Proofs of the EXACTNESS of Pivot Systems

I now totally understand how stan goes from the 2 visuals right to the pre pivot without using either line to guide him to right or left pivot position. I figured it out last night and it makes it so easy to go right into pro1 naturally and had I had to stop myself from automatically going into pro1 until i mastered the visuals and understood them .

I hold that you only need to position your stance based only on the secondary aim line.

Can you describe your epiphany?

Thanks.:thumbup:
 
Dr Dave has become very knowledgeable and has done it very quickly on this system :)

Dr. Doolittle has become very knowledgeable through literary theft!! Bottom line!! Dr. Doolittle equals ASSMOSIS!! Google it as aforementioned!!
 
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Thanks Paul!

Dr. Doolittle has become very knowledgeable through literary theft!! Bottom line!! Dr. Doolittle equals ASSMOSIS!! Google it as formentioned!!

According to the Urban Dictionary.. Funny stuff Paul!


1. Assmosis
The process by which some people seem to absorb success and advancement by kissing up to the boss.
"He got VP via assmosis."

By the way Paul, the hint you gave me has given me success for the first time with CTE.. So simple yet I was not getting it. Thanks for the help my friend!
 
According to the Urban Dictionary.. Funny stuff Paul!


1. Assmosis
The process by which some people seem to absorb success and advancement by kissing up to the boss.
"He got VP via assmosis."

By the way Paul, the hint you gave me has given me success for the first time with CTE.. So simple yet I was not getting it. Thanks for the help my friend!

Well, if you're not going to publish Paul's little secret, at least have the decency to PM me with it. (with Paul's permission of course).

Can't believe you would dangle a carrot like that. :(
 
hey lamas
well I have been thinking about why didn't stan clearly show where the cue alignment is pre pivot on the dvd. I had a 4 hour drive and i downloaded the dvd onto my iphone when i first received the dvd and i decided to watch, but mainly listen to it during the drive.

As im listening to it, i realized he is telling you to where to place your cue! I also realized what he meant when he says, its a visual system. I never really paid attention to this before or understood this also.

So during this drive i realized that the most important thing to focus on, is the 2 lines and lock them in visually and then just move forward to a half tip offset position and if you did the proper visuals on the 2 lines, you are gtg! I realized it was actually that simple and that's why stan does not get into detail about cue position other than its a half tip offset left or right. It doesn't matter where the cue lines up, only that you just go from the 2 aim line visual lock, straight to a half tip offset position left or right, just like Stan shows on the dvd. So the next day i had to play pool in a league and i did the whole off to the side position and get a visual on the 2 lines and i went straight to the half tip offset position without caring where my cue was other than a half tip offset right or left and the it worked and it also simplified the system for me even more and noticed it made it a lot easier shooting of the rail also :)
 
champ2107,
Mike,
Thanks for the heads up. I hold that the secondary edge of CB to the points on the OB is key, for it is moving off of the CTE line that gets the body and cue in line for the correct location for the 1/2 tip offset.

Maybe I need to cross my eyes to visualize the two converging lines....just me sayin.:)

The system still works with just the secondary aim lines (like in my diagrams), but I may have different cut angles than you for we may visualize differently.

Either way, you must keep the eyes focused consistently, two lines for you and one for me.:thumbup:
 
champ2107,
Mike,
Thanks for the heads up. I hold that the secondary edge of CB to the points on the OB is key, for it is moving off of the CTE line that gets the body and cue in line for the correct location for the 1/2 tip offset.

Maybe I need to cross my eyes to visualize the two converging lines....just me sayin.:)

The system still works with just the secondary aim lines (like in my diagrams), but I may have different cut angles than you for we may visualize differently.

Either way, you must keep the eyes focused consistently, two lines for you and one for me.:thumbup:

i went from focusing mostly on one line and cue placement, too now focusing on both lines and not worrying about cue placement other than a half tip offset right or left and i pretty sure thats what stan is teaching?

I am about to upload an interesting vid now.
 
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I think knowing and shooting cte before without the reference points has helped me pick this up quick but also has given me a lil trouble also, old habits :( Now i just have to get a better understanding of the very thick cut and medium thin cut from dr daves table and i will be really gtg! :)
 
champ2107:
It doesn't matter where the cue lines up, only that you just go from the 2 aim line visual lock, straight to a half tip offset position left or right
The more you guys say about this stuff the less sense you make. "Pivoting" after a "half tip offset" from an unknown (and unimportant!) cue position = aiming by feel. Just get over it.

pj
chgo
 
According to the Urban Dictionary.. Funny stuff Paul!


1. Assmosis
The process by which some people seem to absorb success and advancement by kissing up to the boss.
"He got VP via assmosis."

By the way Paul, the hint you gave me has given me success for the first time with CTE.. So simple yet I was not getting it. Thanks for the help my friend!

You're welcome Joey!!
 
The more you guys say about this stuff the less sense you make. "Pivoting" after a "half tip offset" from an unknown (and unimportant!) cue position = aiming by feel. Just get over it.

pj
chgo

Your not paying attention Pj and you still dont understand it yet, but you will soon :) are you able to pick up both lines yet behind the ball Pj, like i have shown in that picture from post 198?
 
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... are you able to pick up both lines yet behind the ball Pj, like i have shown in that picture from post 198?

Below is a portion of that photograph. Are the two lines in red the correct ones?
 

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champ2107:
Your not paying attention Pj and you still dont understand it yet, but you will soon
Champ, I'm paying attention to things you're obviously not even aware of.

are you able to pick up both lines yet behind the ball Pj, like i have shown in that picture from post 198?
I'm able to "pick up" those lines as you think you see them and as they actually are - which are two distinctly different things. Those lines aren't telling you where to position your eyes and your eye position isn't telling you where to place your cue and "pivoting" your cue isn't telling you where to aim. You're telling yourself these things because you don't believe in your own ability to aim by feel.

The system is helping you see the shots in a consistent way, and that's helping you aim more consistently by feel. That's good, so thinking something else is happening probably isn't the end of the world - but I want to point out the reality as we go along for the benefit of other readers.

pj
chgo
 
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... and the math showed that it is accurate to within +- 1/8" of center, you would still say "see, the math proves it's not exact".
Well, of course. If the system has any degree of error (like you said for example +- 1/8"), how can you say the system is "exact"? Isn't that precisely what this thread is investigating?
 
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