Rick Chudy/ what do you think of this design?

iconcue said:
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why would he owe you an apology? :confused:
you were promoting your inventory for your business in the cue gallery!
you had made a promise in the past that you would not do that!
now you are doing it again by posting on this thread and bringing it back to the top. and then you drop the name of your customer to boot! LOL!
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Icon's avatar is "jam up". NICE........
 
This is just my opinion but, despite its beauty, I think the red backdrop took away from this cue a little. However, I think I did the cue one justice, if you will. In the second photo posted of the butt section (very first post, Bill), the cue appears to be ebony, ivory, and the inlays reflect the red! That I found very striking. The silver (whatever it may be... malachite, m.o.p., tough to tell from the pictures) just kind of dulls it out in my eyes.

Rick's designs do appear to be quite innovative at times. Other designs however (the one sided veneer), leave quite a bit to be desired. Again, jst my opinion. But still, Bill. Nice cue.
 
iconcue said:
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why would he owe you an apology? :confused:
you were promoting your inventory for your business in the cue gallery!
you had made a promise in the past that you would not do that!
now you are doing it again by posting on this thread and bringing it back to the top. and then you drop the name of your customer to boot! LOL!
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The cue was sold!!! how can i sell a cue that is already sold!! or promote it! and i waited to answer, jimbos comment until I had aproval from my customer, so the people could not say exactly what i expected you to say!there was no promoting,I thought it was a beautiful cue abd I wanted peoples opinion on the cue , not people picking a fight --well iam off to the glass city to promote my product correctly!!!!! :cool:And also I pay for promotion at the top banner , so at least i dont do it for free here on site--szamboti,bushka.mottey,ginacue,schick,cantando. hours of pool a week ? you got to be kidding!
 
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cornerstone said:
jim, I do not have one of the sidded veneer.and in my opinnion. what makes a cue maker is (consistancy in hit) and ricks cues all play consistant! because rick will not let one out of his shop unless it played great! and every once in a while there is that cue that just plays JAM UP, over and above a great playing cue!! and this is one of them! when i was talking to rick about choosing a cue for my site even rick said that this cue plays incredable! and the gentleman, collector,strong player luan ngyun call me today
to let me know how jam up it played. As for your comment that iwas telling people how well it played for a sale ,in the post previously ,I stated that a sale was already pending!so you my friend were wrong in calling me out as to my motive for saying that . and i dont have to push a cuemaker or cue for a sale because the cues i choose to sell ,sell themselves. and I have a 7 day guarntee that if you dont like the cue you buy from me, for any reason i will buy it back in the same condition. including if you dont like how it plays! that is why iam sooo picky as to what put on my site!! I have been apoligetic in the past to you when i open me mouth before my brain is engaged! and i believe one should be comming my way. thank you jim you keep us all on our toes! ;)
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Hey Jeff I'd certainly apologize if I felt I had a need to, I guess you missed my point. I also like that cue and it may even hit good, but you can't help yourself and your used car salesmanship. As I said hit is subjective, no matter what you say or what your buyer says doesn't have any bearing on my point, I may hate the way it hits. My point is you say that about every cue and I doubt very seriously that you even hit with all the cues you try to sell, and even if you did it would still only be your opinion. Your claim that you just wanted to get our opinions is bullshit, you posted the pic told us how great the cue was and how great it hits. Just once Bill try to leave the salesman act home, as you pointed out you aren't the only one, but it is tired.

Jim
 
cornerstone said:
forearm, and bruin I will disagree highly these are true funcctional works of art! and this cue plays jam up!!but i asked for your opinoin
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Very nice cue nice case it looks like, also
 
Bruin70, I strongly disagree with your comments regarding the construction of the cue. If you don't like the design, no big deal. I've seen many cues from various makers, and RC3 cues have always been on the edge, and I consider him to be in the same league as McWorter and Thomas Wayne.

I would agree that this is not one of his best designs, but the craftsmanship is excellent, even if all he does is engraving. Many other cuemakers use engraving to get minute details in their cues. Personally I like scrimshawn work in ivory.

Personally, my favorite RC3 cue is the Cavalier, and the two posted in this same forum a few weeks ago. One was probably about 80% ivory.
 
cuenut said:
Bruin70, I strongly disagree with your comments regarding the construction of the cue. ivory.
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the intention of my comments were related to the effectiveness of the design(gold/chudy/josey etal) , not the CONSTRUCTION of the cue itself. a purely subjective judgement.

in regards to the construction, i have no problems with it at all. i happen to like plain janes. i think they hit great. best SW's i've ever played with were plain janes. these cues are plain janes with inlays. there are no spliced points. so, in fact, i happen to like this type of construction. i was told even tad inlays his points, but i never bothered to find out for myself. maybe someone here knows.
 
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bruin70 said:
the intention of my comments were related to the effectiveness of the design(gold/chudy/josey etal) , not the CONSTRUCTION of the cue itself. a purely subjective judgement.

in regards to the construction, i have no problems with it at all. i happen to like plain janes. i think they hit great. best SW's i've ever played with were plain janes. these cues are plain janes with inlays. there are no spliced points. so, in fact, i happen to like this type of construction. i was told even tad inlays his points, but i never bothered to find out for myself. maybe someone here knows.
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Although Rick makes cues from plain to fancy to works of art, the construction is essentially the same in each, so they have a very consistent hit from cue to cue, regardless of the amount of time spent on the artwork. The small variables in the hit would be due to the tip, joint, and choice of woods used in the forearm. The flat-faced wood/cored construction is the same. I have hit with a number of his cues, plain and fancy and they are extremely consistent due to the basic design construction he uses.
 
JimBo said:
Hey Jeff I'd certainly apologize if I felt I had a need to, I guess you missed my point. I also like that cue and it may even hit good, but you can't help yourself and your used car salesmanship. As I said hit is subjective, no matter what you say or what your buyer says doesn't have any bearing on my point, I may hate the way it hits. My point is you say that about every cue and I doubt very seriously that you even hit with all the cues you try to sell, and even if you did it would still only be your opinion. Your claim that you just wanted to get our opinions is bullshit, you posted the pic told us how great the cue was and how great it hits. Just once Bill try to leave the salesman act home, as you pointed out you aren't the only one, but it is tired.

Jim
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Jim once again your ignorance shines thrue,that coarse exterior , continue doing what you do best and that is brining out the worst in people. you pick fights for no reason, and slam every body but the ones kissing your a$$. You are a true statment to yoursel!keep doing all that you do , but i will not give in to it . see you at the derby! Bill
 
cornerstone said:
Jim once again your ignorance shines thrue,that coarse exterior , continue doing what you do best and that is brining out the worst in people. you pick fights for no reason, and slam every body but the ones kissing your a$$. You are a true statment to yoursel!keep doing all that you do , but i will not give in to it . see you at the derby! Bill
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Bill, you are undoubtedbly the most shifty, underhanded, salesmany some-biaatch out there, but it seems to work. Keep on doing what you're doing brother !! LOL :)

See you at the Derby...and too bad we couldn't get the side room to ourselves. That would have been the ultimate den of awesome cues with all our stuff in there !!!

BTW, this Chudy is real nice, but not my cup of tea. I'm more in like with a few folks that have posted here. His Cavalier design is more suitable to my personal tastes.

Sean
 
cueaddicts said:
Bill, you are undoubtedbly the most shifty, underhanded, salesmany some-biaatch out there, but it seems to work. Keep on doing what you're doing brother !! LOL :)

See you at the Derby...and too bad we couldn't get the side room to ourselves. That would have been the ultimate den of awesome cues with all our stuff in there !!!

BTW, this Chudy is real nice, but not my cup of tea. I'm more in like with a few folks that have posted here. His Cavalier design is more suitable to my personal tastes.

Sean
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sean , seems like we are shady crafty used car sales men,< I think you matt and "rabbitboy' jeff. are great people to deal with, and apperantly we b are grouped by jimbo together, But with company like you guys Iam proud to be lumped together with you guys your great company! BTW is this the forsale area? oh well here it goes! JUST GOT RICKS NEW CAVALIER!!! 5900.00 ANY TAKERS PRICE FOR ALL AZERS!!THIS ONE IS EBONY IVORY AND MOP 19.1 OZ 2-13MM SHAFTS AND UNPLAYED!!!!
 
bruin70 said:
i was told even tad inlays his points, but i never bothered to find out for myself. maybe someone here knows.
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Yes he does but you would never know it. They're flat beautiful..

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bruin70 said:
",,,my favroite cues of all time ( sale Pending) tell me what you think?"
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it is the price cuemaking has payed with advanced cnc/computers....like movies' overdependence on cgi instead of storyline.
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Bruin,
I want to ask you a serious question.. if I programed a computer to "paint" a picture, would the art world call it art? I am talking a brush in a collet, telling the computer to "dip" and to "paint". Would YOU view it as art?

Just curious...

Joe (---BTW its a nice cue.
 
classiccues said:
Bruin,
I want to ask you a serious question.. if I programed a computer to "paint" a picture, would the art world call it art? I am talking a brush in a collet, telling the computer to "dip" and to "paint". Would YOU view it as art?

Just curious...

Joe (---BTW its a nice cue.
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anything can be considered art, but its validity varies with different people.

would I? ,,,,if someone does what he thinks is creative and feels he is producing art, i'm not going to argue with him and say no it ain't. that would be imposing MY sensibilties on him. even though i may think it sucks or that it has no place next to a painting. hell, he might be making 10x more than me next year and the whole art world might think he's the next picasso.

yet every piece of "art" in its abstract form should rely on some design sense in order to bring cohesiveness to the piece. what makes such a task almost impossible today is that "art" has been deconstructed to the point where such guidelines are frowned upon.....have been for a long time. i even read somewhere of a movement that proposes that elemental skills in design and drawing are no longer valid. i cannot relate to this, so i choose not to participate in this fallacy.

if i sound wishy washy, it is intentionaly so. art is subjective. which is why i only gave an opinion, and have not tried to argue a point. it's one thing to say i don't like,,,it's another to say you're wrong.

ps,,,specific to your question, even if a person uses a computer, HE still has to input all the parameters and schemes, though i don't have to like it. but my opinion of the cue was not based on whether or not it was done by computer, but ONLY the design itself. ernie uses cnc, and i like his stuff
 
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