Proposing a local club to open up a table

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leorapture

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Hello everyone!

For me, the closest pool hall is roughly 20 miles away, so I'm exploring other options. My first thought involves a local club that I'm affiliated with. They have a single, coin operated table in their establishment. I'm planning to approach this club and ask if they'd be willing to open up their table to me during select hours, more than likely during low traffic times.

What makes me think this idea is worth exploring is that I remember the chairman of the board mentioning that the club was not making a lot of money. What I am offering them is a chance to make a little extra income.

Do you think this something like this will be considered? What are other some relevant points I can make when arguing my case? What could be considered a fair offer in regards to pricing for something like this?

The table is rarely occupied. This seems like it would be a win/win for me and the club :) Agreed, no?
 
The standard answer is "it never hurts to ask". Maybe they will see that a few bucks is better than none.
 
Otoh, people who see you playing with the door open see you getting a freebie...so

Wheres mines? I want my free pool too.
 
just make an offer consistent with the other pool hall.

If they charge, say $10 per hour, offer the closer place $8 or $9 per hour.
 
My local bar will open table for 5$ an hr, 2.50 for him 2.50 for his vender, Buy drinks and food!!!!!!!! That always helps
 
Table

You say club..... you mean strip club/gentlemen club/topless club?
Or a club where a membership is required for admission?

I think you should contact management or the board of directors for the " club"





Rob.M
 
ShakesSea said:
Try to show up when a manager is there, usually mid afternoon, if they're open, or otherwise shortly after opening. Sometime when they aren't too busy to consider an unusual request. If the manager says no, show up when they might not be there and ask an employee after purchasing a drink and tipping decently.
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Huh? Trick them into it?

That's a pretty shitty thing to advise one to attempt.
 
leorapture said:
...The table is rarely occupied. ...
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Is there any obvious reason why that's the case? Is the equipment poorly maintained? Is there any sort of promotion by the club like leagues or ladders? Is the table too expensive?
 
ShakesSea said:
I don't think I suggested any trickery.
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Maybe i misread, but didnt you suggest he ask the manager and if that didn work, return at a time when manager not present...asking other staff for something he was already told he could not have?

Sounds like elementary-age trickery to me.

And runs the chance of getting him barred too.

Shopping for answers.
 
This club is not a strip club, more like a private club that requires membership. The table is not poorly maintained at all. It might actually be one of the better tables in town. I suspect that it's vacant quite often because it's an older crowd most of the time (50+). Price wise, it's a buck a game, but that's about average around here.

And regarding the whole "someone might see me getting a freebie and want one too" comment, I plan to suggest that they make this a thing, allowing people to rent the table by the hour. So, if that person wants in on the action, he can reserve his own hour. I'm thinking of a nice system to suggest to make that work, and be fair. In my opinion, a smart management team should see the potential profit from this, and for a club not taking in much cash, why not jump on easy money. Someone mentioned a vender getting a portion of the money. I assume that would be the case only if they are renting the table and do not own it outright, correct?
 
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ShakesSea said:
If the manager says no, show up when they might not be there and ask an employee after purchasing a drink and tipping decently.


I think that's a pretty minor offense. Ask one person and if they say no, ask another. One is more empowered to act on their own discretion than the other but both have some ability to exercise their discretion.
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If Dad says no, I'll buy Mom some flowers, then ask her...
 
realkingcobra said:
I just love how people start a thr3ad asking a question, get responses....then never post again....LOL
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Whoa there, snake dude. Maybe the OP was just waiting on a few more replies to add up before coming back on the thread. Now I see that a mere 18 1/2 hours after his OP that he has responded. Not too bad.

Hell, everybody's not like a lot of us here on AZB....they have normal lives and don't spend half their waking hours on here trying to sort through the BS.

Maniac
 
Open a Pool Room

The obvious answer here is you need to rent a space and open a pool room. That will give you plenty of insight into what you're asking for.


leorapture said:
Hello everyone!

For me, the closest pool hall is roughly 20 miles away, so I'm exploring other options. My first thought involves a local club that I'm affiliated with. They have a single, coin operated table in their establishment. I'm planning to approach this club and ask if they'd be willing to open up their table to me during select hours, more than likely during low traffic times.

What makes me think this idea is worth exploring is that I remember the chairman of the board mentioning that the club was not making a lot of money. What I am offering them is a chance to make a little extra income.

Do you think this something like this will be considered? What are other some relevant points I can make when arguing my case? What could be considered a fair offer in regards to pricing for something like this?

The table is rarely occupied. This seems like it would be a win/win for me and the club :) Agreed, no?
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In private clubs like the Elks, Eagles, VFW that have coin operated pool tables, because of the lower coin income compared to most bars, all the clubs I've ever worked in owned their own pool tables. First off, you're assuming the club can keep track of your hourly rental offer in order to collect the fee's when you're done. Second, in private clubs, anything dealing with money is controlled by a board of directors, not just the manager. Third, you may see it as a good offer to make the club some money while they may see it as more hassle than it's worth....and tell you they have no problem in having you play on their pool table....go a head and stick your dollar in the coin chute.
By the way, are you ALREADY a member of this club you're talking about?
 
realkingcobra said:
In private clubs like the Elks, Eagles, VFW that have coin operated pool tables, because of the lower coin income compared to most bars, all the clubs I've ever worked in owned their own pool tables. First off, you're assuming the club can keep track of your hourly rental offer in order to collect the fee's when you're done. Second, in private clubs, anything dealing with money is controlled by a board of directors, not just the manager. Third, you may see it as a good offer to make the club some money while they may see it as more hassle than it's worth....and tell you they have no problem in having you play on their pool table....go a head and stick your dollar in the coin chute.
By the way, are you ALREADY a member of this club you're talking about?
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Yes, I'm currently a member. To address your point, it wouldn't take much to keep track of things. There could be a sign-in sheet behind the bar with timestamps, and you give them your ID while you play. After some simple arithmetic, the bartender can log the hours at the end of the night. You pay your fees at the beginning of each week, or you can't sign up for new time. Hell, I might even volunteer to manage this operation. I don't know, but I think that even if they had to put a little work into it, it would still be profitable. They want ideas for money-making, I'm giving them one. Also, I'm sure that I'm not the only person in town that would appreciate something like this. If the word got around that this establishment was the only place in town you could rent a table, it could boost memberships in the process. What am I missing here?
 
[/QUOTE] What am I missing here?[/QUOTE]

How many other pool tables are there in town? What's stopping anyone else from renting their bar tables by the hour? And believe it or not, 1 pool table does not have the customer draw that 2 or more tables have. Most private clubs have certain days they make their income, mostly Fri/Sat nights, and they all struggle for find other events to promote to try and draw in customers. If they really wanted to get that one pool table making money, they'd promote joining the local pool leagues, but then they'd have to let non-members in, which would change their "club" status to a public establishment which in turn effects their non-profit status if they're a non-profit organization.
 
ShakesSea said:
I'll excuse myself from this thread since my behavior is apparently despicable.
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I am sure you are despicable, but this thread does not provide evidenc of it!

You are just putting people in awkward positions for your own benefit.

While each employee may make d ecisions that affect the business, going against management's direction is generally a bad thing for an employee.
 
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