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our_auctionguy said:
I once purchased a stock 2x2 of some Quilted maple that was as vivid as the one you have in your cue. When I took it to another cuemaker in Florida, he told me it was a waste because it was Broadleaf maple and would be too soft for a playing cue. This cue maker is well respected in his domain and had made copies of very fancy Szambotis for a couple Szamobti owners I know that are long time professional players who say he knows wht he is talking about. I was very disheartened because I was excited and ready to pay to have the cue made to my specs with that beautiful wood, but he completely put it down and did not want to work with it saying I would not be happy with the hit and he did not want to make a cue that wasn't made out of a true hardwood.

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From another board that discusses soft vs hard maple:
source: http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=37186

one Poster :
Yeah they're different species, but as Chris said they all fit into the Acer family. My understanding is that most hard or rock maple is from the Sugar Maple (A. saccharum), but other eastern hard varieties can fall into that loose catagory. Out where I live soft maple is almost always Western Bigleaf Maple (A. macrophyllum). On the East coast I'm not sure what they market as soft maple.

second Poster:
As far as figure goes, out here the big leaf variety (A. Macrophyllum) is where you get most "quilted" maple. "Birds eye" and "fiddleback" are mostly out of sugar (hard) maple. I believe that while most people call maple either hard or soft there is quite a difference in hardness between eastern soft maples and big leaf maple.
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Is this why you don't see a lot of quilted maple cues out there, or was he totally full of it??

BTW, you do nice work and those wraps are very cool.
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Well, let me start by saying that is my quilted maple cue and it is amazing. If I am not mistaken the wood is treated with something that is pressed or impregnating the wood and that makes it hard. I do know too much about how long it is treated or the amount of pressure it takes to do it or the chemical for that matter, but I do know that it feels as good as it looks. If you still have the blanks send one to Eddie to look at. With the price of custom made cues these days you really can not go wrong with him. Especially if you live local because you can take advantage of his custom tuning process.
 
our_auctionguy said:
I once purchased a stock 2x2 of some Quilted maple that was as vivid as the one you have in your cue. When I took it to another cuemaker in Florida, he told me it was a waste because it was Broadleaf maple and would be too soft for a playing cue. This cue maker is well respected in his domain and had made copies of very fancy Szambotis for a couple Szamobti owners I know that are long time professional players who say he knows wht he is talking about. I was very disheartened because I was excited and ready to pay to have the cue made to my specs with that beautiful wood, but he completely put it down and did not want to work with it saying I would not be happy with the hit and he did not want to make a cue that wasn't made out of a true hardwood.

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From another board that discusses soft vs hard maple:
source: http://www.sawmillcreek.org/showthread.php?t=37186

one Poster :
Yeah they're different species, but as Chris said they all fit into the Acer family. My understanding is that most hard or rock maple is from the Sugar Maple (A. saccharum), but other eastern hard varieties can fall into that loose catagory. Out where I live soft maple is almost always Western Bigleaf Maple (A. macrophyllum). On the East coast I'm not sure what they market as soft maple.

second Poster:
As far as figure goes, out here the big leaf variety (A. Macrophyllum) is where you get most "quilted" maple. "Birds eye" and "fiddleback" are mostly out of sugar (hard) maple. I believe that while most people call maple either hard or soft there is quite a difference in hardness between eastern soft maples and big leaf maple.
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Is this why you don't see a lot of quilted maple cues out there, or was he totally full of it??

BTW, you do nice work and those wraps are very cool.
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Actually, Quilted Maple is a very lightweight burl wood in it's "natural state" weighs about as much as balsa does...

So in order to stabilize it and acheive the maximum beauty and practicality of this beautiful wood, it's sent off to a specialist who hydraulically compresses expoxy resin into it, this in turn gives the wood a very dense weight equivalent to cocobolo and ebony...

Then the forearms must be cored and plugged with a standard maple dowel to reduce weight for counterbalance purposes... This is whole process is time consuming as well as somewhat expensive to stabilize the wood becasue it has to be done by the pound... so this unfortunately justifies the price increase when selected.

And thankyou very much for the compliments on my work !



Sincerely, Eddie Wheat
 
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Eddie, I checked out your homepage. I think you're doing a great job, but (and I want to keep this as positive as possible) I think you aren't as informed about cuemaking as you might want to be if you're going to keep statements on your site like:

"I am the ONLY professional full-time cuemaker "completely custom fitting 2-piece cues to the customers exact specifications " in the industry, and that is the primary concept I am marketing myself on."

Though it's true that there aren't many, you're not the only one. So, I would suggest to change the statement to, "I'm one of the very few..."

The world of cuemaking has grown so rapidly in the past few years that it's impossible for newer cuemakers to know what other newer cuemakers are up to, have done, etc. I've met an annoying cuemaker out of Chicago that would have you believe that he's the only cuemaker that puts in the attention detail that he does. I'm sure you'd take exception to that.

Regards,

Fred Agnir

P.S. do you have some other cue website.?I feel awfully funny looking at your MySpace!!!
 
WheatCues said:
Actually, Quilted Maple is a very lightweight burl wood in it's "natural state" weighs about as much as balsa does...

So in order to stabilize it and acheive the maximum beauty and practicality of this beautiful wood, it's sent off to a specialist who hydraulically compresses expoxy resin into it, this in turn gives the wood a very dense weight equivalent to cocobolo and ebony...

Then the forearms must be cored and plugged with a standard maple dowel to reduce weight for counterbalance purposes... This is whole process is time consuming as well as somewhat expensive to stabilize the wood becasue it has to be done by the pound... so this unfortunately justifies the price increase when selected.

And thankyou very much for the compliments on my work !



Sincerely, Eddie Wheat
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So he was right, but you have found a way to make use of it in cue building. Thanks for being informative on the subject. Very interesting. As you can see by all the oooohs and aahhhs over the quilted maple, you might be onto something few cue makers have ventured into. That should work nicely for you as well. Sounds like an expensive process, but if it sells well and does the job, you should have no problems selling a few more of those. If you build it, they will come.
 
Cornerman said:
Eddie, I checked out your homepage. I think you're doing a great job, but (and I want to keep this as positive as possible) I think you aren't as informed about cuemaking as you might want to be if you're going to keep statements on your site like:

"I am the ONLY professional full-time cuemaker "completely custom fitting 2-piece cues to the customers exact specifications " in the industry, and that is the primary concept I am marketing myself on."

Though it's true that there aren't many, you're not the only one. So, I would suggest to change the statement to, "I'm one of the very few..."

The world of cuemaking has grown so rapidly in the past few years that it's impossible for newer cuemakers to know what other newer cuemakers are up to, have done, etc. I've met an annoying cuemaker out of Chicago that would have you believe that he's the only cuemaker that puts in the attention detail that he does. I'm sure you'd take exception to that.

Regards,

Fred Agnir

P.S. do you have some other cue website.?I feel awfully funny looking at your MySpace!!!
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I thankyou for your insight and suggestive advice... at the time when I researched the industry I was the only one at the time...and to date I haven't heard of anyone else who is offering EXACTLY what I am offering the customers...

However, I feel that your request is warranted and makes logical sense... no one in this industry should be considered an eliteist and I can see where others might perceive me as that with my context and think otherwise....

So I will adjust the the pre-existing statement to your suggested paraphrasement....

I appreciate your advice and taking a look at my work.. but unfortunately my sight still isn't completed by my endorsers to date so I am forced to give you a direct slideshow link to view some of my recent playing and b/j cues I have built over the past year !

Here's the link:

http://www.slide.com/r/ynHAAYrl2z98HJwXMAgU1KMADNw-BGGF

Let me know what you think ???




Sincerely, Eddie Wheat
 
WheatCues said:
Here's the link:

http://www.slide.com/r/ynHAAYrl2z98HJwXMAgU1KMADNw-BGGF

Let me know what you think ???




Sincerely, Eddie Wheat
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It's a start. Great wood choices. Leaves us wanting more.

BTW longtime internet poster Sheldon Lebow is a full-time cuemaker from the West Coast who has made a reputation for building cues 100% to the customer's specifications, wants and needs. That would include secret compartments, 70" cues, as well as the first cuemaker that I know of that made a three equal piece travel cue that could actually played with the correct balance and feel.

Fred
 
Cornerman said:
It's a start. Great wood choices. Leaves us wanting more.

BTW longtime internet poster Sheldon Lebow is a full-time cuemaker from the West Coast who has made a reputation for building cues 100% to the customer's specifications, wants and needs. That would include secret compartments, 70" cues, as well as the first cuemaker that I know of that made a three equal piece travel cue that could actually played with the correct balance and feel.

Fred
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Thanks for your kind words !!!

That's funny you mentioned the three equal piece cue being built back in the 70's...

I just had one of my longtime cue repair customers inquire about me building him a 3-piece equal length custom cue so he can take it with him when traveling by air instead of checking it into baggage.. this way he has a decent cue to use instead of taking his expensive 2-piece and risk damage or loss !

I have built one before several years ago and it turned out great ! the customer still uses it to this day when traveling....

Just thought I would share that with you !



Take Care, Eddie Wheat
 
Pics of latest cue I finished for a "local" !

This Birdseye w/ Curly Maple handle is another basic priced cue designed 100% by the customer to deliver performance w/ a subtle natural look without having to spend alot of $$$ to obtain it !

It was built exclusively to Mitch Brockert's armspand and balanced for a combined 51-1/2" armspand and stroke range....

Another completely satisifed customer !!!

"I must be something right !"

I appologize for the quality of these photos is very poor... I shot them in a hurry without proper lighting....


Mitch's cue.jpg

Mitch's cue 1.jpg


Sincerely, Eddie Wheat
 
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shinobi said:
Nice looking cue, Eddie. Simple and natural. Got any more pics of it?
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Yes but they are even worse... I shot over 9 of them in a hurry and their terrible, a couple are out of focus !

He lives down the street from me so I will get the cue back from him in the next couple of days and actually take some properly lighted photos of it and repost the pics on this thread.

The cue's very light stain is really nice becasue I sanded most of it off after applying it so only the grain is accented and the rest natural...


Thanks for the compliment !




- Eddie WHeat
 
Omen's leather wrap work makes my cues look much better !

These are a few pics of a local's cue I built recently with the newly installed leather wrap I thought I'd share with you all !

I personally think the leather sets it off the cocobolo quality tremendously !!!

gigi 281.jpg IMG_0284.jpg gigi 280.jpg



- Eddie Wheat
 
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color corrected pic of birdeye/curly maple cue

This is much more of a realistic photo as far as the natural color goes...

The previous pics of this cue were way too green and pale !


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- Eddie Wheat
 
contact email

hi,

i tried to send a pm but the box is full..

is there an email address i can use ?

thanks
kam
 
WheatCues said:
I cleared my PM's

Also, my address is: cuesmith1@yahoo.com

My # is: 321-631-1827 if you want to call anytime !



Thanks, Eddie Wheat
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tried calling but i guess since i am calling from overseas, the number doesn't show up and the call does not connect...

email sent.

thanks
kam
 
Pleasant thread!

Wow, Hope I don't jinx it, but this has been a great thread.

Pleasant conversation and great pictures of some very nice work!

Way to go Eddie!
 
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