Rasson Table/Mosconi Cup

I saw Steve Oaks, good Indy player, make this shot and they were bettin pretty good. I was blown away as i'd never seen it. He later showed me the shot. Still a crowd pleaser.
Steve Oaks is a bad dude, still playing great. I believe he's in his real late 60,'s early 70's and is a pleasure to watch play.
He played on our valley masters team 1 session about 20 years ago, I learned a lot from Steve that 1 session. For the record none of us were at Steve's level,never will be.
 
My Brunswick contender table with leather pockets will spit the ball back out like that. Hit the ball a little too hard with draw and it will hit the back of the pocket and bounce right out.
 
Steve Oaks is a bad dude, still playing great. I believe he's in his real late 60,'s early 70's and is a pleasure to watch play.
He played on our valley masters team 1 session about 20 years ago, I learned a lot from Steve that 1 session. For the record none of us were at Steve's level,never will be.
Back in the early/mid 80's i steered him and his road partner around some. Steve was real nice and businesslike. Nice wheels, dress good and played stronger than cat-piss.
 
Your Quote....
''Matchroom's perspective
, random stuff like that simply adds to the drama!''



I don't believe your statement without Proof that they said what you quoted is all.
Feels like a random comment.

If I'm wrong I'm wrong is all.
If you don't respond, I understand.

bm

Your posts are very strange and cryptic, but not rude, so theres no reason for me not to reply.

I'm not sure why you think I was quoting anyone, I simply said that from Matchroom's perspective, random stuff like that simply adds to the drama!

I would say it is widely accepted that Matchroom like a bit of drama in their productions (which is one reason why they are focused on 9-Ball, rather than the other American Pool disciplines), but ultimately its just an opinion, you may well not agree with it.
 
In the Navy when a ship is built they do a SHAKE OUT CRUISE. This is to determine the ships intregity and stability. When we get new cues and shafts, we practice with them some before we put them into action. Since the billiards market worldwide has taken off, new companies have been in a hurry to put their products out there without adequately testing them. I believe recently Jason Shaw quit playing in the middle of a tournament using Predator Tables? Ernesto Dominguez had to be called in PDQ to provide adjustments so that the tournament could continue. So be wary of new untested equipment-------don't expect the best-------expect the worst.
 
In the Navy when a ship is built they do a SHAKE OUT CRUISE. This is to determine the ships intregity and stability. When we get new cues and shafts, we practice with them some before we put them into action. Since the billiards market worldwide has taken off, new companies have been in a hurry to put their products out there without adequately testing them. I believe recently Jason Shaw quit playing in the middle of a tournament using Predator Tables? Ernesto Dominguez had to be called in PDQ to provide adjustments so that the tournament could continue. So be wary of new untested equipment-------don't expect the best-------expect the worst.
Those Pred. 9ft are steel-frame tables made by SAM in Spain. Basically a K-Steel with Predator trim. They can play great but setting them up can be a complete pia shitstorm. Very finicky. They did have to call ED to come get them level. A friend has played a couple Pred.ProSeries events and he said they played fine.
 
The only time I've seen this was when it happened to me on a side pocket on a Dynamo table.

Barbox of uncertain brand or vintage back in the eighties, I had a chuckle. Just two tables in the place and very close to home, I played on them both often. I was idly watching play when I saw a banger fire a ball in the side pocket ninety miles an hour. The ball went underneath the slate and popped out of the other side pocket. Rule of that bar, if the ball finishes on the playing surface that was where it stayed, legal shot.

The next day I was playing another local small time gambler on that table. I was shooting a ball from near the side to the corner, seemed like the perfect time for the under the slate shot. I fired the shot very firmly deliberately scratching in the side. The cue ball popped out of the side pocket on the other side just as the object ball had the day before. My opponent wasn't happy but the cue ball was on the playing surface at the end of the shot, no scratch! Local rules applied.(grin)

The joke was on me when I popped the five ball out of a side pocket on a snooker table. Three shots from my woulda been coulda been shoulda been only "perfect" and the ball coming out wrecked it.

Hu
 
Your posts are very strange and cryptic, but not rude, so theres no reason for me not to reply.

I'm not sure why you think I was quoting anyone, I simply said that from Matchroom's perspective, random stuff like that simply adds to the drama!

I would say it is widely accepted that Matchroom like a bit of drama in their productions (which is one reason why they are focused on 9-Ball, rather than the other American Pool disciplines), but ultimately its just an opinion, you may well not agree with it.
I just never knew or heard that that's their perspective, and you did.
 
I just never knew or heard that that's their perspective, and you did.

As I said its widely shared opinion, but an opinion all the same that Matchoom are in the sports entertainment business and therefore love drama as it appeals to the wider fan base for their various product offerings.

You have every right to hold a different opinion.
 
I had a few regulars see the Rasson from the entry way, pause and they say to hell with it, let me check the ball return.

Its a special tactical advantage to practice with one.
 
Steve Oaks is a bad dude, still playing great. I believe he's in his real late 60,'s early 70's and is a pleasure to watch play.
He played on our valley masters team 1 session about 20 years ago, I learned a lot from Steve that 1 session. For the record none of us were at Steve's level,never will be.
I remember him, Oaks during the late sixties/Varner days. Nick and I went to his room near IU and gambled, tho at that time he was not, quite as good as either of us. Tell em hi if yah see em.

bm
 
Dont get rid of ball return its great drama.

I suspect its worth having control of a ball return. No one can see how it happens, its pools Miss Universe moment, when then said the wrong name.

Most people will be puzzled for years, if they think about it. Its a good dummy check question.
WHAT?????
 
WHAT?????

I had been hooked on the stacked object ball trick shot for years.

I really practiced stacking it for a period of time more than I should have.

At first I didnt suspect it, only after a few attempts did I realize it a trick.

I turned the trick into a math question.

If I have two perfectly stacked spheres, which direction would the top one fall if gravity actually had gravitational lines to measure?
 
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Here is the video of Alcaide’s shot

Yup - just like in the other video, you can see the 7 ball hitting down in the back of the pocket and then hitting the top of the ball down in the front of the pocket before it bounces out. So - as was mentioned above - two balls in the pocket might prevent this from happening.
 
There was a shot the local fancy shot artist would show us as kids in Philly/Delaware. His name is Russel Parsons, I know a few of you would know him. Lower level pro from the 80's. He would avoid a scratch in the side pocket on cut shots with the ball near it, by jumping the CB into the rim of the pocket, so it swirled around and landed back on the slate. It's been 25 some years now, and I forgot exactly what it looked like. It's not exactly what happened in this thread, but the thread reminded me of it.

i've only had it work on soren sogard tables, a european brand. it was quite useful when i played in that joint.
 
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