Quotes that make you shake your head...

RichZuHaus said:
Here's one for you...not pool related per se, but definitely on topic. I happen to be a fairly accomplished blues harmonica player. It is pretty obscure, so just for some back-fill; a player with proper technique can elevate a simple diatonic harmonica from a dime store, airy, thin sounding instrument, to one that sings with almost horn like tonality.

Everyone has one when they're a kid, so no one takes it seriously. If i had a nickle for every time I had a guy or girl at a show say "what kind of special harmonica is that?"

I once even had a guy offer me 50 bucks for a harmonica of mine....I said, "listen, you can get one for 10 bucks at any music store." To which he replied, "no, there is something special about that one!" Easiest 40 bucks I ever made. It goes back to the adage I hear around here all the time..."it's the Indian, not the arrow."

Even among harmonica wannabes, it is very rare to find an individual who has truly become proficient....it is due to a lack of knowledge. They don't know the music or tradition, just like the pool bangers don't know the game.

A pool player will never be more than a "banger" unless he studies the game, studies the greats and plays all the games. They just bang balls around the table with no finesse, no concept of shape, english, or other fundamentals.

Similarly, most harmonica wannabes aren't even really musical. They sit in with a band and step all over the other musicians. They have no concept of musicality, leaving space...don't know chord changes and the standard songs that all hip blues musicians know. But since most people have never heard the true potential of the instrument, a guy who can just get some sound out of the thing is considered a pro.

No different than times I've been out shooting, ran a rack or two and had girls ask me if I play on ESPN. Hell, I'm a C player...I run a rack once in awhile...I'm sure as hell not gifted with a cue at this point. It is all in who you compare yourself to. In anything I do, I compare myself to the best, therefore I am low-mid tier at best. As Socrates said, "the only knowledge comes from knowing that you know nothing."

To me it is just the same in pool as in anything...you have true aficionados of the game of pool, who know all about banks, one pocket, can name the great players past and present....know the techniques, etc.

As an aspiring pool player, I understand these types of frustrations, but I can tell you with absolute certainty that this sort of thing is common in many other endeavors and not exclusive in any way to pool.

The wannabes never know what they don't know...and as Danny D. says, "If you knew what you didn't know, you'd already know it!"

I have lauged many a time at these types, but at the same time, I feel a responsibility to educate; however, I only give my time when I know I have a receptive party on the other end.

Just a thought.

R.S.
I agree with you 100% about "You dont know what you dont know" but man sometimes it is down right funny. When someone asks me what I think is silly question I try to make myself stop and think "Ok, if they don't know, help them out, be nice and maybe they will get more interested in the game."

But sometimes.....:D

The ones that I have no sympathy for are the people who spread bad information like it was the gospel. The worst part of it is, usually, the people they are talking to have no frame of reference and simply do not know any better.
 
JCIN said:
I agree with you 100% about "You dont know what you dont know" but man sometimes it is down right funny. When someone asks me what I think is silly question I try to make myself stop and think "Ok, if they don't know, help them out, be nice and maybe they will get more interested in the game."

But sometimes.....:D

The ones that I have no sympathy for are the people who spread bad information like it was the gospel. The worst part of it is, usually, the people they are talking to have no frame of reference and simply do not know any better.

Yep, I can see that side of it too, for sure. I find that most special people I meet are often the most humble and willing to help someone who has the right attitude. Preaching your faux gospel like you're some kind of expert sure as hell ain't the right attitude in my book.

Great post.

R.S.
 
hang-the-9 said:
2 guys playing a few tables from me, examaning the cue-ball when they were done. "Hey, why is the cue-ball the same size as the rest?" I'm glad I missed what the other guy said in reply.

Group of young kids walking in "See, it's just like going to the mall, except we are playing pool".

Me playing another guy in a winner stays on table match "Well ofcourse you won, you had all easy shots".

Please lord, save us from the pool ignorance.
So I'm hitting them on the front table off to the side but its a billiard table and I'm practicing 3-c - guy and wife (I guess) walk by and she says --Oh
look that table is different from all the rest --. and he says - that is a special table to just hit balls around on - you know to practice for the pool tables! Any way they eventually got rid of it because no one played on it but me and some of the crew behind the counter.
 
Milo said:
What about, "I cant believe Im getting beat by this little hispanic girl." LOL
When I think back on it, it makes me laugh. LOL
It was said by an older player in his 60s. I considered the source and let it go.

Now THAT sounds like Don Mackay. Remember the time he called Dan Louie a racial name, and Dan got fired up and literally ran out the set on his opponent, who Don was betting on?

Russ
 
players walking around a non-coin op table looking for where to put the coins in.

- you play as good as Willie Mascara - meant sincerely to compliment my play from a neophyte. (although it could be a good backhanded compliment from one real player to another.)

Once we told some people in a bar that there was a professional tournament going on across the street with the best men pros in it and that the admission was free. They asked if "that asian chick" is playing.
 
When people walk in, see the golf table, and say "see, that's the table the pros play on".

"one pocket? no, they can't be playing one pocket. one pocket is a game that's played on a 10-foot table with snooker felt"
 
Stupid is as stupid does

Reading these posts made me think of the times that I've seen people like those described here (little or no knowledge of the game or industry) actually open a pool room themselves. It always leads to some interesting situations.

Most recently, I got a call from a new room owner who wanted me to come check his four billiard tables. He said nobody would play on them.
When I got there I found a nice looking room and the owner had spent a ton of money on 26 brand new tables, four of which were similar to billiard tables in that they had no pockets.

Whoever sold him these tables must have realized early on that he had no clue. All the tables had a dark red napped colth and the lights over them didn't put out enough light to light up a broom closet. The billiard tables were simply 9-foot pool tables that had been converted to billiard tables with the same slow napped cloth as the rest of the tables.

The owner thanked me for coming by but informed me that he had already sloved his problem. He said since nobody would play on them he was going to turn them into regular pool tables with pockets. I told him that was probaly a good idea and if he would like I could check on getting a price on some "regular" pool table rails that would fit those tables. He said he already called the company that sold him the tables and they wanted way too much money, "So my buddy,who is a good carpenter, is bringing in his table saw tomorrow to cut the pockets in and it's only going to costs me a few beers".

When he couldn't be talked out of his cheap fix, I said, "Well, if he is a real good carpenter, maybe he can add some drink shelves right onto the sides of the tables so the customer doesn't have to leave the table when their playing". He said, "That's a good idea, I hadn't thought of that, maybe I can get him to put some on all the tables".
 
M HOUSE said:
Reading these posts made me think of the times that I've seen people like those described here (little or no knowledge of the game or industry) actually open a pool room themselves. It always leads to some interesting situations.

Oh ya, that is a sad state when that happens. A place in Boston opened up, basically copying the Boston Billiards idea, pool and drinks and silly giggling girls on dates plus hot staff = money. But unlike Boston Billiards, they had placed furniture all around the tables so you could only shoot from 3 of the rails on half the tables, the house cues were placed in the bridge holders, and within a week half the tables had spill stains on them.

Another place I went to had about 6-8 tables, but I don't think any of them matched in model, cloth type or level of maintenance. And all played bad, dead rails, rolls, old cloth. They also decided that placing them in a random flower-like arrangement was a good idea. The result being that at any given time there were 3-4 people trying to occupy the same space to shoot.
 
Walking around a GC "where do you put the quarters?"

Watching 1 pocket "why are you guys still shooting when you made the 8 already?"

"You won but you didn't kick my ass this time,i only had 2 balls left on the table"
 
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A guy playing next to me during a tournament said "That happened cause I used too much long stroke!" Right after the ass fires a ball off the table.
We had the entire tournament laughing their asses off over that one.

I work during the day at the pool hall in town and it amazes me how many people rack the balls at the head of the table and break with cue ball on the spot.
I also had a buddy who wanted to play and I asked do you wanna play 8 ball or 9 ball. He looked baffled and said what games are those. I explained the game of 8 ball and he said Oh! you mean pool! I bout slapped him.

Then there is the endless masses of 50 somethings who used to make a living supposedly playing pool back in the day. But now they can't make a ball to save their lives.
 
dabarbr said:
Years ago on a road trip my buddy said to me " I don't understand it, you get all the easy ones, they just stand there holding their sticks".
Thats cute.---Smitty
 
Happen as I was beating a guy real bad on a barbox. His friend told the guy you can't beat him he's too good. Guy tells his friend hell he's not that good all he ever shoots are the straight ins. I about fell to the floor laughing.---Smitty
 
Car shows and drag races are places where the uninitiated make some pretty uninformed comments.

Why are the tires so big?

What's that big thing on top of the engine?

That's a blower.

What does it blow?

And the list goes on and on.

There are a lot of things we take for granted but which are completely "Greek" to those that haven't been around. Computers are maybe the best/worst place for the uninitiated. When I'm around computer geeks I keep my mouth shut because I don't know the first thing about these cursed things and my questions have often been semi-embarrassing. Of course I don't learn much that way :)
 
I was playing 1p for 50/gm and these two HOT chicks come in to the pool room, get a beer, and sit down next to our table to wait for their table. The balls start going up table and pretty soon we have a Nick Varner type wedge going on. The bunting is horrendous in our game and at one point we have a ball that is being thinned closer and closer to a corner. One of the girls says "I can't believe they keep missing that shot!" I want to say something but I figure I better focus on trying to win.

The girls table comes up and its next to us. They play two games of 8ball, maybe 20 min and meanwhile on our table the wedge continues minus 2 or 3 balls. The hot chicks quit, close their table and one goes to pay the tab while the other sits down next to our table again, waiting for her friend. The other girl returns and I hear her say.."Are these guys still playing that game?" "Yeah, they are even worse than us...at least we got two games in an half an hour". "Yeah they suck, lets go!"

The guy I was playing remarked as they were leaving...Dude we should have called no bet on this game and played nineball for a while....
 
at turningstone, mike zuglan introduces johnny archer "world champion, 11 time player of the year, player of the decade in the 90's blah, blah..."

there's a couple sitting behind us, the husband shows up just a few minutes into the match. the wife leans into him and as she is "in the know" whipsers to him: "this should be a good match. i think he's the northeast champion or something". my son and i almost died from laughter.

brian
 
I heard you thought you could play. Give me the six, last two and the break, and I'll show you how bad you do play.
 
A buddy at the pool room told me this story. He is watching Ray Martin playing in a tournament and there is a scratch on the 9. This was before Texas Express and it was ball in hang behind the line with the nine spotted. Cool cat misses the 9 and from the stands some one yells real loud, "THATS SHOT #100!" Apparently, the 99 critical shots book doesnt have the spot shot in it.
 
smoooothstroke said:
"You won but you didn't kick my ass this time,i only had 2 balls left on the table"

That's the one that drives me crazy. I always try to explain the way 8 ball is supposed to be played and why the ball count is meaningless. If they seem even remotely interested, I'll even try to demonstrate the concept by playing a few games where they get to take all their balls off the table after the break as long as I get first crack at the table. :D
 
uwate said:
I was playing 1p for 50/gm and these two HOT chicks come in to the pool room, get a beer, and sit down next to our table to wait for their table. The balls start going up table and pretty soon we have a Nick Varner type wedge going on. The bunting is horrendous in our game and at one point we have a ball that is being thinned closer and closer to a corner. One of the girls says "I can't believe they keep missing that shot!" I want to say something but I figure I better focus on trying to win.

The girls table comes up and its next to us. They play two games of 8ball, maybe 20 min and meanwhile on our table the wedge continues minus 2 or 3 balls. The hot chicks quit, close their table and one goes to pay the tab while the other sits down next to our table again, waiting for her friend. The other girl returns and I hear her say.."Are these guys still playing that game?" "Yeah, they are even worse than us...at least we got two games in an half an hour". "Yeah they suck, lets go!"

The guy I was playing remarked as they were leaving...Dude we should have called no bet on this game and played nineball for a while....

I agree, you should have played something else. New rule of gambling.. no one-pocket around sexy girls.
 
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