Repair prices

Chris Byrne said:
Hey, prices are going up for everything! Repairs will have to go up as well. I have not raised my repair prices in several years but am working on new ones right now due to my increased cost of shop operation.
As for some people saying someone charges too much, There are alot of factors that determine cost. Plus supply @ demand controll price. When I have to pay someone to do work of anykind for me I am far more concerned with quality than price. I am a firm believer in you generally get what you pay for.
Just curious what everyone charges for the list below

linnen wrap $40
leather $100
stack leather $150
refinish cue W2 shafts $150+ Depending on cue and wrap
replace warped handle $150+
bent joint pin $40
butt cap $40+
joint collar $40+
extra shaft $150+ depending on ring work
Thanks for all the replies,even the guy who called me a thief,i guess if they want to arrest me they all know where i live so i cant hide,seriously tho im a little cheaper on stack leather $125.00,leather $90.00,the guy just picked up his cues,i gave him a buddy discount,hes happy,he told me the other cue guy now charges $55.00 for a instaled morri tip,hes a very busy cuerepairman so i guess hes doing something right.I just had to put a new furnace in my shop,my good friend the gasfitter charged me $300.00 plus parts for 11/2 hr work,that was $300.00 cheaper than 2 other quotes i got.I dont know what that has to do with the price of cue repairs but it must fit in there somewhere.It sounds like were kind of all in the same ballpark
 
HDR10 said:
$200.00 on 3 tips!!!!!!!!!!
Id be rich in a month(or atleast be able to buy an actuall cue making lathe)
instead of a repair lathe
EDIT::even for 5 tips Id be tickled

I read the post as $200.00 for 6 tips. That seems fair if they are top end tips.
 
i agree. if i thought i was doing for too cheap id raise prices. however sometimes when i see someone doing moori's doe 45 or 50$ and getting them time after time it makes me wonder. i am lucky. i have a pool room full of mostly loyal ppl who knows the can call or just come over and i do it. on the other hand i can never just play pool without 101 questions. price of doin bidness i guess :D :D :D
manwon said:
Dave I don't think it is a question of not charging enough or of charging to much. I charge in my opinion what is fair, and that is all that I am concerned with. I have no problem making money at the prices I charge, and the state I live in is high rent. My goal from the beginning was to offer repairs for a price anyone could afford, and I have no problem finding work to do. Since we all basically buy materials from the same suppliers, unless we buy in very large quantities the price of these materials are basically the same.

My repair work in my opinion is very good, and I have a very large customer base that spans the entire state of Washington. Now, I do the best possible job that I can do on all repairs that I except, however, I have found people that just can't be satisfied no matter what like everyone else. However, these cases are very few, and I have built a business and a reputation that I am proud of and that makes my customers, customers for life. This not only includes repairs, but also retail sales of production cues and cases, along with other Pool and Billiards merchandise.

Now, I am not hating anyone for making as much as they feel they deserve for their work. Each of us have the right to charge whatever we feel is right, and this will be based upon experience and location I would assume.

However, I have no problem making money doing repair work for what I charge, in fact I am certain that there is more money in repairs than cue building for most of us any way. At the end of the day for me it all comes down to how I sleep at night, and I sleep very well.:smile:

Take Care
 
dave sutton said:
i agree. if i thought i was doing for too cheap id raise prices. however sometimes when i see someone doing moori's doe 45 or 50$ and getting them time after time it makes me wonder. i am lucky. i have a pool room full of mostly loyal ppl who knows the can call or just come over and i do it. on the other hand i can never just play pool without 101 questions. price of doin bidness i guess :D :D :D

I totally agree with you, $40 or $50 for a tip that costs $8. I am happy doing these tips for $25, and I have something more important than anything money can buy, and thats Peace of Mind.

Take Care Dave:D
 
manwon said:
I totally agree with you, $40 or $50 for a tip that costs $8. I am happy doing these tips for $25, and I have something more important than anything money can buy, and thats Peace of Mind.

Take Care Dave:D
I think if you own or work out of a pool hall it works to your advantage to do things as cheap as you can,guy comes in gets a tip on,plays some pool,buys food and drink,may even buy a cue,it is good buisness practise.I think its different for others,just my opinion,whatever works
 
I guess it is always what the market will bear. I usually charge $15 for LePro, Triangle. $30 for Moori Sniper everest. $15 to $20 to clean and seal shaft in addition to any tip replacement. $15 for a ferrule or more in case there is issues such as tenon replacement. I raised my min to $15 just to cover added expenses such as gas and booth fees. Obviously I have some "friends" always ask, "what are you gonna charge me?" heavy emphasis on me. lol Kids I usually treat real cheap as I think it is good for the game and it really brings back the parents. Given more than one kid a cheap players or rage cue and a one by one case when their parents just spent $500 on a cue at my booth. I always keep the cheap 8 ball and 9 ball keychains at my booth and promo them out to the kids and charge the adults $3 to cover my costs.
 
almer said:
I think if you own or work out of a pool hall it works to your advantage to do things as cheap as you can,guy comes in gets a tip on,plays some pool,buys food and drink,may even buy a cue,it is good buisness practise.I think its different for others,just my opinion,whatever works

You are certainly right, we all have to do what ever works for us. There is certainly nothing wrong with making money either, however, in the long run being fair will get you more business than being overly expensive. Repairs have to be based on the cost of materials and the labor required to complete the repair. Unless you are a famous Cue maker that has an impeccable reputation the price of our labor should be basically be the same for Good Quality repairs.

But, I could care less what anyone charges, because in the long run, the person who does Quality work, and has reasonable prices will have more business and make more money, it is just simple economics.

Take Care
 
manwon said:
I totally agree with you, $40 or $50 for a tip that costs $8. I am happy doing these tips for $25, and I have something more important than anything money can buy, and thats Peace of Mind.

Take Care Dave:D
Wow. You can still get Kamui and Moori tips for $8. Don't guess you want to share your source?
 
manwon said:
I totally agree with you, $40 or $50 for a tip that costs $8. I am happy doing these tips for $25, and I have something more important than anything money can buy, and thats Peace of Mind.

Take Care Dave:D

So if I'm doing these tips for $45 that means I'm not allowed to have peace of mind?
 
BarenbruggeCues said:
So if I'm doing these tips for $45 that means I'm not allowed to have peace of mind?

Whatever floats your boat, I am only concerned with my own peace of mind. You and every one else are the only ones who have to live with your actions. I could care less how anyone else justifies what they do, when they do it, or how they do it, so long as it doesn't effect my life or the lives of my family.

Like I said in another post, quality work and a fair price will bring all the business most repairmen would ever want.

Take Care
 
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cueman said:
Wow. You can still get Kamui and Moori tips for $8. Don't guess you want to share your source?

I will contact you the next time I have an order shipped from South Korea, most likely around the end of the year.

However, I do not handle Kamui Tips, but I do carry a number of other layered tips that know one else carries. The Tips that 1pRosco was selling are some of my import tips.

Take Care
 
my rule of thumb is i do a tip for 15$ plus cost of tip. i order all tips from atlas. le pro elkmaster and triangle are free just 15$. i think im under 8$ for sniper and everest and at 9$ for moori. i also started using wizard tips at roughly 5$ a tip they are great. just like moori IMO.

i also dont jack up my ferrule prices. i do a ferrule for 25$ plus cost of tip. lepro triangle elkmaster are free once again
 
dave sutton said:
my rule of thumb is i do a tip for 15$ plus cost of tip. i order all tips from atlas. le pro elkmaster and triangle are free just 15$. i think im under 8$ for sniper and everest and at 9$ for moori. i also started using wizard tips at roughly 5$ a tip they are great. just like moori IMO.

i also dont jack up my ferrule prices. i do a ferrule for 25$ plus cost of tip. lepro triangle elkmaster are free once again

Why do you not make a profit on the tips? I have about $3000 worth of tips in my shop and I expect for that investment I should make money on the tips besides my labour. If I buy a tip for $10 I expect to sell the tip for $20 plus get paid to install it. I can not think of another business that sells product for what it costs them. That appears to me, to be a sure way to go bankrupt.
 
bob_bushka said:
I guess it is always what the market will bear. I usually charge $15 for LePro, Triangle. $30 for Moori Sniper everest. $15 to $20 to clean and seal shaft in addition to any tip replacement. $15 for a ferrule or more in case there is issues such as tenon replacement. I raised my min to $15 just to cover added expenses such as gas and booth fees. Obviously I have some "friends" always ask, "what are you gonna charge me?" heavy emphasis on me. lol Kids I usually treat real cheap as I think it is good for the game and it really brings back the parents. Given more than one kid a cheap players or rage cue and a one by one case when their parents just spent $500 on a cue at my booth. I always keep the cheap 8 ball and 9 ball keychains at my booth and promo them out to the kids and charge the adults $3 to cover my costs.

Tap! Tap! Tap!
 
Eveyone is different and we cant all charge the same. I feel my time is worth a certan amount and someone may feel there time is worth less or more. There is nothing wrong with the price as long as it stated and agreed apon. If you start to loose bussiness in the future im sure you will make the adjustments. I personly dont charge that for tips and such but I have just been doing this for about two years so you cant expect me to charge the same as someone who has been doing it to say 10 years. Experence counts.
 
Mase said:
Why do you not make a profit on the tips? I have about $3000 worth of tips in my shop and I expect for that investment I should make money on the tips besides my labour. If I buy a tip for $10 I expect to sell the tip for $20 plus get paid to install it. I can not think of another business that sells product for what it costs them. That appears to me, to be a sure way to go bankrupt.
Thats kinda my way of thinking also,$8.00 for tip,everybody in buisness has a markup,usually 30 to 100 %,ive been doing repairs for 15 yrs,no advertising,no tournaments,im as busy as i want to be,i sometimes have to turn down repairs that i cant get to so i must be doing something right,i slept 10 hrs last night except for trip to bathroom,its hard to be old
 
I charge 10.00 for a standard tip installation which includes all solid tips ( Elk Master, Triumph, LePro, Triangle and water buffalo). 15.00 for any Chandivert. 20.00 for Talisman, 25.00 for all other layered tips but Kamui and Morri which are 30.00. I clean, polish and steam all dent from a shaft for an additional 5.00. My tips are guaranteed for the life of the tip. This means that if a tip comes off 5 years down the road I replace it for free. If any tips delaminate I also, of coarse, replace for free.
I could easily charge more to put on a tip but 10.00 for about 2 minutes work is expensive enough I feel. I charge so much more for the layered as they are more expensive to replace if there is a problem. A clean and polish takes five times longer to do than install a tip but I feel that I'm making enough on the tips to pay for it.
I don't know how many tips a lot of you guys do but when I was doing the repair for a few of the rooms around the city I was doing over 3,000 tips a year.

Dick
 
i make the profit on my work. i make a small profit but i dont rob ppl. im not doing this to get rich. i have a fulltime job. i love to do this. i pay 750 for an everest. 25$ for th job. $15 for the install $7.50 for the tip and $2.50 profit on the tip. good enough for me. i make $17.50

i also dont stock a ton of tips. you say you have $3k in tips. thats fine for you. i personally dont want 1500$ worth of dry rotted leather if they arent stored correctly. if i order tips i can have them in 2 days. i know when im getting low. i order
 
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