Push to You---whats the shot

[Perk]

Thanks for the ideas everyone. I contemplated a couple of the safety's mentioned. I did not consider the cut as the cue ball would of had alot of movement after the fact. I attempted to bank the one thinking it was almost a two way shot. However because I was thinking about trying to hold the one I hit it pretty poor and sold out anyway.

 

[CarlB]

lots of options

depending on my opponents strengths/weaknesses, table, etc...

Carl

Edit: The reverse bank might be hard to hold the cue to the side rail...but you could just change to top-left (more left) lag the 1 to the pocket..and the cue should stop center table.

Carl

 

[stumpie71]

Cut the 1 to the left short rail first. My main goal is sticking the cb near the opposite short rail below the 9. Gives me a very large margin of error for the cb.

 

[Neil]

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[Black-Balled]

No way the 1 can be cut in the corner and the 2/3 contacted by CB.

Not sure what I'd do, depends on how cheeky I am feeling when I get up to bat.

If I am shy then I am shooting frank's safe. If I am bold then I am cutting it in.

 

[Black-Balled]

That is a pile of bull. No pro in a match that matters is playing either the bank or the backcut into the corner. They are playing safe all day long, and that is a funny thing because they shoot the cut and the bank better then anyone on this thread and STILL know neither are the percentage shot.

Probably true...

 

[Neil]

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[Black-Balled]

Where are you getting that someone said it could be??

cut the 1 into the corner, with the cue perhaps making the three for you.

Personally, rather than try to cut the one in the near left corner and move the three, ...

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[Mike Templeton]

i would play it the way dabarbr drew it up speed is critical

Me too..................

 

[justadub]

And if anyone thinks I have a clue.... they are in trouble.

My only thoughts about cutting the one with the cue goign towards the 2/3 is in the event of a miss on the one. I can see that if you make the one the cb doesn't get the 2/3.

And I suck.

 

[pulzcul]

After reading all the suggestions I'm gonna give it back and run out after he screws it up!.

 

[SpinDoctor]

I play it straight back into the top left corner and draw the cueball to the side rail and back out for the 2. Returning that shot is something that I would NEVER do.

 

[master9baller]

i would play it the way dabarbr drew it up speed is critical

I'm with these two. Unless I'm on the hill or need to catchup I might go for the long bank opposite the CB to be on the 2 ball next. Sometimes you gotta just shoot.

 

[8pack]

Actually things that might determine the shot to chose would be if your gambling,what the score is how good does your opponent play and what your skill level is.
But in a serious match with 2 good players i still feel there going two play it safe.

 

[alstl]

I would play a two way shot, banking it back to the pocket where the cue ball is. Good chance of leaving your opponent safe if you miss and you have shape on the two if you make it.

 

[Neil]

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[macguy]

After reading all the suggestions I'm gonna give it back and run out after he screws it up!.

The problem with that is, 1. he may make it and get out. 2. he may play a safe on you leaving you worse. 3. he may miss and leave you worse then the shot you are looking at now. Letting him shoot you are taking way the worst of it and just hoping he will screw up. I don't like the odds. Waiting to win on someone eases mistakes it not good. It's best to make things happen yourself and make your opponent irrelevant. You can't play winning pool based on the hope your opponent will screw up. One of the things you discover when you play champions, is they don't care much about you, they control the game themselves. Another thing you discover when playing champions, the more conservative you play the more likely you are to lose. The more turns you give your opponent at the table the more likely you are to lose.

The only reason you ever play safe is to try to beat you opponent to a shot. In the case of this example in this thread, you have a fine playable shot, as good of a shot as you may hope to see. You can't base your play on praying for hangers. I would love 1, for my opponent to miss or screw up period and 2, have a shot as good as this to start with. I am not discussing so much this shot as a theory and philosophy of play that can make someone a winner. A good philosophy of play can be what it takes to gets a player to the next level. As with many things there is not always a true right or wrong and one learns what works best for them, but you always have to know why you are doing what you are doing. That is where theory come in.

 

[macguy]

That is a pile of bull. No pro in a match that matters is playing either the bank or the backcut into the corner. They are playing safe all day long, and that is a funny thing because they shoot the cut and the bank better then anyone on this thread and STILL know neither are the percentage shot.

I am basing my opinion on what I see in the picture. That is not to say if you moved the object ball a few inches I would say different but the shot in the picture shot is fine and with the 2 ball almost hanging the game is over.

 

[Z3R0]

That is a pile of bull. No pro in a match that matters is playing either the bank or the backcut into the corner. They are playing safe all day long, and that is a funny thing because they shoot the cut and the bank better then anyone on this thread and STILL know neither are the percentage shot.

I've yet to see a pro play the match safe during 9 ball. Not to say that some people don't, but it's not as if a bank or cut are impossible or even difficult in this situation. The question, in my opinion, comes down to which gives the better leave.

Every 9 ball game I've played and watched is quick and to the point. If you have a shot, take it and run. If you don't, find one, and if you can't, give your opponent the worst possible leave you can manage.

 

[Celtic]

I've yet to see a pro play the match safe during 9 ball. Not to say that some people don't, but it's not as if a bank or cut are impossible or even difficult in this situation.

Look at the photos of the table setup that Afgan posted on this thread and you are going to try and tell me that the cut is not even difficult? Yeah right... It is extremely thin as shown and it lets the cueball go completely on an extremely thin cut and now you are messing with hitting any of the balls downtable and possibly hooking yourself. The backcut bank is "makeable" but it is by no means easy, especially on a 9-foot diamond which you are probably playing the game on. You might get the lucky safe off the bank, but if it horns the wrong way you might also sell out the runout.

As I said virtually all pros would play the safe here because they are actually favorites to get the hook and almost a sure thing to not leave the runout. And if the pros would do that with their shooting skill at both cuts and banks then the amature that shoots considerably worse might want to rethink how they play that shot.