Question about McDermott cues with sharp points and veneers. Are they more desirable?

MikieG said:
Let me educate you a bit more.
Might I suggest that if your focus on your posts are trying to educate other posters, that's it's never a good approach in any long-running forum.

Fast Larry took that approach, and he could never understand just how poorly he came across.


Freddie <~~~ but keep on keeping on
 
So are they more desirable?

To some people they probably are but if he custom orders a McDermott cue the amount of money he will have to pay will be more than the value added.

Seems like a waste of money to me. It's still a production cue. Unless-----> he is absolutely in love with McDermott cues, loves the hit of McDermott cues, refuses to play with anything other than a McDermott cue - then spend the extra money to get a sharp pointed McDermott cue. As an investment - bad idea.
 
What are you talking about? I'm trying to find out more info on sharp rails, completely different subject.

What are you talking about? I'm trying to find out more info on sharp rails, completely different subject.

You just demonstrated the problem with sharp rails at one-pocket....
...tried to bank it once...into your pocket and double-banked into your opponent's hole.

Little known fact
Sharp points on a cue tend to become dull with use....
...that's why great cue-makers protect them with veneers.
 
You just demonstrated the problem with sharp rails at one-pocket....
...tried to bank it once...into your pocket and double-banked into your opponent's hole.

Little known fact
Sharp points on a cue tend to become dull with use....
...that's why great cue-makers protect them with veneers.

All joking aside if I see a cue with sharp points and veneers - all even - that in itself doesn't do anything for the hit of a cue but it is a sign to me of a cuemaker who has his $#*! together and therefore I expect the parts of the cue hidden from view to be well made.

If I see a cue with uneven points or points with spears on the end to hide imperfections I wonder what else the cuemaker didn't get right.
 
All joking aside if I see a cue with sharp points and veneers - all even - that in itself doesn't do anything for the hit of a cue but it is a sign to me of a cuemaker who has his $#*! together and therefore I expect the parts of the cue hidden from view to be well made.

If I see a cue with uneven points or points with spears on the end to hide imperfections I wonder what else the cuemaker didn't get right.

Right, but on the other hand, how many Scruggs are out their with uneven points?

Lots of em......
 
All joking aside if I see a cue with sharp points and veneers - all even - that in itself doesn't do anything for the hit of a cue but it is a sign to me of a cuemaker who has his $#*! together and therefore I expect the parts of the cue hidden from view to be well made.

If I see a cue with uneven points or points with spears on the end to hide imperfections I wonder what else the cuemaker didn't get right.

We're on the same page here.
I told Pete the Cop once that I wasn't into fancy cues...
...but I liked four point ebony butts with veneers on the points.
Pete said my instincts were good...the veneers strengthen the fore-arm.

BTW, I hear you're down to two cues....
...where's that six point Black Boar I lent you?
 
I don't want to negate your point, but....

Ernie Gutierrez doesn't do spliced forearm points. Never really did the half-splice/V-splice forearm (just a couple of them, according to him), unless it was a conversion (Though he did splice together wood in some cues to get sharp features.)

Jerry McWorter's older cues (with spliced, sharp 6 points) aren't as desirable as his modern, non-pointed cues.

Ray Schuler (one of the top engineering cuemakers) didn't do sharp forearm points, and didn't see the need for them in his cuemaking, so he stuck with flat bottom, routed inlay "points."

Runde-era Schon cues are desirable due to the name. My Runde-era Schon has sharp points, but an implex joint. I guarantee this cue is not a better cue than later-year Schon cues. Maybe other Runde-era Schon cues are desirable due to the points, but I think it's Bob's name that makes them so.

I personally like sharp points for looks, but I also like decorative round points if they still look nice.

I just love the classic Balabushka style look (with sharp points and veneers). I was curious about Ernie Gutierrez (to see if he has made any sharp pointed cues), and I did find this one (looks pretty sharp).

http://www.recollectioncues.com/gina18a.html

I understand that that is not the style of cue that he is well known for, but I see that he does make a super nice looking sharp pointed cue. I understand that some famous cue makers just have their own unique style about the way they make their cues (like Ginacue and Schuler).
 
All joking aside if I see a cue with sharp points and veneers - all even - that in itself doesn't do anything for the hit of a cue but it is a sign to me of a cuemaker who has his $#*! together and therefore I expect the parts of the cue hidden from view to be well made.

If I see a cue with uneven points or points with spears on the end to hide imperfections I wonder what else the cuemaker didn't get right.

That is a very good point. I had an Olney cue for a very short time, and the points and veneers were super nice looking, and very even all the way around. That is something that I rarely see in cues (almost perfectly even points, going all the way around).
 
I just love the classic Balabushka style look (with sharp points and veneers). I was curious about Ernie Gutierrez (to see if he has made any sharp pointed cues), and I did find this one (looks pretty sharp).

http://www.recollectioncues.com/gina18a.html

I understand that that is not the style of cue that he is well known for, but I see that he does make a super nice looking sharp pointed cue. I understand that some famous cue makers just have their own unique style about the way they make their cues (like Ginacue and Schuler).

my eyes are not good but l don't think the cue you are linking to here has sharp points, at the end of the veneers.
 
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I just love the classic Balabushka style look (with sharp points and veneers). I was curious about Ernie Gutierrez (to see if he has made any sharp pointed cues), and I did find this one (looks pretty sharp).

http://www.recollectioncues.com/gina18a.html

I understand that that is not the style of cue that he is well known for, but I see that he does make a super nice looking sharp pointed cue. I understand that some famous cue makers just have their own unique style about the way they make their cues (like Ginacue and Schuler).

Believe it or not, those are not sharp. They are made with inlaid pockets using a very a very small bit. This leaves a slightly rounded point. Below is what they would look like up close (from a Gina 17). Compare that to the sharp points on an old Runde Schon below.
 

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