Ok. Next time I am someplace with a 6x12 and I am able to set up the camera I will try and see how it goes. I haven't played more than a few frames on them since the 90s but I will be happy to embarass myself trying to get $50
Ronnie O'Sullivan
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Ok. Next time I am someplace with a 6x12 and I am able to set up the camera I will try and see how it goes. I haven't played more than a few frames on them since the 90s but I will be happy to embarass myself trying to get $50
TheThaiger
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This is a great post, for a variety of reasons. I don't think people realise how good the top players have been over the past 20 or so years. Everyone got used to gradual improvement in the standard of play, and assumed that would continue forever, but I genuinely think we've had a period of freaks coming together all at once, and are now in a phase of slow decline. The UK as a snooker powerhouse has certainly peaked, and I can't see a next generation of superstars to replace the last. The Chinese have been trying to breakthrough en masse for a while now, but have made little impact so far (Ding remains irrelevant to that, for obvious reasons).
Compare your stats to those on this forum that claim to have 7/8/9/10 packages and tell me there is a discussion.
We should start calling things as they are: snooker is a professional sport for the very best cueists, whilst pool is an amateur game anyone can enjoy and have success at.
That is so completely backwards and opposite of the truth it is not even funny. The most pressure a pro snooker player ever has is on the last few reds and colors of a potential 147. They are an accomplishment that is extremely highly acclaimed and professional snooker players covet them greatly. Watching Cliff Thorburn on his 147 to this day is nail biting.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vh2NOS9HH-w
No pressure? Yeah freaking right!
TheThaiger
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There are good (and obvious) reasons for this.
TheThaiger
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Agreed. I was surprised a Brit made that comment TBH. And I have no doubt Ronnie thinks 'maximum' at every available opportunity, from ball one in most cases.
The boy is box office and he knows it.
I think of all the pool games straight pool is more akin to snooker.
Having to split the pack probably more than once in a rack.
Getting position on the object ball to split the next rack, similar to snooker in getting good position on the black to split the reds.
Probably why Stuart Pettman did well on the first time he tried straight pool.
I love to try a practice routine on a pool table ( larger the better) where you would use the black
8 ball the same as the black in snooker and re spot it when potted.
So you can pot any ball first but then must pot the 8 ball and keep alternating until all the balls
are potted with the 8 being the final ball.
You would have to maintain good position to stay on the 8 and use it to split the rest of the balls.
Having to split the pack probably more than once in a rack.
Getting position on the object ball to split the next rack, similar to snooker in getting good position on the black to split the reds.
Probably why Stuart Pettman did well on the first time he tried straight pool.
I love to try a practice routine on a pool table ( larger the better) where you would use the black
8 ball the same as the black in snooker and re spot it when potted.
So you can pot any ball first but then must pot the 8 ball and keep alternating until all the balls
are potted with the 8 being the final ball.
You would have to maintain good position to stay on the 8 and use it to split the rest of the balls.
TheThaiger
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John, John, John...
High precision? Ronnie was less than half a ball away from perfect position for 36 consecutive shots. You are welcome to try it. Even the monstrous kick on the blue lead to perfect position on the pink - now THAT is genius.
Mark Selby made the 100th 147 in the 2013 UK Championship and won 55,000 pounds (a rolling £5,000 per event accumulator pot) plus second price money £70,000.
Total £125,000
With his second prize in the tournament he made nearly as much as the winner, Neil Robertson - £150,000.
Both players pulled down more than $200,000.
But the fabulous pool players don't want to play the easier game and get a slice of all that money.
Back in snooker's golden years the prize offered for a 147 could be more than for winning the tournament.
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TheThaiger
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Rubbish. I don't bet, as you know, but I'll break the habit of a lifetime and offer you $100 if you can make a 50 break in snooker from open play, and have video up by the end of the week. To be clear, on a competition 6x12 table with pro cut pockets. Fail to do it in a week and you owe me $100.
Deal?
TheThaiger
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I should have finished reading the thread before offering my own (Barton-esque) challenge. To be honest, I've had to pick myself up from the floor, which I became better acquainted to, on learning Barton is a regular 50 breaker.
I'm assuming it was a typo.
TheThaiger
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Do you know what modesty is?
Ironic. Some of us know modesty and humility. That wouldn't include you. Ever.
Ronnie made a true accounting. Based on his finish in the IPT events, he was spot on.
I worked in a pool hall when I was young and played snooker more than I did pool for the first couple of years and have NEVER seen ANYONE come CLOSE to running a 147.
I have ran numerous packs of 9-ball on occasion, but was NEVER able to run more than around 90 points playing snooker and that was only ONCE. I have ran into the 60s many times, but that was about the highest I was able to ever run with any sort of "consistency".
Snooker and pool are two DIFFERENT animals and are HARD to compare.
I have ran numerous packs of 9-ball on occasion, but was NEVER able to run more than around 90 points playing snooker and that was only ONCE. I have ran into the 60s many times, but that was about the highest I was able to ever run with any sort of "consistency".
Snooker and pool are two DIFFERENT animals and are HARD to compare.
You are kidding. No pressure?
There was a 12,000 pounds (almost USD $20,000) prize for the maximum break.
Last year Mark Selby scored 55,000 pounds (over $90,000) for his maximum break in the UK Championship.
That's pressure - even if the frame is already won.
Keep in mind, you are comparing match accomplishments to individual game accomplishments. At the world tournament last year the only chance to run 150 and out started in the last 32. From there until the finals, there were probably less than 50 matches played. According to cuetracker.net, there were 724 frames played during the welsh open in a total of 127 matches.
Another look at cuetracker indicates Ronnie has played 8970 frames in his career, and of those frames he has made 12 maximums and 727 centuries.
A more comparable accomplishment in snooker to the 150 and out or 7 pack, would be making 5 centuries in a best of 9 match (also accomplished by Ronnie) or the record of 556 unanswered points (also Ronnie lol).
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JB you said "147 is easier than many lesser breaks", this why I asked if you can make the black four times in a row with 30 or 40 deg angle after a red each time. Black is the hardest color on the table it only got half pocket, where as all other colors have full pockets when in their spot.
I wish people that didn't understand snooker would keep their comments to themselves.
Wise words at last!
Sense at last lol!