Purpose Built Arena

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If you could build a space that was purpose built to provide the most ideal seating configuration for spectators what would it be? Here are my thoughts: 1. the first row of seating would be high enough for ideal viewing. Being on floor level isn’t good for seeing the table. 2. Each successive row would be high enough so you do not have to look over or around the next row which would call for a steeper layout for seats. 3. The lights would have to be high enough to not obstruct folks sitting high up. 4. The overall number of good seats would be limited as the playing surface is not big enough to allow easy viewing further back.

Any other thoughts?
 
mnorwood said:
If you could build a space that was purpose built to provide the most ideal seating configuration for spectators what would it be? Here are my thoughts: 1. the first row of seating would be high enough for ideal viewing. Being on floor level isn’t good for seeing the table. 2. Each successive row would be high enough so you do not have to look over or around the next row which would call for a steeper layout for seats. 3. The lights would have to be high enough to not obstruct folks sitting high up. 4. The overall number of good seats would be limited as the playing surface is not big enough to allow easy viewing further back.

Any other thoughts?
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I’m thinking the British House of Commons.

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Just add a 2nd floor like the DCC. The lights need to be high enough for the balcony seats to see the entire playing part of the arena. A majority of seats need to have high back rests
 
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mnorwood said:
If you could build a space that was purpose built to provide the most ideal seating configuration for spectators what would it be? Here are my thoughts: 1. the first row of seating would be high enough for ideal viewing. Being on floor level isn’t good for seeing the table. 2. Each successive row would be high enough so you do not have to look over or around the next row which would call for a steeper layout for seats. 3. The lights would have to be high enough to not obstruct folks sitting high up. 4. The overall number of good seats would be limited as the playing surface is not big enough to allow easy viewing further back.

Any other thoughts?
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Most important question – how many tables is this elevated arena able to hold with ample room between tables (8’ minimum) to be able to conduct numerous matches at one time?

I would guess at least 4 and possibly 8, with the elevated seating built in such a way so that the arena could be compacted to 4, 2 or even 1 single centered table for the semi finals and finals.
 
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The best viewing situations I've seen had balconies. In all of those -- three different ones -- the main seating was too low.

I designed the seating for three Las Vegas events. The seats were as close as possible to the tables. The VIP seats (front row) were raised 18 inches and had "school tables" in front of them. The bleachers were not the standard low-rise aluminum crap. They were the constructed pipe and board kind with a fairly steep slope. The first row was elevated enough to see over the VIPs. Here is a video showing what that looked like:


If this was done on 3 sides, you could have at least 600 spectators with good views. The fourth side (end) is for the TV production.

A balcony could be added but the seats would have to be pretty steep to get more than two rows.

In a permanent installation, the seats could be theater seats. I've seen a couple of pool room arenas with those.
 
I don't know the answer, but missing information is for 1 table or a bunch of tables? How big is the space? How many people do you want to fit.
 
Since we are in fantasy land:

Tables stacked on top of each other like a Carvana car tower. Slate and cloth made of glass. Spectators surrounding the tables, also above and below them. Spectators can see through the tables to see other matches simultaneously.
 
iusedtoberich said:
Since we are in fantasy land:

Tables stacked on top of each other like a Carvana car tower. Slate and cloth made of glass. Spectators surrounding the tables, also above and below them. Spectators can see through the tables to see other matches simultaneously.
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I had no idea you lsd every day!
 
At the 1993 Los Angeles Open 9-Ball Championship we built side by side arenas, each one with four tables inside. All four sides of each arena had eleven row high bleachers with padded seating, three steps up to get to the first row. Every seat in each arena was a good one and you could watch matches on all four tables at once. Each arena sat 750 people so 1,500 was a full house, standing room only. We filled both arenas on Friday and Saturday! Only used one arena on Sunday for the final matches. We did a very healthy live gate and I realized then that promoting pool tournaments could be made profitable. Don Mackey was threatened by my success and within two years he had convinced the top pros not to play in my tournaments (even though we had paid out $140,000 and $160,000 in two events so far) and that was the end of my pro pool promoting on that level. I did continue to do smaller events and some great bar table tournaments with good prize money.
 
I think many of the production groups do a great job. This is how i would like to see it. Really similar to Mosconi arena, but with 2 tables.
- VIP floor seating
- Stadium spectator seating
- Tall sound barrier between tables, removed for late stages so both sides can see the live table.
- Greyed thin rectangles would be TVs/projectors above the arena showing split overhead and live camera
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jay helfert said:
At the 1993 Los Angeles Open 9-Ball Championship we built side by side arenas, each one with four tables inside. All four sides of each arena had eleven row high bleachers with padded seating, three steps up to get to the first row. Every seat in each arena was a good one and you could watch matches on all four tables at once. Each arena sat 750 people so 1,500 was a full house, standing room only. We filled both arenas on Friday and Saturday! Only used one arena on Sunday for the final matches. We did a very healthy live gate and I realized then that promoting pool tournaments could be made profitable. Don Mackey was threatened by my success and within two years he had convinced the top pros not to play in my tournaments (even though we had paid out $140,000 and $160,000 in two events so far) and that was the end of my pro pool promoting on that level. I did continue to do smaller events and some great bar table tournaments with good prize money.
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I confess I still hold a grudge against Mackey and the players.
 
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