue me in on the bold section above.
I understand the idea of lining up CTC or CTE and creating the angle with a parallel inside hit. I don't understand what it means on the one hand to line up CTC but then on the other hand "aim for" (for lack of a better term) the fat side (or inside) of the pocket. All I'm thinking right now is aim CTC, throw some inside parallel on the cue ball and adjust the amount of inside as necessary to split the pocket. Where does "aiming" for the inside of the pocket come in?
Also, what is the purpose of TOI-1 if you have to aim for the inside of the pocket conventionally, only to throw it a little over to center with a little inside? Why not just aim for the center without TOI instead of aiming fat with TOI.
I realize I may be asking things that are covered in the DVD.
Thanks.