Just curious, did you enlist in the military while the Vietnam war was still going on, because I did! So, did you?
Irrelevant to your attempted stolen valor.
Just curious, did you enlist in the military while the Vietnam war was still going on, because I did! So, did you?
Just curious Glen. Where did you do your Basic and Advanced training? I went through at beautiful Ft. Polk, LA in 1967. Over 200 in my company of 220 men got deployed to Nam next. I was one of the lucky ones who didn't.The draft ended in 73' yet I still volunteered and joined the Army in March 74' so yes, I volunteered to put my life on the line for my country! Did you????
And I didn't go in as a cook, or supply specialist, I joined the combat arms division of the Army, again. did you sign up???
The draft ended in 73' yet I still volunteered and joined the Army in March 74' so yes, I volunteered to put my life on the line for my country! Did you????
And I didn't go in as a cook, or supply specialist, I joined the combat arms division of the Army, again. did you sign up???
There is no dishonor in having been a Vietnam ERA vet who didn't serve in country. And yes the stateside folks were vital to the whole logistical support of the guys in country. But that wasn't the same as the guys in-country who were at physical risk.
And I never will, because it is completely irrelevant to anything in this thread. I'm well acquainted with your tactics.I asked Kissedout the same question, he hasn't answered yet either!!
But there is dishonor in saying you served in country when you didn't.There is no dishonor in having been a Vietnam ERA vet who didn't serve in country.
But there is dishonor in saying you served in country when you didn't.
But there is dishonor in saying you served in country when you didn't.
Yes, I know.It is known as stolen valor.
Actually, you didn't.Just curious, did you enlist in the military while the Vietnam war was still going on, because I did! So, did you?
Good accurate history lesson.Actually, you didn't.
The draft ended in 1973 for a reason. So, in essence, you joined after the Paris Peace Accord was signed over a year earlier. Two months later, and one year, before you joined, they began withdrawing all US troops. American POW's were being released at the same time. By March of 1973 all POW's were released and back on US soil. The war was essentially over for the US.
Heck, Congress even passed an act forbidding the Nixon Administration from getting involved at a later date. Just in case anyone wanted to get "frisky" again, it was not going to happen. Nixon ended it, but Congress wanted to ensure it stayed ended. This was March of 1973. Kissinger won the Nobel Peace prize before the end of 1973. For all intent and purposes, it was over. The US still sent minimal supplies and some non combat technical experts but that was pretty much it.
So, anyone joining the army in 1974 would NOT see combat, would NOT be sent to Vietnam, and per law passed by The Congress and signed by the President in 1973, the only way anyone was going to Vietnam in 1974 would be by defecting from the USlol.
Don't blame me. They banned political discussions in NPR, so I saw my opening here and took it![]()
But there is dishonor in saying you served in country when you didn't.
And WHO said i did?But there is dishonor in saying you served in country when you didn't.
April 29, 1975Actually, you didn't.
The draft ended in 1973 for a reason. So, in essence, you joined after the Paris Peace Accord was signed over a year earlier. Two months later, and one year, before you joined, they began withdrawing all US troops. American POW's were being released at the same time. By March of 1973 all POW's were released and back on US soil. The war was essentially over for the US.
Heck, Congress even passed an act forbidding the Nixon Administration from getting involved at a later date. Just in case anyone wanted to get "frisky" again, it was not going to happen. Nixon ended it, but Congress wanted to ensure it stayed ended. This was March of 1973. Kissinger won the Nobel Peace prize before the end of 1973. For all intent and purposes, it was over. The US still sent minimal supplies and some non combat technical experts but that was pretty much it.
So, anyone joining the army in 1974 would NOT see combat, would NOT be sent to Vietnam, and per law passed by The Congress and signed by the President in 1973, the only way anyone was going to Vietnam in 1974 would be by defecting from the USlol.
Don't blame me. They banned political discussions in NPR, so I saw my opening here and took it![]()
Ft. Lenardwood, MO basic, and Aberdeen Proving Grounds, MD AIT.Just curious Glen. Where did you do your Basic and Advanced training? I went through at beautiful Ft. Polk, LA in 1967. Over 200 in my company of 220 men got deployed to Nam next. I was one of the lucky ones who didn't.
Marine Security, not combat folks, that were sent to protect embassy and assisted other non military personnel out of the country at the time a rocket attack struck the area prior to the fall of Saigon. The US was not fighting but it didn't stop the others. Some non combat folks got stuck in the cross hairs.April 29, 1975
Charles McMahon (May 10, 1953 – April 29, 1975) and Darwin Lee Judge (February 16, 1956 – April 29, 1975) were the last two United States servicemen killed in Vietnam during the Vietnam War. The two men, both U.S. Marines, were killed in a rocket attack one day before the Fall of Saigon
There was never a "pool idea", just sayingDuring the 6 or 7 years I wasn’t here has this type of shit been going on the whole time?
You guys never ran out of things to argue about? How is that possible? We went from a pool idea to a war just in this thread. Amazing
"Combat" status or not, when the bullets start flying you better duck. We may have officially pulled out of Afghanistan, but there is a good reason they just sent 5,000 troops (with more to come) to evacuate our Embassy personnel there. If it wasn't a dangerous military mission they could have sent 500 men and not five battalions of battle ready troops. I have no doubt there will be conflicts with the Taliban in the days ahead and American troops may die. If anything, by turning tail and running we have emboldened the Taliban. They would like nothing better than to give us a rousing send off. You know like a 21 gun salute, right on the Embassy.Marine Security, not combat folks, that were sent to protect embassy and assisted other non military personnel out of the country at the time a rocket attack struck the area prior to the fall of Saigon. The US was not fighting but it didn't stop the others. Some non combat folks got stuck in the cross hairs.
So, the facts still remain the same. Unless you were planning on joining the Marine Embassy Guard School (very difficult to get into) and the fact you would also need MP experience before that, you were NEVER going to Vietnam. Ever.
If you are going to inflate your contributions to the war, I suggest you read a little Stephen Ambrose who is one of the premiers writers on the subject as well a well regarded historian on US history and international relations.
You joined after the war ended. So, stop taking bows. It's undignified at this point.
That's the point. Combat status or not, Glen was NEVER going to be in Vietnam. He joined after the war ended and Congress put their stamp on not getting back involved. Some security folks were inadvertently killed trying to protect those leaving Saigon. Glen had ZERO chance of going to Vietnam and he knows it. He just can't shut his big mouth long enough to realize he's acting like a fool."Combat" status or not, when the bullets start flying you better duck. We may have officially pulled out of Afghanistan, but there is a good reason they just sent 5,000 troops (with more to come) to evacuate our Embassy personnel there. If it wasn't a dangerous military mission they could have sent 500 men and not five battalions of battle ready troops. I have no doubt there will be conflicts with the Taliban in the days ahead and American troops may die. If anything, by turning tail and running we have emboldened the Taliban. THey would like nothing better than to give us a rousing send off. You know like a 21 gun salute, right on the Embassy.