Ok, I will be raffling off a free case at
www.poolcuemarket.com to pay for my sins because I can let this guy come with this BS.
Well you tried. Didn't see any "news" stories but you did manage to find some stuff so let's discuss what you found.
These gloves were manufacturered in
TAIWAN, not China. Different country. Doesn't mean they are dangerous either, only that Germany didn't like a chemical in the leather. Read the story Hu and don't misquote it.
Leaving aside the fact that you apparently DELIBERATELY changed the country where the gloves were made, how many leather gloves do you think are made in China each year? Hundreds of millions of pairs. So if there were an epidemic of "bad" leather then you should find more than this one vague story buried on a leather blog.
Did you even bother to read this report? Aside from this being something that you would NOT see in a "news" article this report is basically a slide show intended to be used in a lecture given by a CHINESE person on how Chinese companies can eliminate the use of a chemical compound deemed to be unsafe. The report has NOTHING to do with the leather industry specifically and is intended as a GENERAL reference about the chemical compound PFOS. Next time try actually READING what you reference.
Again, do you BOTHER to ever read what you reference??????
I do which is why I found out that the problem was not the leather but instead some packaging intended to combat mold during transport.
"After investigation, it was found that the couches were packed with sachets containing dimethly fumarate (DMF), an antifungal agent intended to prevent the leather from getting moldy during storage and shipment from China. The chemical evaporates, penetrating the leather and can transfer to clothing and skin."
and
"We wonder if the problem has worked its way into the North American market since much of our furniture is imported from China.
I asked the U.S. Consumer Product Safety Commission if they had received consumer complaints about leather sofas, but they were not aware of any problems"
So Hu, how many leather couches and chairs do you think are imported into the USA yearly from China? Millions of pieces. Where is your proof that the leather is dangerous????
Huh, abundantly made??? Your point was not made at all. After hours of looking this is all you found? Gloves that were made in
TAIWAN that were recalled in Germany and couches packed with the wrong packing material which were found in Britain. This is your bombshell expose??? Don't add investigative reporter to your list of accomplishments. You are a failure so far.
Well at least you found ONE story that is close to what you said. Do you have any idea how many millions of factories there are in China? Let's assume that the story reported by this group (not the NEWS) is true, which it might not be, but let's assume it's true.....it's just one factory and not all of them. If the conditions were that bad then the workers would have left.
People in China are not slaves, they come and go as they please. All factories which do not cater to the workers face high turnover constantly. This report noted that they are aware of five injuries in five years. Not dozens, not hundreds, but FIVE - out of millions of operations performed on the machinery they could only uncover five incidents.
Just like Mike Daisey and his made-up stories about Foxconn and China these groups exist to cherry pick the worst things they can find and hope that the reader extrapolates that for all China. I live there. Smokey is very experienced with China, Jive owns a furniture factory there, many on this forum are intimately familiar with life on the ground in China.
People like you muckrake based on reports by BIASED groups backed by protectionist interests and expect those reports to be taken as gospel.
The Chinese people are going through their own industrial revolution. They were hampered by 40 years of communism and thousands of years of imperial rule before that. There are 1.4 BILLION living souls in China who need to survive.
That you are going to sit here and tell them how to live their lives and superimpose your values on them is nonsense. What if they told you to work for less and consume less? Yeah there are "bad" factories and jerkoff bosses - so what? There is that in the USA and all over the world.
You said that conditions are UNSAFE in Chinese tanneries. Have you ever seen a story about a Chinese tannery? Have you ever been in one? I have. Where is your proof there?
But since you want to make this personal then let's get real personal - anyone is welcome to come to my shop at ANY TIME without notice and inspect it. You can see how my people work, what the conditions are and I will tell you in person how much money each person makes for their work.
My doors are WIDE OPEN. My phone number in China is 0592-13950103110 and when you are in Xiamen just call me and within one hour you will be at my shop. Anyone who wants my address can have it and you are free to come unannounced and see the shop for yourself.
Even if I am not there you can come in and video everything you want. Regardless of how anyone else runs their place my place is run safely and cleanly and no one is treated badly at any time.
I live and work in the same place that my people do. I am on the floor alongside them every day.
So you can dig up all the reports you want but that has ZERO effect on how I run my shop. Furthermore these reports do not in the least reflect how the factories are run which I know of. I have been in dozens of factories over the past five years and none of them are run the way that these reports portray them. Only one that I know of is particularly crappy and even that one is not oppressive, just poorly run.
In China every single worker can walk away from his or her job at any moment. UNLESS they are being ILLEGALLY detained in which case such detainment is punishable by DEATH.
That's right, anyone found to be illegally holding people in slave-like conditions can be sentenced to death in China. And people are executed for doing just that. DEATH. Shot in the head immediately after sentencing, no appeal, DEATH.
The FACT is Hu that you don't know crap about China or Chinese people. Nor do you really care about them. You USE them to get back at me which is
PATHETIC.
Truly you care more about a stray dog in the river than the Chinese people because if you didn't then you would be vigorously protesting all the time and NOT only when you get into an argument with me and you think you can play the China card as a weapon to somehow get me.
Pathetic. Truly pathetic and insincere on your part.
My shop is open house every day. You might find a 3 year old "working" there as she loves to glue up parts when she visits.
- don't forget to sign up for the free raffle at
www.poolcuemarket.com - will be up tomorrow. Hu is ineligible.
