John,
You are certainly a liar simply because you are lying when you call me one. I'm not an expert on a lot of things. However I do read the news and whatever catches my interest so I am far from totally ignorant about many things I'm not an expert on. The crappy leather makes news besides the fact I have seen it first hand. The safety issues in the chinese leather tanneries makes news. The safety issues from the chemicals still in the leather makes news. I read the news! Hard for you to grasp?
I see, you read it in the news.............so again you make a comment no one can prove. Same as you always do.
Likewise, I know what the chinese factory workers were making a year or two ago because it made news here in the US that they were working long hours six or seven days a week supplying components for US carmakers and making between 90 and 95 cents an hour. I think it was 92 cents but I'll admit I'm working from memory. Likewise I know that some workers in the mideast were making even less because somebody claimed that they got a 30% pay raise like it was a big deal. They got a thirty percent pay raise that was considerably less than thirty cents. How do I know these things? IT WAS IN THE NEWS!!
Again with the news? So in a country with 1.4 billion people you KNOW how every factory is run and what every employee of those factories make?
AS I SAID JOHN THERE IS A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING GENERALLY INFORMED AND BEING AN EXPERT. THERE IS ALSO A DIFFERENCE BETWEEN BEING INFORMED AND GOING THROUGH LIFE WITH YOUR HEAD UP YOUR ASS! THIS WHOLE PISSING CONTEST STARTED BECAUSE YOU WHO SUPPOSEDLY WORK WITH LEATHER EVERY DAY AND HAVE MADE A CAREER OUT OF IT ARE EMBARRASSED BECAUSE YOU HAD NO CLUE HOW THICK A COW HIDE WAS AND MADE A MORONIC STATEMENT WHEN YOU WERE PRETENDING TO BE AN EXPERT!!
Now you are yelling. I already told you that I am not an expert on leather. I am an expert in putting it together. I already told you that I spoke on the thickness of leather off the cow because I read it somewhere (or thought I did) You know, not unlike you reading "the news" and accepting it as fact.
I DON'T CONSIDER MYSELF TO KNOW MUCH AT ALL ABOUT LEATHER BUT IT IS OBVIOUS THAT AS UNINFORMED AS I AM I KNOW THINGS ABOUT IT YOU DON'T AFTER WORKING WITH IT FOR YEARS. THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME A KNOW IT ALL, IT JUST SHOWS YOUR IGNORANCE.
Smokey already corrected both of us. He actually knows leather from cow to shoe.
In many areas I consider myself having little knowledge I still have far more knowledge than you do. That isn't saying anything impressive about me, only how willfully ignorant you are! The fact that you are hopelessly uninformed doesn't make those that aren't in as sad of shape know it alls.
You are the quintessential jack-of-all-trades when one only reads what you write on AZB. Lucky for you none of it can be proven without some effort and investigation. You get to pretend to be whoever you want to be on any subject. Between your proclivity to lie (my opinion) and google you can remake yourself every day.
Sorry for the delay explaining how foolish you are. I've been a bit busy dealing with flood waters, tornados, and a flea bitten hound I rescued from flood waters. The hound needed shelter from the still falling rain and the stray dog was much more important to me than you are.
awww, you are such a kind person.....clap clap clap...........amazing......should we get out our charity yardsticks now and measure them to see who is the better person.
Feel free to continue your ranting. While you are at it though how about trying to disprove what I say about the factory workers pay or the issues with leather quality and chemicals? You know, some facts to back up your ranting, some proof that I am lying. I'll be waiting, and waiting, and waiting. You don't have a snowball's chance in hell of backing up your claims I am lying because we both know I am not.
What sort of facts do you want? Testimony from industry people who have been there? Pictures? Chemical testing? A documentary by Michael Moore? What would you like to see?
Maybe you could spend some time on Google and come up with some stories about these Chinese tanneries to back up your claims.
Go find the stories you read or heard on the "news". Given your self-proclaimed expertise as an engineer/researcher/inventor/photographer/pool hustler/intellectual property expert/world class gun shooter/amazing race car driver/ceo of a fortune 50 company/rescuer of strays.....and now cowboy it should be an easy exercise for you after you have deloused the stray dog. Hell you can probably do both at the same time. Forgive me if I missed something you excelled at, it's very difficult to keep up with all you have done.
Once you find the stories I will address them. Until then I will consider your "memory" to in fabrication mode.