Recommend me a tip installation tool.

Maniac

Maniac

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First off, I do not have a commercial lathe and do all my tips on a homemade version, which works great for shaping/sanding tips. I have always used 2-part epoxy for my tip installation jobs. It makes the turnaround on the work a day longer but I like the way the epoxy stays tacky underneath the tip therefore absorbing shock better. The only tip(s) I have ever had pop off were the White Diamond break tips, and I couldn't get them to stay on with any glue I tried. I like the epoxy too because I can center the tips on the ferrule long before the glue dries.

Now, I'm wanting to start using the Super Glue gel (speaking generically), but I need some type of tool to center the tip on the ferrule before the glue sets.

Any recommendations?

Maniac
 
captainjko said:
If your ferrule is exactly 13mm,..... good to go... Ferrule a little bigger, or a little smaller,...... not good to go...............
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You can center them with your fingers, there's' plenty of time especially if you use gel.

Use masking tape on the ferrule to catch the over drip and don't be afraid to get a little glue on your hands. Then stick your shaft under the ledge of a book shelf, window sill or something with a book under the joint end that you can slide inward to apply some pressure. Just set up the "clamp" ahead of time. Lots of spots in your home that will work. No need for a gadget of any kind.

JC
 
Maniac said:
First off, I do not have a commercial lathe and do all my tips on a homemade version, which works great for shaping/sanding tips. I have always used 2-part epoxy for my tip installation jobs. It makes the turnaround on the work a day longer but I like the way the epoxy stays tacky underneath the tip therefore absorbing shock better. The only tip(s) I have ever had pop off were the White Diamond break tips, and I couldn't get them to stay on with any glue I tried. I like the epoxy too because I can center the tips on the ferrule long before the glue dries.

Now, I'm wanting to start using the Super Glue gel (speaking generically), but I need some type of tool to center the tip on the ferrule before the glue sets.

Any recommendations?

Maniac
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Google is a terrible thing to waste

http://www.uniqueinc.com/inc/sdetail/_tipalizer__tip_centering_tool/11803/828

Dale
 
Maniac said:
I have always used 2-part epoxy for my tip installation jobs. It makes the turnaround on the work a day longer but I like the way the epoxy stays tacky underneath the tip therefore absorbing shock better.

Any recommendations?

Maniac
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Gotta beg to differ as Epoxy dries hard, and does not stay tacky unless you mixed it wrong, which usually means the tip will fall off.
As far as white diamonds coming off, it's all in the prep work. I have had VERY few come off. Most tips for breaking end up coming off mainly due to improper prep, including making sure that you sand the tip FLAT, and then face the ferrule FLAT, then put the tip against the ferrule facing and see if it rocks even slightly before gluing. Any movement will end up being the reason it pops off. The next big issue tends to be putting a white diamond, or any other hard break tip, on a crappy sleeved ferrule/ tenon combo, usually the crappy Asian import cues where they didn't even glue the ferrule on, just a press fit and it keeps shifting and popping the glue joint. I usually replace the ferrule with a full faced screwed and glued LBM ferrule at that point.
Dave
 
captainjko said:
The Willard tipping machine is one of the best tipping tools out there.. I used one for many years before I bought my lathe.... I may would sell mine for $300 or so..... New, they are about $450......

http://www.muellers.com/Willard-Tipping-Machine,437.html
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That's a nice piece of equipment, but it's more than I've spent on most of my cues. :D

I have stopped doing tips for anyone other than family or good friends. I might at most install maybe 15 to 25 more in the rest of my life. I really need something less expensive.

Maybe I should just stick to centering them by hand if someone can recommend me an adequate CA gel that has a long enough setting time for me to do this.

Thanks for the replies so far.

Maniac
 
Maniac said:
That's a nice piece of equipment, but it's more than I've spent on most of my cues. :D

I have stopped doing tips for anyone other than family or good friends. I might at most install maybe 15 to 25 more in the rest of my life. I really need something less expensive.

Maybe I should just stick to centering them by hand if someone can recommend me an adequate CA gel that has a long enough setting time for me to do this.

Thanks for the replies so far.

Maniac
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Loctite Ultra Gel....It is the only thing I use.. Walmart sells it......
 
Maniac said:
That's a nice piece of equipment, but it's more than I've spent on most of my cues. :D

I have stopped doing tips for anyone other than family or good friends. I might at most install maybe 15 to 25 more in the rest of my life. I really need something less expensive.

Maybe I should just stick to centering them by hand if someone can recommend me an adequate CA gel that has a long enough setting time for me to do this.

Thanks for the replies so far.

Maniac
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If the epoxy has been working well for you, why change? Stick to what works, and allows for you to position well, as most CA's don not allow much time, and bond almost instantly to skin which can pull a tip off while trying to let go of the tip,
Dave
 
Show us what you're working with

You say you're working with something that you made, can you give us some pictures? A lot of us make our own tooling and maybe could help you figure out a way to rig something up to help.
 
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