Rofl @ Earl Ipt Challenge Match

[jason]

Not all all. I've only met him a few times. But there is such a thing as respect. I don't get a kick out of pointing out someones flaws when they knowlingly have a mental disorder that causes it and are doing what they can to remedy it. I guess you call it a character trait of mine.

Respect is earned not given, my friend. Earl has earned respect for his game, but that is as far as it goes with me.

I've never heard of a mental disorder for being a jerk. What, may I ask, is he doing to remedy it?

P.S. I get sick of people defending poor behavior just because they are good at something. There are a ton of example in the sports world.

 

[cheesemouse]

an example of why I love the pearl. He tells it like it is. If this match were taking place in a real pool hall the rail birds would be in Archer's $hit to JUST SHOOT MAN...

 

[Neil]

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[jason]

As much as you post here, how can you have missed the myriad of threads about Earl. How he most likely is bi-polar, he does take meds, has recently had them adjusted to work better, ect.

If someone is just a jerk, fine, they are a jerk. But when it is public knowledge that they do have a disorder that does cause the tantrums, then why must so many keep pointing out his problem??? We all know it is there. What do some gain by making fun of him??? It sure doesn't make the one doing it look any better. And only hurts the one with the problem. I see nothing good that can come from it.

I truely was unaware that he is bi-polar and taking meds for it. How I've missed it, I don't know. I will look at Earl in a little different light now.

Thanks for the info.

 

[Moon Cricket]

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Same thing happened to me when trying to view a Ray Martin video. I just asked them to refund my money since that was the only video i wanted to see. Their customer svc is good.


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[Roadkill]

Their customer svc is good.

Agreed. I sent an email about the problem and received this response with a couple of minutes:

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[cuedoctor]

Think of any sport that lets you take for ever to play

I hate to say this but if you have ever been to the us open and watched a Archer match you better pack a lunch,he's a great player but one of the slowest you will ever see,sure...Earl maybe should have said nothing but at least he has the balls to say what needs to be said..LOL Happy Birthday EARL
Football..delay of game penalty
Basketball...same thing tchnical foul
Golf...slow play..stroke penalty
tennis...slow play end of match
baseball....play ball or your outa here
pool.....pick up all the lint,cig brake,pottie time,cell call,time out to shark ....its all ok take as much time as you like

 

[Terry Ardeno]

Not all all. I've only met him a few times. But there is such a thing as respect. I don't get a kick out of pointing out someones flaws when they knowlingly have a mental disorder that causes it and are doing what they can to remedy it. I guess you call it a character trait of mine.

Neil,
I'm also with you on this. Big difference between good natured woofing and kidding around vs trying to play "blast the pro" for rep points.

I was also a little surprised with Jason's "another Earl azzkisser WE have here" comments.
First, because prior to that, I enjoyed many of Jason's contributions here. And second, the "we" part seems like a vain attempt to gather some back-up so as to thwart any "heat" directed towards him. That comment just seemed uncalled for. Then, a few posts later, Jason showed lots of CLASS by explaining himself, and I respect him a lot for that. And Jason, this post of mine is NOT directed to you or anyone in particular. If it was, I'm not shy about addressing someone directly. This is just MY OPINION ONLY on how people should treat others.

One last time. The pro players are every bit as human as the rest of us. No better, but certainly no worse either. Taking every chance to humiliate them, or castigate them, or try to paint them in a less than favorable light reflects more on that poster than to the targeted pro player.

Whether it was Earl or Grady or Keith or Sigel or Freddy or Billy or any of the other pros, it makes no difference. The more this stuff continues, the less pros we'll eventually have contributing here. And to be sure, they should not just have a free pass or be immune to criticism. But, when is enough enough?

One more thing....I love joking around and kidding around. Making good natured fun of the pros, like those in the "Why did the chicken cross the road?" thread are harmless and funny. They're not something that would wound of be hurtful. Believe it or not, there IS a big difference in a person's "INTENT" in what they post. And that is always reflective of someones character or lack thereof.

The video was a neat snapshot of what sometimes goes on in matches. I don't think either Johnny or Earl should get the electric chair for running their mouths. That they DID is what made that video unique. But, believe it or not, that happens all the time, all over the world. It's not something that occurs only in Earl's matches. And it happens in every sport, not just pool. I've yet to see video of Earl in a fistfight like you see on Sports Center with baseball teams or hockey, or football. Is there even ONE poster here who has not ever said or done something they wish they could take back? Is there any one of us here who has a trait that we're not proud of and wish we could overcome?

How about if all of our bad moments were YouTubed for everybody to armchair quarter-back? Is everybody here proud of everything they've ever said to their wife or kids, family or friends?

I never liked the "kick 'em while their down" mentality.

 

[poolcuemaster]

Earl is right about johnny slow playing and lint picking for sure, Johnny has been warned in Mosconi cup and world championships for doing this on purpose to throw off an opponent. It is sickening to watch Johnny and Soquet do this crap anytime they play Earl, Ralf took three trips around the table with a three ball easy out against Earl at the US Open on the tv table. I'll be running the shot clock tommorow evening on the slower tables at the tournament in Charlotte NC and I wish Earl would have been invited, Earl would be very hard to beat playing on a 30 second shot clock.

Leonard

 

[Roadkill]

Earl is right about johnny slow playing and lint picking for sure, Johnny has been warned in Mosconi cup and world championships for doing this on purpose to throw off an opponent. It is sickening to watch Johnny and Soquet do this crap anytime they play Earl, Ralf took three trips around the table with a three ball easy out against Earl at the US Open on the tv table. I'll be running the shot clock tommorow evening on the slower tables at the tournament in Charlotte NC and I wish Earl would have been invited, Earl would be very hard to beat playing on a 30 second shot clock.

Leonard

I'm driving up tomorrow. What time does play begin?

 

[Milo]

One of the most entertaining players on this earth!!!! And No Invite!!!!!

Earl is right about johnny slow playing and lint picking for sure, Johnny has been warned in Mosconi cup and world championships for doing this on purpose to throw off an opponent. It is sickening to watch Johnny and Soquet do this crap anytime they play Earl, Ralf took three trips around the table with a three ball easy out against Earl at the US Open on the tv table. I'll be running the shot clock tommorow evening on the slower tables at the tournament in Charlotte NC and I wish Earl would have been invited, Earl would be very hard to beat playing on a 30 second shot clock.

Leonard

Maybe somebody will know the answer to my question.
WHY IN THE HELL WASNT EARL INVITED!!!!!!!!

 

[jason]

I was also a little surprised with Jason's "another Earl azzkisser WE have here" comments.

As I said before, I get sick of people who condone poor behavior just because they are good at something. I see this a lot around controversial people. For many of their "groupies" for lack of a better description this is the most attractive characteristic not the their talents.

As being directed toward Neil, I was wrong and I apologize. He seems like a very nice guy.

This is just MY OPINION ONLY on how people should treat others.

I agree people should treat people with respect and kindness, but then why do so many defend Earl when he doesn't do the same to others? This is a double standard.

...The pro players are every bit as human as the rest of us. No better, but certainly no worse either. Taking every chance to humiliate them, or castigate them, or try to paint them in a less than favorable light reflects more on that poster than to the targeted pro player.

Earl has painted his own picture. I'm not trying to humiliate his in anyway besides he's better at it than me.

The video was a neat snapshot of what sometimes goes on in matches....
... Is there even ONE poster here who has not ever said or done something they wish they could take back? Is there any one of us here who has a trait that we're not proud of and wish we could overcome?

Yes, this does go on in matches but usually by amateurs. We all know Earl likes to play fast and Johnny plays slow. If Earl didn't like the slow play, he should have asked for a shot clock, but right out sharking when someone is down on their shot is wrong. We all know pool proper pool etiquette.

I never judge a man on one act alone. Earl has a long, long history of this conduct. At what point is enough, enough or too much? I call it the way I see it. I don't play politics. If I did, I would say something like, "He is very entertaining, his antics make me laugh!" Which they do! As in all good conflicts, you need an antagonist and a protagonist. Earl plays that part.

As far as being bi-polar, I wasn't aware of this. I do know this is a real condition. I had a friend from high school, an honor role student, who was diagnosed as bi-polar. He has been in an out of jail because of it and I have experienced his mood swings myself. I'm not sure to what extent this effects Earl and not giving him a free ticket, but I will reconsider my criticism of him in light of this new information.

My intention was never to make fun of someone with a disorder but to expose bad behavior for exactly what it is. I would go on a KT rant, but I will save it for another thread.

Thanks for your comments Terry. I hope this clears the air somewhat.

 

[Peer]

Is there even ONE poster here who has not ever said or done something they wish they could take back?

Well, I've NEVER said anything in my life that I regret, (except for this very comment, that is).

-- peer

 

[powerlineman80]

I mentioned something about Strickland using Cuetec's cues as his downfall and was ripped about it. I was only joking about it, as I read somewhere where he said it. Its funny that I'm sure Strickland had shot with a Cuetec before he signed to see what life would be like so its nobodies fault but his own.

It was good to see Johnny shut him up. I think Johnny can take him in a deathmatch

 

[powerlineman80]

Earl is right about johnny slow playing and lint picking for sure, Johnny has been warned in Mosconi cup and world championships for doing this on purpose to throw off an opponent. It is sickening to watch Johnny and Soquet do this crap anytime they play Earl, Ralf took three trips around the table with a three ball easy out against Earl at the US Open on the tv table. I'll be running the shot clock tommorow evening on the slower tables at the tournament in Charlotte NC and I wish Earl would have been invited, Earl would be very hard to beat playing on a 30 second shot clock.

Leonard

I dont think I've seen Johnny play on t.v. where he DIDNT lint pick on the table, and he wasnt playing Earl. So I dont see how he is picking on poor ol Earl by doing it when he does it ALL THE TIME. I love how everyone hates Earl, but its only Earl bringing it on himself. I wished he would shut up and just shoot pool, because he has the talent to get himself back on top. The more b.s. he does the more the crowds will try to get a response out of him, etc.

 

[Neil]

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[Thecoats]

Not all all. I've only met him a few times. But there is such a thing as respect. I don't get a kick out of pointing out someones flaws when they knowlingly have a mental disorder that causes it and are doing what they can to remedy it. I guess you call it a character trait of mine.

I this not another form of pointing out someone's flaws

-don

 

[Fast Lenny]

I can say after meeting Earl he is a great guy who loves the game,he lives and breathes it,I will psot a video up soon of him in a lighter mood,its really something to behold.He cant help how he is,I know mental disorders as I have been around people who are like that,people who are and were very close to me.I was talking to Earl about his stroke and I said something along the lines of it being 1 in 6 billion and was amazed at his stroke,he thought I was being sarcastic and got all pissy,this happens with people who are bi polar.

My ex was bi polar and she would be ok one minute and alitte wacky the next and it didnt take much to set it off,she would think you were talking badly or take yoru words the wrong way and its pretty scary when people get like that because they can go off.

I feel bad for Earl and hope he gets the help that he needs,when people are quiet and dont bother him he can play some great pool.If someone taunts him or something is going on Earl mind takes it to another level whether what is going on is meant to shark him or is not,its what he is percieving.

 

[Fast Lenny]

He is! If you don't believe me, you can ask my daughter---

Why hello, there.I have absolutely no idea what is being discussed here, or why anybody would think that my father is not as nice as he truly is, but I will vouch for him anyway. He is a wonderful guy and terrific billiards player. Have fun with your threads.
~Jennifer
PS: I wrote all of this of my own accord, I was not forced to say any of it.

Neil- isn't it great to have kids that know how to suck up!

How much did you pay her to say this Neil?

 

[Terry Ardeno]

I agree people should treat people with respect and kindness, but then why do so many defend Earl when he doesn't do the same to others? This is a double standard.

Jason,
That whole post of yours was a good "rebuttal" and a nice read.

The one thing I would like to "clear up" without beating a dead horse is the part I included in your quote that I have in this post.

I have seen Earl in person, not on an Accu-stats, treat everybody around him with much respect and kindness. I first met him in Valley Forge, then in Northfield, Ohio, then three more times at Valley Forge. I never once seen him be rude to anyone, fan or opponent. He was very gracious and seemed sincerely humbled by the people wanting his picture or to chat with him. He was great with everybody and everybody swarmed him every time I saw him. He signed or posed for photos with everybody who asked. He was smiling, funny and pleasant. In his matches, he shook hands before and after, and often said "good shot" when an opponent made a difficult shot. And by the way, everybody I ever saw him play against in person also treated him kindly as well.

When I very first met him, he thanked ME for "being a fan of mine." Here is a 6 time World 9 Ball Champion, a 5 time US Open Champion and one of the greatest players EVER thanking me for asking him about his life.

***The only times I have ever seen "the bad Earl", as he's often called, is when somebody agitates him or eggs him on. And it's only been on tape. We've all seen how he acts in the Mosconi Cup and the World Championships, where there are some in the crowd who bait him. Earl STILL can't just tune them out. He's compelled to act out in return and THERE is where all the flack comes from.
I haven't seen him start an argument without having first been baited.

As for this "sharking" of Johnny, well, Johnny has glared at people who have flash-bulbed him while he was shooting. Johnny Archer is a lot like Buddy Hall, in that their table demeanor is ultra serious. Keith, Scotty Townsend, Alex are at the other end of the spectrum. They woof it up, kid around, etc. Johnny had Earl in his wedding to Melanie. They're pals. They definitely don't hate each other.

So, my long winded bottom line point is that Earl has so many loyal fans who hold him in high regard not only for his pool ability but also because he most definitely knows how to treat people with respect and kindness.