Quite possibly the most undeserved win in a final in the history of pool

Colin, on the shot you posted that Shane attempted a bank on, I was hoping he would have slightly cut the 7 ball to the rail and drew the cue ball back behind the 8 ball.
 
Jnk818 said:
Why is it sickening? They both deserve the win. Although Ko did get a few lucky rolls, Shane did not capitalize very well on the easy kicks he got in return. It could easily have went the other way and Shane may very well have been in Ko's place right now.
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Be careful with your posts my friend..... For the op and lots of Shane's fans, it was all about Ko's luck and rolls..... Shane played perfect pool in the finals !!!!!!!!!!!!
 
OLD NO 9 said:
Stu
When I first read your posts, right after the final, I found you harsh and unsympathetic to Shane's plight. I went back and watched the final starting from the score tied 9-9. From that score onward Shane did have numerous chances to win and didn't capitalize on them. Over coming adversity and winning are what legendary competitions are made from. Shane just fell a little short on what could have been a remarkable victory. Maybe next time.

Shane is not the first to be tested this way. One of my favorite all time players Francisco Bustamante seemed to be cursed. Francisco was all so close to winning championships with "World" attached to them many times, only to have some happenstance occur and deny him. Francisco finally got his and Shane is young enough to eventually win the title with word "World" attached to it also.
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Thanks for your comments.

SVB is a champion of the highest order and his world championship will come one day.

I was rooting for him and was saddened by the loss. There can be no denying that a few bad rolls hurt SVB and that Ko had the better of the luck in the match, but the title was there for the taking. I feel certain that SVB himself knows this and will learn from it.

Ko Pin Yi, too, is a superstar of the highest magnitude. Wouldn't it be cool if they met again at the US Open next month?

As an American fan, this was a pleasing WPA World 9-ball Championship for me with SVB winning a silver medal and Mike Dechaine tying for 9th. Much to feel good about as I see it.

Smart move watching the replay, which seems to have put the match in a clearer perspective for you.

See you on the forum,

Stu
 
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this thread is in poor taste

Ko is the champ and well deserved imo

9 ball is what it is.....it's not flawed

it has a quick and fast and luck element designed to make it appealing for obvious reasons, it also evolved pool by having players learn the break shot

the greatest pool matches i've seen over the past couple decades were nine ball
Quick and fast?

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Quick and fast? That was not what i was watching. A plague on the houses of all slow players, Ko included. I didn't think he was particularly lucky but he's definitely tedious to watch.


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Yeah, screw players like Souquet, Archer, Fong Pang Chao and whatever other world beater through the years. Pool is all about speed, not about balls going in to the pockets. You, sir, have figured out what pool is all about.
Actually, I've figured out what sport is all about: entertainment.

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Ron Swanson
Actually, I've figured out what sport is all about: entertainment. Nothing entertaining about pool, chief.

Yea, but you probably sit at home watching Manchester United, Chelsea or whatever other football team that tickles your fancy run around in their underpants for 90 plus minutes and call it entertainment.

Actually I'm very much in favor of shot clocks
 
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sjm said:
Thanks for your comments.

SVB is a champion of the highest order and his world championship will come one day.

I was rooting for him and was saddened by the loss. There can be no denying that a few bad rolls hurt SVB and that Ko had the better of the luck in the match, but the title was there for the taking. I feel certain that SVB himself knows this and will learn from it.

Ko Pin Yi, too, is a superstar of the highest magnitude. Wouldn't it be cool if they met again at the US Open next month?

As an American fan, this was a pleasing WPA World 9-ball Championship for me with SVB winning a silver medal and Mike Dechaine tying for 9th. Much to feel good about as I see it.

Smart move watching the replay, which seems to have put the match in a clearer perspective for you.

See you on the forum,

Stu
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Sjm, you are quite the scholar and I enjoy reading your posts. I hope I get a chance to meet you at the Mosconi Cup, that is if you're still going lol. It all depends on Mike's induction to the team.
 
Can one shoot a shot that can be missed and play shape that will also hook the opponent just in case?
 
irock said:
Colin, on the shot you posted that Shane attempted a bank on, I was hoping he would have slightly cut the 7 ball to the rail and drew the cue ball back behind the 8 ball.
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I doubt if there was a player in that field that wouldn't go that that bank with BIH.
A champion HAS to go for it.
 
pt109 said:
I doubt if there was a player in that field that wouldn't go that that bank with BIH.
A champion HAS to go for it.
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I have to disagree with you here. I was surprised he took the bank. I don't think most would have. This is why-

-You miss the bank, you most likely sold out
-you play the safe and stick him behind the 8.
-yes, the safe lets him back to the table. But, it is with a kick shot. His odds of making the 7 on the kick are miniscule. His odds of hooking you again on the kick are very low. The odds of him leaving you another bank shot are 50-50, and the odds of him leaving you some kind of makeable shot are also 50-50.

In other words, playing the safe, the odds are in your favor of at worse having another bank, and at best of having a makeable shot.

While I'm all for taking the shot when you can, this wasn't one of those times. Odds were better with the safe. I think he was looking too much at getting the game over with, and made the poorer choice.
 
Kris_b1104 said:
Sjm, you are quite the scholar and I enjoy reading your posts. I hope I get a chance to meet you at the Mosconi Cup, that is if you're still going lol. It all depends on Mike's induction to the team.
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I certainly expect to be there. Look forward to meeting you. Hoping we'll send a team of guys that have played well THIS year. It's our only chance.
 
Even with all those rolls, Shane had enough opportunities to win the match anyway and didn't cash in. The set was close enough that it basically came down to 1 miss from Shane's point of view. Flip-flop any one game and it easily could've turned out different. Have a feeling if you ask Shane he'd say the same thing which is a credit to his greatness.

There's always meat left on the bone in sets. Didn't Earl win a US Open once by only missing 2 shots the entire tournament?
 
Ron Swanson said:
Like virtually everyone else, you mean? Great idea. :rolleyes:

How about making pool exciting instead?
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Mr Swanson....if that world nine ball final wasn't exciting to you....
...then you are an action junkie that is too hard to satisfy...
...maybe you should climb Mt Everest....or check out the war in the Middle East.

We almost conked out the stream and AZ that day...
....and over 900 viewers on the main forum reading the reports after.

Pool is exciting for a lot of us.
 
pt109 said:
Mr Swanson....if that world nine ball final wasn't exciting to you....
...then you are an action junkie that is too hard to satisfy...
...maybe you should climb Mt Everest....or check out the war in the Middle East.

We almost conked out the stream and AZ that day...
....and over 900 viewers on the main forum reading the reports after.

Pool is exciting for a lot of us.
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And if your boy wasnt in it? What then?

18.5m stayed tuned after midnight to watch the conclusion of Taylor Vs Davis, or one third of the entire population.
 
Ron Swanson said:
18.5m stayed tuned after midnight to watch the conclusion of Taylor Vs Davis, or one third of the entire population.
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And that was due to the speed of the match? I guess not.

Snooker is a completely different animal and strictly British.
 
Ron Swanson said:
And if your boy wasnt in it? What then?

18.5m stayed tuned after midnight to watch the conclusion of Taylor Vs Davis, or one third of the entire population.
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Yeah, I watched the Davis/Taylor match....the tension was, well, intense.
....so was the nine ball final.
What you got in both were people striving under pressure....
....no boring ' regarde moi' strutting...
....it was real
 
Ron Swanson said:
Lol.

Strictly british? I'm sensing something about it only being popular because of internet gambling soon...
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Yes, strictly British. How many countries world wide are involved in snooker? Playing wise that is. How many players outside the UK are top players? Snooker is dying in the UK ( more snooker clubs are closing than opening) and that's a FACT that even Barry Hearn does not deny and tries his best to restore some of the interest back. In the meanwhile he's creating more and more tournaments in Asia and Europe because the interest is much higher at the moment but that's only spectator-wise but not playing wise. The German Masters is a full packed arena because the people want to see live the players they had the chance to see them live only if they've travelled in the UK, BUT how many of them practice snooker professionally or even in an amateur level. None!
 
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