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Questions on Diamond "Pro Cut " Tables
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evolution03
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So you have to reply every time ? You aren’t required to answer anyone’s question. If it makes you so unhappy why would you explain anything ?
Accomplished people spend a great deal of time sorting out the details of their craft(s). The distillation of knowledge they have developed tends to be less opinion and more factual conclusion and to them, integral to the genre in question. I think in those terms, diplomacy would be mostly BS.
He answers peoples questions so their flawed opinions get corrected into facts, that way there are not a bunch of people spouting off opinions as fact. Quite honestly, it makes people sound a little silly when they pass their opinions as factual, it makes it a little hard to believe anything else they say afterword's.
evolution03
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Yeah he knows his stuff. I didn’t post an opinion I posted an experience. My experience is red label is very bouncy and blue label is less bouncy but more so than most other tables. Posting exclamation points after most sentences is basically yelling on the internet all caps is considered yelling also.
Ridiculous. Diamond tables don't play short because of humidity.
evolution03
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Yeah I wouldn’t think so either. humidity can change how a table plays but I wouldn’t think it would bank shorter
In billiards, short means one of the two short rails; just the opposite of what pool players may refer to as long.
I'm curious about your comment here. Are you saying that Diamond ships their tables from the factory with cloth already installed on the bed and the rails? How is that possible?
Wow, really???
Yes. For the "Pro/Am" models, in both 7' and 9' sizes. They are fully assembled except for the legs. Including bed cloth, rails, rail cloth, etc. The slate is one piece to allow this. They are loaded into a truck on their side, and onto a special cart so they can be rolled into place. Once at the location, the legs are screwed into place while still on their side on a cart. Then the table is flipped over to land on its feet. Its a sight to behold. I've seen it myself at DCC when they swap out the 9' and 10' tables for the DCC Bigfoot challange. There is a youtube video put out by Accustats I think of the table flip at DCC if you can find it.
When they set up over 300 tables for the APA Nationals, do you REALLY believe they install all the cloth on them in just a couple of days? When the deliver and set up the tables for the US Open 9 ball event, do you really think they wait until they get them there to install the cloth? Are you NEW or something? Diamond has been delivering and setting up their tables fully assembled, with cloth on, since January 2001.
Smart tables too, not just the ProAms.
Here, read this, for all you know-it-alls!
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Pool Table Humidity Effects
How does an increase in humidity affect how a table plays?
With more humid conditions, the following changes occur:- Sidespin “takes” more on the rails (i.e., the ball “bites” more due to increased friction).
- Draw shots are more difficult due to increased “drag” (due to the cloth playing “stickier” with increased sliding friction).
- The pockets play “tighter” because rebound is “shorter” (and rail-induced spin “takes” more) off the pocket facings.
- The cloth plays slower (because of increased rolling resistance), and sidespin wears off faster.
- Banks go “shorter” (due to more friction).
- The CB can hop off the cushions more (and this delays post rebound curve, making the effective bank angle even shorter).
- The cushions can play bouncier and faster (since the nose of the cushion grabs the balls more).
- The balls can throw more, and there can be more cling/skid/kick (because the balls tend to get more dirty and hold chalk residue more).
- Swerve happens sooner, so net CB deflection (the combined effects of squirt and swerve, or squerve) will be less.
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ALL POOL tables play short when dealing with humidity, Einstein!!!
I can see the logic in that for the big events. I was more asking about home tables. Videos like the one below suggested to me that they are shipped in parts and assembled on site.
That all depends on the install of the table. When I designed it, I intentionally designed it to be able to be taken apart, installed, then reassembled. For this type of set up, a 3 piece slate is required, although I have taken the 1 piece slates and cut them into 2 pieces and did the install that way. BUT, then rails ARE recovered from the factory and shipped as done, just disassembled as well.