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I am much more of a reader than a poster. This is really for Keith, but I thought maybe you could find out for me. In one of his threads I read, he said that when, Buddy I think it was, showed him how to hesitate the balls his speed went up, and he began running more racks. I made a note of that "hesitate the balls" and have always wondered what he meant. I always try to read what you write on here. You are one of my favorite posters.
 
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I am much more of a reader than a poster. This is really for Keith, but I thought maybe you could find out for me. In one of his threads I read, he said that when, Buddy I think it was, showed him how to hesitate the balls his speed went up, and he began running more racks. I made a note of that "hesitate the balls" and have always wondered what he meant. I always try to read what you write on here. You are one of my favorite posters.

Thank you so very much for the kind words. I really do appreciate it. :)

When Keith rises and shines, I will be sure to have him reply directly to your question. If I try to explain his arsenal of shots, I'm sure I will mess it up in the translation. :embarrassed2:

Buddy was a good mentor to many a player. He was a good influence on Keith when they were on the road together. When Buddy speaks, Keith listens, even today. Buddy has been a good friend to Keith during the good times and the bad times. :wink:
 

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a lot of us will!

Thanks Jam. I will look forward to what Keith has to say.

Anything that Keith finds of value, particularly Keith and Buddy Hall, we are all probably waiting with Smorg's "baited" breath.

JAM, I just thought of a fun idea that might turn a buck and in some ways would be even better than a book. Why not put Keith on a DVD? A few stories, a few tips, Keith just being Keith, it would be great! Maybe set up a little local exhibition and tape it.

Just thinking . . . .

Hu
 
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I am much more of a reader than a poster. This is really for Keith, but I thought maybe you could find out for me. In one of his threads I read, he said that when, Buddy I think it was, showed him how to hesitate the balls his speed went up, and he began running more racks. I made a note of that "hesitate the balls" and have always wondered what he meant. I always try to read what you write on here. You are one of my favorite posters.

A hesitation stroke is kind of a "feel" shot. You give it a one-pump and then a two-pump. It reassures a much finer stroke from the cueball to the object ball.

I usually grip my cue in the middle of the butt and then I'll slip stroke it a little with a one-pump and a two-pump, and then my hand will gradually go back a little bit further on the two-pump. It's a little bit of a slip stroke.

It takes a lot of experimenting with this technique, but if you practice, you will gradually become comfortable with it. The balls will go a lot smoother in the pockets, and you'll feel the authority that is needed with better precision from the cueball to the object ball to the pocket.

Experimenting with the different englishes, bottom right, inside left, center, kill, et cetera, will help you recognize the correct finesse to apply to the shot. On the force follow medium right english, for example, aim your cuestick a little bit downward with the butt end a little bit more up in the air.

When I started understanding the hesitation stroke, I didn't actually get it at first, but as I worked on it and developed all the different angle shots involved, I started using it on almost all my shots. It made the shots a lot easier. I could put the cueball on automatic pilot without thinking about it. I could play the cueball in like a 6-to-8-inch vicinity and get it there every time, no matter where I was at on the table. If it was going 2 rails to get shape, 3 rails to get shape, I got there. Very seldom I would get snookered because I knew exactly where the cueball was going.

The hesitation stroke did make me a better player than I was at the time. My cueball control went up to a speed that was like the 8 and 9 better than my original speed in just a short time.
 
A hesitation stroke is kind of a "feel" shot. You give it a one-pump and then a two-pump. It reassures a much finer stroke from the cueball to the object ball.

I usually grip my cue in the middle of the butt and then I'll slip stroke it a little with a one-pump and a two-pump, and then my hand will gradually go back a little bit further on the two-pump. It's a little bit of a slip stroke.

It takes a lot of experimenting with this technique, but if you practice, you will gradually become comfortable with it. The balls will go a lot smoother in the pockets, and you'll feel the authority that is needed with better precision from the cueball to the object ball to the pocket.

Experimenting with the different englishes, bottom right, inside left, center, kill, et cetera, will help you recognize the correct finesse to apply to the shot. On the force follow medium right english, for example, aim your cuestick a little bit downward with the butt end a little bit more up in the air.

When I started understanding the hesitation stroke, I didn't actually get it at first, but as I worked on it and developed all the different angle shots involved, I started using it on almost all my shots. It made the shots a lot easier. I could put the cueball on automatic pilot without thinking about it. I could play the cueball in like a 6-to-8-inch vicinity and get it there every time, no matter where I was at on the table. If it was going 2 rails to get shape, 3 rails to get shape, I got there. Very seldom I would get snookered because I knew exactly where the cueball was going.

The hesitation stroke did make me a better player than I was at the time. My cueball control went up to a speed that was like the 8 and 9 better than my original speed in just a short time.

Keith,

Thank you for sharing this great information with us!
 
Thank you so very much for the kind words. I really do appreciate it. :)

Buddy has been a good friend to Keith during the good times and the bad times. :wink:

Here's hoping it's good times now. :smile:
 
Thanks Keith. I've been wondering for a long time what you were talking about. I used to go to the Glass City Open when you played there. I still have the t-shirt. :) It sure would be nice to see you play again. Best of luck.

SteveD
 
that is one of the most well writen informative posts EVER Mr. Quake!

I first noticed the Pinoy players using that kind of stroke back maybe 20 years ago, and have worked on it ever since. They would look like they were hitting the ball with minimal effort and they would get all kinds of action!!! there are the 14.1 matches from 2000 where Efren was opening up the stack with what looked like a bunt stroke, but the balls were spreading out sweet!

thanx for posting!

G.
 
Wow

Yo Earthquake --

Great to see you posting again. I've been experimenting with the slip stroke and am excited about where it's taking my game. I've been playing for better than a half-century, but now that I'm retired I've had time to practice several hours a day.

Thanks for this great instruction. It's the kind of information that serious players would pay for.

As an aside, I'll tell you a little story:

Years ago I stumbled across an old article about you written by Phil Chappelle (sp?) that got me curious, so I googled your name and found the AZ board, and got to reading Ms. Malone's excellent posts.

I grew up in Denver when Ronnie Allen was the talk of the pool-playing underground, along with Cornbread, Weenie-Beanie and Eddie Taylor. Saw them all at the old Family Fun Center. You and JAM visited there a couple years ago, as I recall.

I'm just a banger who once set out on a pool-playing and hitchhiking trip. Spent a month in San Francisco, on Market Street deep in the Tenderloin, playing at Cochran's and the Palace. Some dude named Paul Silva beat me out of my bankroll and sent me home.

This was 1967, a little before your time, at least on the national scene. But because of that article, I joined AZB, bought myself a house that has a game room in the basement with my 8-foot table, bar and plasma TV.

Happy hour is 24-7, when drinks are on the house. You and your guest are invited, as are all reputable AZers.
 
Whoa, how's that for strong.
You brought the man, the myth, the legend, out of posting retirement for this one.

Jenny and Keith, hope you're well.
Koop
 
Whoa, how's that for strong.
You brought the man, the myth, the legend, out of posting retirement for this one.

Jenny and Keith, hope you're well.
Koop

Back atcha, Mr. Koopster. I have been reading about your progress at the tournaments up in New England. Seems like you have found your game. I just might be a railbird at one of your tournaments. We're heading for New England way soon. :p
 
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Anything that Keith finds of value, particularly Keith and Buddy Hall, we are all probably waiting with Smorg's "baited" breath.

JAM, I just thought of a fun idea that might turn a buck and in some ways would be even better than a book. Why not put Keith on a DVD? A few stories, a few tips, Keith just being Keith, it would be great! Maybe set up a little local exhibition and tape it.

Just thinking . . . .

Hu

You always have the best ideas, Hu Man. You know who's going to get the first copy, don't you? ;)
 
Yo Earthquake --

Great to see you posting again. I've been experimenting with the slip stroke and am excited about where it's taking my game. I've been playing for better than a half-century, but now that I'm retired I've had time to practice several hours a day.

Thanks for this great instruction. It's the kind of information that serious players would pay for.

As an aside, I'll tell you a little story:

Years ago I stumbled across an old article about you written by Phil Chappelle (sp?) that got me curious, so I googled your name and found the AZ board, and got to reading Ms. Malone's excellent posts.

I grew up in Denver when Ronnie Allen was the talk of the pool-playing underground, along with Cornbread, Weenie-Beanie and Eddie Taylor. Saw them all at the old Family Fun Center. You and JAM visited there a couple years ago, as I recall.

I'm just a banger who once set out on a pool-playing and hitchhiking trip. Spent a month in San Francisco, on Market Street deep in the Tenderloin, playing at Cochran's and the Palace. Some dude named Paul Silva beat me out of my bankroll and sent me home.

This was 1967, a little before your time, at least on the national scene. But because of that article, I joined AZB, bought myself a house that has a game room in the basement with my 8-foot table, bar and plasma TV.

Happy hour is 24-7, when drinks are on the house. You and your guest are invited, as are all reputable AZers.

Thanks for the great post. I enjoyed the read. :)
 
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