Races to 4 for the pro's???

Sky’s money should be no better than my money, Tinman’s money, or anyone else’s money as long as pool tournaments are largely funded by entry fees.

We all have expenses and all should be taking equal chances on the draw. The pros already have the dice loaded way in their favor against most amateurs.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
Sky’s money should be no better than my money, Tinman’s money, or anyone else’s money as long as pool tournaments are largely funded by entry fees.

We all have expenses and all should be taking equal chances on the draw. The pros already have the dice loaded way in their favor against most amateurs.

Lou Figueroa
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So you feel amateurs should have a right to play the Pro's?
 
With how things stand currently, pros need amateurs much more than amateurs need pros. The prize pool is largely made up from entry fees so the pros need the amateur’s “dead money” to grow the pot and make playing somewhat financially viable for them.
 
realkingcobra said:
So you feel amateurs should have a right to play the Pro's?
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If we’re all paying an entry fee our playing ability should not matter.

If a promoter is holding a pro event or invitational, no. However, at this stage of the game most pool tournament prize funds which, by-and-large end up benefiting the pros anyway, are built on the backs of amateurs willing to donate. The pros should not begrudge amateurs a fair draw.

Lou Figueroa
 
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lfigueroa said:
If we’re all paying an entry fee our playing ability should not matter.

If a promoter is holding a pro event or invitational, no. However, at this stage of the game most pool tournament prize funds which, by-and-large end up benefiting the pros anyway, are built on the backs of amateurs willing to donate. The pros should not begrudge amateurs a fair draw.

Lou Figueroa
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Don't you you feel that model is holding Professional pool as a sport back, from having a true Pro division of players?
 
lfigueroa said:
If we’re all paying an entry fee our playing ability should not matter.

If a promoter is holding a pro event or invitational, no. However, at this stage of the game most pool tournament prize funds which, by-and-large end up benefiting the pros anyway, are built on the backs of amateurs willing to donate. The pros should not begrudge amateurs a fair draw.

Lou Figueroa
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Can you name any other sport that so many amateurs get to play against the Professionals of that sport?
 
:) played the best of the best last week,
yeah, it was a right (paid the dues) and the dice may of been loaded and yet with a reasonable chance on getting a win simply just choked.
After giving the fist bump for their win was reminded 'we are playing psychological warfare'.
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May of or maybe not seen something about this earlier, US Pro games.
Good to see Mike wondering how to track, score value of something other than 8, 9, 10, and 1P.
 
Scrunge19 said:
With how things stand currently, pros need amateurs much more than amateurs need pros. The prize pool is largely made up from entry fees so the pros need the amateur’s “dead money” to grow the pot and make playing somewhat financially viable for them.
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Tell me something, if the Pro's refused to play in amateurs events because they had Pro's ONLY events to compete in, would you still get as many amateurs signing up, paying those high dollar entry fees??
 
realkingcobra said:
Can you name any other sport that so many amateurs get to play against the Professionals of that sport?
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A fundamental problem with your question is that “pro” status is ill defined in pool.

IOWs no one can say exactly what constitutes “professional” status. A secondary issue is that pool does not have a strong governing body. And third, we certainly don’t have a viable tour. So what we’re generally left with are actually amateur tournaments or open events, if you prefer.

Perhaps your question should be: is there another sport where the pros get to play so many amateurs? Because that’s really what it is. We’re closer to poker than anything else, where you buy in, get your chips and play your cards. Last I heard the top poker players were not being seeded at the WSOP.

Lou Figueroa
 
I think this format is silly. Not much more to say, if you want a race to 7 or 8, then have a race to 7 or 8. Don't try to reinvent the wheel every time.
 
lfigueroa said:
A fundamental problem with your question is that “pro” status is ill defined in pool.

IOWs no one can say exactly what constitutes “professional” status. A secondary issue is that pool does not have a strong governing body. And third, we certainly don’t have a viable tour. So what we’re generally left with are actually amateur tournaments or open events, if you prefer.

Perhaps your question should be: is there another sport where the pros get to play so many amateurs? Because that’s really what it is. We’re closer to poker than anything else, where you buy in, get your chips and play your cards. Last I heard the top poker players were not being seeded at the WSOP.

Lou Figueroa
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For simplicity, let's say Pro events require a 775 or higher FR. How many amateurs would that eliminate from the event??
 
realkingcobra said:
For simplicity, let's say Pro events require a 775 or higher FR. How many amateurs would that eliminate from the event??
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And how am I suppose to know this and why would it matter?

You are asking a how many angels can dance on the head of a pin question. It is unknowable and it doesn’t matter.

Lou Figueroa
 
lfigueroa said:
And how am I suppose to know this and why would it matter?

You are asking a how many angels can dance on the head of a pin question. It is unknowable and it doesn’t matter.

Lou Figueroa
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If you look up the top 100 players in the world by FR, a rating of 775 or higher takes in the top 90 players in the sport. And with that being the requirement to play in PRO events, it leaves room for players to improve their FR to 775 or higher, if they want to be included in the PRO'S only events.
 
realkingcobra said:
If you look up the top 100 players in the world by FR, a rating of 775 or higher takes in the top 90 players in the sport. And with that being the requirement to play in PRO events, it leaves room for players to improve their FR to 775 or higher, if they want to be included in the PRO'S only events.
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This scenario (775) means a maximum # of entrants in an single event is less than 100...WORLDWIDE?

Ow.
 
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