Question about Efren

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cuetechasaurus

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How many times has he been in the finals of a major tournament and lost? I know he won the US Open once, and the WPC once, but I heard he was in the finals a few times. Can anyone name the years and what tournaments? Thanks
 
cuetechasaurus said:
How many times has he been in the finals of a major tournament and lost? I know he won the US Open once, and the WPC once, but I heard he was in the finals a few times. Can anyone name the years and what tournaments? Thanks
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I think he has placed 2nd in the U.S. Open and World Championships a few times each. I think he even placed second in one of them two or three years in a row. This was in the early 90's I believe.
 
He made it to the finals of the U.S. Open four years in a row, I believe. He won it in 1994 against Varner, but lost to Pierce in 1995, Morris in 1996, and Stickland in 1997. I know he also lost the World Championship finals to Archer in 1993. Hope this helps a little.
 
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rossaroni said:
He made it to the finals of the U.S. Open four years in a row, I believe. He won it in 1994 against Varner, but lost to Pierce in 1995, Morris in 1996, and Stickland in 1997. I know he also lost the Wolrd Championship finals to Archer in 1993. Hope this helps a little.
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I saw this a while ago, I still can't believe he made the US Open final 4 times in a row, I think this stat alone proves (I know its hard to believe) that Efren is right when he says he played his best sometime ago. Amazing when u think what he is still achieving.
 
TheOne said:
I saw this a while ago, I still can't believe he made the US Open final 4 times in a row, I think this stat alone proves (I know its hard to believe) that Efren is right when he says he played his best sometime ago. Amazing when u think what he is still achieving.
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That is a great point. Imagine if you are on the top of your game in the worlds eye and yet to you, you lost a step or two. That just boggle the mind. One might then wonder if the real pressure or nerves we sometimes see him do get is coming from within or from the money. The last IPT match came to mind. Hmmmm, that one might have been the money. :D
 
Donovan said:
That is a great point. Imagine if you are on the top of your game in the worlds eye and yet to you, you lost a step or two. That just boggle the mind. One might then wonder if the real pressure or nerves we sometimes see him do get is coming from within or from the money. The last IPT match came to mind. Hmmmm, that one might have been the money. :D
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It was a setup, they weren't playing for anything really! :rolleyes: :D
 
Before Efren won the US Open in '94, he had a slight reputation for not taking the tourneys down. Yes, he won many tourneys, but he came in 2nd a lot. He couldn't quite take down the major titles. This is what the commentators said at the time of the '94 US Open.

Efren met Sigel in many a final back then and lost every one. This is why Efren respects Sigel's game. IIRC, he lists Sigel as his favorite player.
 
cuetechasaurus said:
How many times has he been in the finals of a major tournament and lost? I know he won the US Open once, and the WPC once, but I heard he was in the finals a few times. Can anyone name the years and what tournaments? Thanks
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I can't name the years, but for those relatively new in the pool world, Efren Reyes for a long time was known as Mr. Bridesmaid or Mr. Second Place. He would play excellently to make it to the finals, but whomever was in the finals happened to be playing their best. Mike Sigel beat him in every final they faced each other in 9-ball. Reed Pierce and Rodney Morris won the US Open over Efren. The first live televised 9-ball final, Strickland destroyed Efren. I believe Kim Davenport's first major win (one of the Sands tourneys) was over Efren.

That was in the glory days of American 9-ball. Late 80's to mid 90's. And of course, 9-ball isn't Efren's best game.

Fred
 
Cornerman said:
I can't name the years, but for those relatively new in the pool world, Efren Reyes for a long time was known as Mr. Bridesmaid or Mr. Second Place. He would play excellently to make it to the finals, but whomever was in the finals happened to be playing their best.
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You are stirring my cynical mind again. LOL.

Way too many second place finishes.
 
2006 dcc

Jan. 2007 i watched Stevie Moore from Atlanta, shoot Efren's nuts in
in the derby classic bank pool division.This was for the championship, 474 players, I was betting on Stevie, i could have won a fortune as everybody was wanting to bet on Reyes.

I shot his nuts in myself in 2006 in bank pool.
 
Efren lost to Earl in the Tara Open final and another huger tourney shown on ESPN.
He was being called the Manila Folder. Then he won the 1994 US Open.
The next two years, he won a ton of tourneys.
 
crosseyedjoe said:
You are stirring my cynical mind again. LOL.

Way too many second place finishes.
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A little more first place finishes (big tournaments) in the last decade than the previous. Kind of hard to be the best finisher and the worst loser in 2 decades of one's career.

Edwin<<thinks consistency is what sets Efren apart
 
crosseyedjoe said:
You are stirring my cynical mind again. LOL.

Way too many second place finishes.
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How about the fact that he was playing his second worst game.
Most any of the players who beat him at 9 ball,
at any other game on a green table, except straight pool,
he would have spanked.

Do you think anyone in the world could have stood
up to Efren in a contest of all the cue sports<pool, carom, snooker>
when he was in his prime?

Dale
 
cuetechasaurus said:
How many times has he been in the finals of a major tournament and lost? I know he won the US Open once, and the WPC once, but I heard he was in the finals a few times. Can anyone name the years and what tournaments? Thanks
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Year Championship Champion Runner-Up
2006 31st US Open John Schmidt Rodolfo Luat
2005 30th US Open Alex Pagulayan Jose Parica
2004 29th US Open Gabe Owen Thorsten Hohmann
2003 28th US Open Jeremy Jones Jose Parica
2002 27th US Open Ralf Souquet Alex Pagulayan
2001 26th US Open Corey Deuel Mika Immonen
2000 25th US Open Earl Strickland Takeshi Okumura
1999 24th US Open Johnny Archer Jeremy Jones
1998 23rd US Open Buddy Hall Tang Hoa
1997 22nd US Open Earl Strickland Efren Reyes
1996 21st US Open Rodney Morris Efren Reyes
1995 20th US Open Reed Pierce Efren Reyes
1994 19th US Open Efren Reyes Nick Varner
1993 18th US Open Earl Strickland Tony Ellin
1992 17th US Open Tommy Kennedy Johnny Archer
1991 16th US Open Buddy Hall Dennis Hatch
1990 15th US Open Nick Varner Mike Sigel
1989 14th US Open Nick Varner Kim Davenport
1988 13th US Open Mike Lebron Nick Varner
1987 12th US Open Earl Strickland Jim Rempe
1986 11th US Open David Howard Allen Hopkins
1985 10th US Open Jimmy Reid Mike Lebron
1984 9th US Open Earl Strickland
1983 8th US Open Mike Sigel David Howard
1982 7th US Open David Howard Mike Zuglan
1981 6th US Open Allen Hopkins
1980 5th US Open Mike Sigel
1979 4th US Open Louis Roberts
1978 3rd US Open Steve Mizerak
1977 2nd US Open Allen Hopkins
1976 1st US Open Mike Sigel
 
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Donovan's post reminds me of a quote by I believe Eric Dickerson and I think it applies to Efren: "I may have lost a step over the years, but it was a step nobody else had in the first place."
 
Louiville Louie said:
Jan. 2007 i watched Stevie Moore from Atlanta, shoot Efren's nuts in
in the derby classic bank pool division.This was for the championship, 474 players, I was betting on Stevie, i could have won a fortune as everybody was wanting to bet on Reyes.

I shot his nuts in myself in 2006 in bank pool.
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and your point is?
 
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