How in the world does Cory pocket I assume the 8 and leave Shane a tough bank on the 9?
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Really? My bad for sure then. And I apologize to Cory. Dang it SVB!
Yep, driving me nuts over here. LOL.
Got it. Edited OP. Terrible shot though
I think Shane meant to have more draw on it and slide past the nine. There's so much pressure here it's hard to imagine. I know in the tourneys that I play in, I do things when I get tight from pressure that I would never do otherwise. When you play scared, you're going to make those stupid mistakes you wouldn't otherwise.
All this shows is that they're human and it takes the Mosconi cup pressure to initiate these types of mistakes from the best.
I mean that previous rack was crazy how scared they were playing. Both Gorst/Filler AND Shane/Corey.
Jaden
The pressure of scotch doubles format is so different than a one-on-one match, but still no excuse for what sounds like a completely unforced error for a player or players at this level.
On to doubles in Match 2.
Filler/Gorst break and run in rack one to take a 1-0 lead over SVB/Deuel.
Rack 2 was a tug of war dictated by the fact that the three ball was tied up in knots. Filler played what appeared to be an excellent safety on the three, sending the three uptable and leaving the cue ball on the bottom rail, but the ball went into the side, so it was back to safety play. Europe earned the first shot, but Filler's miss brought SVB to the table. Shane made the five but scratchds. With ball in hand, Gorst made the five nine combo to close out the rack and Europe took a 2-0 lead in this match. It was a missed opportunity for Team USA in this rack for sure.
Very pretty run out by Europe in Rack 3. Gorst misplayed shape onto the seven, but a masterful long two rail inside english follow by Filler restored order, and Europe took a 3-0 lead.
Deuel broke dry in rack 4, Gorst played safe on the one ball, but it was a poor shot, leaving SVB a look at the one ball. SVB played a solid safety from there, The rack then became a comedy of errors by both sides, but Shane's miss of the eight resulted in a snooker as the eight got just the right carom of the side pocket point, and when Europe failed to kick it in, it was a fitting end to a bizarre rack of nine ball.
Europe won the first tree racks and US the fourth. I think I've seen this before.
Rack 5 began with Deuel's miss of a near hanger on the two, but it went in a different pocket. SVB's safety was just barely passable, and safety play continued. Filler missed an easy three and SVB's effort is again only so-so. Deuel's safety on the three ball is excellent, but Filler jumps his way out of it. SVB tries to jump in the three and misses. Gorst makes another error, followed by a Deuel error in which he double kisses on an attempted safety. More misses ensue, but it is Team USA that ultimately prevails in what was surely one of the worst played racks in Mosconi history.
In Rack 6, a really wild shot by Deuel opened the door for Team Europe, and Filler/Gorst ran it out impressively for a 4-2 lead. Glad to see some better pool at this point.
In rack 7, SVB and Deuel are successful running up to the eight, but SVB only leaves Corey a tough bank on the nine.. Corey misses it on the pro side, leaving Gorst tough, but Fedor is up to the long bank, edning the match 5-2, and typing the Mosconi Cup at 1-1.
So far, the climactic moment in both matches was a long bank by a Mosconi rookie.
This match was, quite simply, a stinker, in which all four players made many errors.
Finally, I think I'm going to be sick of these commentators don't stop making excuses for the players as we must all endure this unusually poor play. while taking it in stride. Unlike every other year, these players didn't get here by playing good pool during the months leading up to the Mosconi Cup, so the commentators should just grin and bear it.
Filler/Gorst break and run in rack one to take a 1-0 lead over SVB/Deuel.
Rack 2 was a tug of war dictated by the fact that the three ball was tied up in knots. Filler played what appeared to be an excellent safety on the three, sending the three uptable and leaving the cue ball on the bottom rail, but the ball went into the side, so it was back to safety play. Europe earned the first shot, but Filler's miss brought SVB to the table. Shane made the five but scratchds. With ball in hand, Gorst made the five nine combo to close out the rack and Europe took a 2-0 lead in this match. It was a missed opportunity for Team USA in this rack for sure.
Very pretty run out by Europe in Rack 3. Gorst misplayed shape onto the seven, but a masterful long two rail inside english follow by Filler restored order, and Europe took a 3-0 lead.
Deuel broke dry in rack 4, Gorst played safe on the one ball, but it was a poor shot, leaving SVB a look at the one ball. SVB played a solid safety from there, The rack then became a comedy of errors by both sides, but Shane's miss of the eight resulted in a snooker as the eight got just the right carom of the side pocket point, and when Europe failed to kick it in, it was a fitting end to a bizarre rack of nine ball.
Europe won the first tree racks and US the fourth. I think I've seen this before.
Rack 5 began with Deuel's miss of a near hanger on the two, but it went in a different pocket. SVB's safety was just barely passable, and safety play continued. Filler missed an easy three and SVB's effort is again only so-so. Deuel's safety on the three ball is excellent, but Filler jumps his way out of it. SVB tries to jump in the three and misses. Gorst makes another error, followed by a Deuel error in which he double kisses on an attempted safety. More misses ensue, but it is Team USA that ultimately prevails in what was surely one of the worst played racks in Mosconi history.
In Rack 6, a really wild shot by Deuel opened the door for Team Europe, and Filler/Gorst ran it out impressively for a 4-2 lead. Glad to see some better pool at this point.
In rack 7, SVB and Deuel are successful running up to the eight, but SVB only leaves Corey a tough bank on the nine.. Corey misses it on the pro side, leaving Gorst tough, but Fedor is up to the long bank, edning the match 5-2, and typing the Mosconi Cup at 1-1.
So far, the climactic moment in both matches was a long bank by a Mosconi rookie.
This match was, quite simply, a stinker, in which all four players made many errors.
Finally, I think I'm going to be sick of these commentators don't stop making excuses for the players as we must all endure this unusually poor play. while taking it in stride. Unlike every other year, these players didn't get here by playing good pool during the months leading up to the Mosconi Cup, so the commentators should just grin and bear it.
That might be a slight exaggeration. a couple of millimeters in either direction and it would've nudged the nine perfectly towards a pocket. It was unnecessary but understandable given the circumstances.
Jaden
That match was the worst I've seen in a long time from both sides.... only reason Filler/Gorst won that is that as bad as they played Corey and Shane outdid them.
Part of its nerves, but I think a lot is this very fast tight table getting inside their heads.
Part of its nerves, but I think a lot is this very fast tight table getting inside their heads.
Wrong Joey
Fair enough. But like you said, as CJ says, a touch of inside would have likely given a shot on the 9 ball in any of the six pockets
KAci wins first rack 1-0 Kaci
Rack 2.
Good safe by Robinson. Kaci jumps at it but misses, leaving Robinson a shot at the 1
Over run position slightly on the 5 and gets tough on the 6. He makes a nice shot on it and finishes off the rack to tie it up.
Good safe by Robinson. Kaci jumps at it but misses, leaving Robinson a shot at the 1
Over run position slightly on the 5 and gets tough on the 6. He makes a nice shot on it and finishes off the rack to tie it up.
Reading this thread, I’m having a little trouble figuring out what Joey (I assume referring to assistant captain Joey Gray) has to do with a match in progress?
Rack 3
1 and 6 fall, but a he has a tough cut on the 2. Timeout for wildlife on the table.
CR makes a nice shot but over runs position again and leaves a steep angle on the 3...which he promptly misses and leaves Kaci a wide open runout.
2-1 Kaci
Kaci looks really solid
1 and 6 fall, but a he has a tough cut on the 2. Timeout for wildlife on the table.
CR makes a nice shot but over runs position again and leaves a steep angle on the 3...which he promptly misses and leaves Kaci a wide open runout.
2-1 Kaci
Kaci looks really solid
he was commentating on the last doubles match
And was Joey offering advice or what? OK, I get it now. He was referring to the commentator Joey Barnes, not Joey Gray, the US team assistant captain.
Probably irrelevant, but are the side pocket folds done differently? Or just really tight? Looked different on the stream. I do not have a picture either.