Safeties

kanzzo said:
... This is the compilation of these standard safety shots (coming up all the time in 10-Ball):

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That's a great video for a student to view with the same idea that you used -- pause and try to predict how to play the safe.

I think some of the patterns are not so good for someone who doesn't have such good speed control. If the shot is off a little it may leave an easy shot or return. The correct play sometimes depends on the skill of the player. Other situations the leave is sure to be relatively safe if it's a little off.
 
Quesports said:
Safeties are one of the strongest moves you can use to gain control of the table.

I would like to discuss how to practice and play better safeties.

Are there and safety drills to practice? Is there safety games to play with another player?

I know they are a part of my game that could use improvement so any information or thoughts are appreciated!
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Black-Balled said:
I'll restrict my comments to rotation games, coz there are specialty 1p/ 14.1 shots that defy expectations and are hangers if recognized and executed with appropriatalitationess.

I'd literally only suggest practiceing two safes:

A- thin OB and send CB in/ out of corner to stick onto other ball
2. Thin OB and send CB one rail to stick onto other ball.

A good sense of those two wil provide a practically infine set of responses to tough situations.
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Wow....the biggest word of the year.
 
Thank you to all that shared their knowledge. Happy to say I have some homework to me.

Time to get to work!
 
Black-Balled said:
I don't understand how introducing a push out assists with safety play?
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Playing push out can teach a player to find the safety, then push to a location that you don't think your opponent will see or be able to execute the lock up safety. Of course I would have to execute it if given back.
So maybe Rewards a good safety game over Assisting the safety play. 🤷‍♂️
 
Black-Balled said:
I absolutely have.

Why again should you not shoot from the lie you're presented with while I must?
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You can ANYTIME roll out, even with the presented shot.
You learn allot about your opponent/thru his choices and it's why in 79, I beat Earl Strickland four sets, races to 11 on a 9'.
He could definitely.... outshoot me, but his board play was his demise.
He made many bad choices over 6-7 hrs of play.
Cost em 2K, allot of money 45 yrs ago.
 
David in FL said:
Not quite.

Sorry, I guess I didn't explain it very completely initially.

In mine you can shoot and make a ball to keep shooting until you work your way intentionally to a spot where you can play a good safe. I do that because there are a lot of times when that opportunity comes up in an actual game and it's part of managing your way through the game.

Only safeties resulting in ball in hand score a point though, not pocketed balls.

Once you're down to the last ball in the rack, rerack, break and continue the game.

I also allow jump cues, because in league or tournament play they are likely to be allowed and people need to learn that simply putting a blocking ball between the Q ball and the object ball may not qualify as much of a safety anymore.

Again, race to whatever you want.
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I like the ball pocketing aspect and it works your game management. I've realized a lot of my poor results are exacerbated by poor game management. And safeties will get harder as fewer balls are on the table.

The kick safe game is certainly a test of skill, but is not particularly entertaining as a game.

Black-Balled said:
So if you never miss your turn goes on infinitely and you don't score any points toward a win?
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If you never miss, why do you need to work on safeties? In a normal game of 9 ball, you can play safeties forever and never sink a ball if you want.
 
Island Drive said:
You can ANYTIME roll out, even with the presented shot.
You learn allot about your opponent/thru his choices and it's why in 79, I beat Earl Strickland four sets, races to 11 on a 9'.
He could definitely.... outshoot me, but his board play was his demise.
He made many bad choices over 6-7 hrs of play.
Cost em 2K, allot of money 45 yrs ago.
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Unlimited pushes? Really? Sounds thrilling.

And I guess you just knocked yourself for the NPR list, lol.
 
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