Refinishing affect on cue value

oneshotwiss

oneshotwiss

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In your opinion does having a cue refinished by someone other than the original maker affect the value of the cue even if it is refinished by another very reputable cue maker? My dilemma is the original maker is so swamped who knows when he could get to a refinish job
 
Even having the original maker refinish a cue may affect its value. It's only original once.

JMHO. :thumbup:
 
DogsPlayingPool said:
Even having the original maker refinish a cue may affect its value. It's only original once.

JMHO. :thumbup:
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agree for certain cues any refinish could affect value, but given that a refinish is being done, I don't think it affects the value if another reputable cue maker does the refinish.
 
oneshotwiss said:
In your opinion does having a cue refinished by someone other than the original maker affect the value of the cue even if it is refinished by another very reputable cue maker? My dilemma is the original maker is so swamped who knows when he could get to a refinish job
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Personally I wouldn't leave my cue with someone so overloaded they couldn't guarantee a finish date.

I was at a cue maker's shop one time and he took a call. He was obviously talking to someone who was very irate. He hung up the phone and said something like- the guy dropped his cue off for a refinish 4 years ago and I didn't get to it. Then after he called pissed off I went to look for the cue to do the refinish and couldn't find it.

He ended up giving the guy a different cue. He had a problem with security in his shop.

I have not found refinishes to hurt the value of most cues unless it is a true collectible, like a Balabushka, Szamboti or Rambow. In fact, a pristine looking cue will sell a lot easier than a banged up original.
 
Yeah, it is a 4 year old custom from a maker who everybody has heard of so it isn't like it is a Balabushka or something. I would never touch a cue like that no matter the condition
 
TATE said:
I have not found refinishes to hurt the value of most cues unless it is a true collectible, like a Balabushka, Szamboti or Rambow.
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When I bought a Gus Szamboti cue in 2006, I had it inspected by Barry prior to completing the deal. One of Barry's comments was that the cue had been refinished, but not by him. He said it was good quality refinish work and didn't need to be redone. Since I intended to play with the cue, I took his advice. I sold the cue 7 years later and it still did not need another refinish. The cue was really more of a player than a collectible. No problem.

When my Schick cue needed refinishing, before sending it to Mike Webb, I wrote to Little Kenny to see if he felt I was making a mistake by not sending it to Bill. He said it was not a mistake, but that I should be honest about who did the refinish. Great advice, even though I intended to be up front about it anyway. Mike's work was excellent. I was very happy with my decision to have Mike work on the cue.
 
I got a decent deal on a fairly pricey Predator many moons ago. Now, I know that this isn't anywhere close to an expensive Custom Built at all.

Ryan Rat Cue from Muellars put a refinish and a wrap on it for me. When I got it back, it looked like it came right off the rack in a showroom.

In this case, now it had much more value than it had previously.
 
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Every time I get a Meucci refinished the value goes up by $50 dollars and I

end up losing an extra $75 for the cost of the refinish....:sorry:





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It depends on the cue and the circumstances... For classics where the original maker is not available, only refinish them if if the condition can contribute to more and quicker degradation. In those cases only use those known for working on classics... For current cues, value is not as affected unless they're made by an highly sought after maker and you don't use them for the refinish...

Here's some I can recommend for classic cue restoration.. If you can get them to do it..:wink::help:

Pete Tascarella
Barry Szamboti
Dennis Searing
Paul Rubino
Joel Hercek
Bill Schick
 
skins said:
It depends on the cue and the circumstances... For classics where the original maker is not available, only refinish them if if the condition can contribute to more and quicker degradation. In those cases only use those known for working on classics... For current cues, value is not as affected unless they're made by an highly sought after maker and you don't use them for the refinish...

Here's some I can recommend for classic cue restoration.. If you can get them to do it..:wink::help:

Pete Tascarella
Barry Szamboti
Dennis Searing
Paul Rubino
Joel Hercek
Bill Schick
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I would agree with this and add a comment that IMO there are many collectible cues being needlessly refinished. I would think long and hard about the reasons to refinish and why you consider it necessary.

If the consensus in the cue market ever changes and original cues become more valuable than refinished cues, many will be sorry for exchanging a decent original cue for a bright shiny forearm with a modern wrap.

I would also direct attention to that very short list of cuemakers above. I might add a name or two but I would strongly advise people against using anyone based on price or turnaround alone. I see far too many cues damaged by faux cuemakers.
 
When I see "recently refinished" I immediately think hmmm... the cue was beat to death, not cared for.
So then I think the joint is probably loose, and it isn't original specs since some wood has to be taken off to remove the dents and nicks.
I always pass on "refinished", no matter who did the work. Too many original cues out there to buy something "refinished". just my opinion.
 
lakeman77 said:
When I see "recently refinished" I immediately think hmmm... the cue was beat to death, not cared for.
So then I think the joint is probably loose, and it isn't original specs since some wood has to be taken off to remove the dents and nicks.
I always pass on "refinished", no matter who did the work. Too many original cues out there to buy something "refinished". just my opinion.
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Some cues...you will never know they were refinished.

Some come out better than new.



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lakeman77 said:
When I see "recently refinished" I immediately think hmmm... the cue was beat to death, not cared for.
So then I think the joint is probably loose, and it isn't original specs since some wood has to be taken off to remove the dents and nicks.
I always pass on "refinished", no matter who did the work. Too many original cues out there to buy something "refinished". just my opinion.
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A lot of cases thats not true. Some are very anal and just like their cues to look purdy... Some times it's because the original makers finish was sub par and the owner just wants it better... As far as there being too many original cues out there well there are a lot of cues out there but when your looking for a specific type cue it can be like finding a needle in a haystack so when you see it you may buy it regardless...
 
Refinishing EFFECT...... on value.


Affect verb, effect noun.

The storm knocked down power lines, affecting several thousand people.
The regulator has estimated that its new rules will affect up to 11.3pc of borrowers.
--
Gauging the disaster’s effect requires assessing economic activity.
But the smell of freshly baked bread may have positive effects far beyond the obvious ones.
 
skins said:
Im not sure Hoot ...If it's used as a verb in this instance...
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I was referring to the title, where effect is the proper noun, not a verb. The post was fine, where affect was used as a verb.

Either way, I would agree with your list of cuemakers to refinish a cue. I also think Bob Frey has a lot of experience.

All the best,
WW
 
9Ballr said:
Refinishing EFFECT...... on value.


Affect verb, effect noun.
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True, but not so fast. Effect can be a verb as well, as in, to effect a change.

Yours for correct spelling and grammar on AZ.

Yea, like that's sumptin that'll ever happin...
 
WildWing said:
True, but not so fast. Effect can be a verb as well, as in, to effect a change.

Yours for correct spelling and grammar on AZ.

Yea, like that's sumptin that'll ever happin...
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9Ballr said:
Refinishing EFFECT...... on value.


Affect verb, effect noun.

The storm knocked down power lines, affecting several thousand people.
The regulator has estimated that its new rules will affect up to 11.3pc of borrowers.
--
Gauging the disaster’s effect requires assessing economic activity.
But the smell of freshly baked bread may have positive effects far beyond the obvious ones.
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Something which may help you both in life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vf8N6GpdM
 
ElLeon said:
Something which may help you both in life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N4vf8N6GpdM
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Don't need help... I know what I meant... I took the title as abbreviated and truncated.. A better title would have been, (DOES) Refinishing AFFECT cue value.. To make it sound better the title could have read Refinishing(s) EFFECT on cue value... May not be grammatically correct but it fits with the use of effect...


Skins ------------- hated English class
 
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