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Searing cues???
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subdude1974 said:What is the deal with Searings and being overpriced as hell? I just dont get it. Dont get me wrong, he makes a hell of a cue but WAY overpriced for what ou get. I dont see paying what people are asking when you can get a nicer cue for less,i.e. Scruggs,Cochran,Mottey,White,etc. Is it just because he decides to do it like a hobby(IMO) and only put out like 10 cues a year if that many. Again, not knocking the craftsmanship. I have seen some beautiful cues of his but no plain 4 pointer from a modern cue maker is worthy of 6000. I think you got to be crazy or just have more money than you know what to do with if you pay these kind of prices. Agree or disagree. Just looking for some enlightnement.
The demand for them determines the market value. Kind of like these ladders...
DS might be pound for pound the best cuemaker today.
In a word....Hype.
When someone can illustrate via science what makes his cues superior to others, then maybe he will be the next stradivarius. Until then, he makes a nice cue along with dozens of other less expensive cuemakers.
When someone can illustrate via science what makes his cues superior to others, then maybe he will be the next stradivarius. Until then, he makes a nice cue along with dozens of other less expensive cuemakers.
Gotta agree
Gotta agree with you guys that it's a supply and demand thing + hype. Kinda like people paying $1200 for a Sony Playstation 3. Don't get me wrong,
I'm sure DS only puts out perfectly executed cues but I can think of some other cues I'd prefer for $6K.
Gotta agree with you guys that it's a supply and demand thing + hype. Kinda like people paying $1200 for a Sony Playstation 3. Don't get me wrong,
I'm sure DS only puts out perfectly executed cues but I can think of some other cues I'd prefer for $6K.
Supply and demand. Coupled with hype and bragging rights.
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subdude1974 said:
Not sure what Dennis sells his cues for, but the big price jumps are usually in the aftermarket. However, he does make some very good cues. Naming a dozen cues that play as good or better is no easy task.
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Can you share those dozen names?subdude1974 said:
You know if I can get a cue that hits as good as a Searing for the third of the price, I'd really be interested.ribdoner said:Not even if I stutttterrrred
Joey,JoeyInCali said:
"hit" is subjective. I've played with over 100 different cuemakers, some have "played" better than others, some have "looked" better than others, but I've come across at least 20 cuemakers that made an outstanding cue. The fit and finish were perfect. I've played with a Searing and thought it was Ok, not great, but OK. For me, it's a no brainer, I'll take the 20 other cuemakers before I pay 6k for a Searing.
Doug
hmmm
Of course 'hit' is totally relative so I think this arguement is kinda senseless.
But if I had $2K to put towards a cue and my primary demand was 'hit' these are some choices I would look into (in no particular order):
Scruggs
Capone
Southwest
Lambros
Phillipi
Mottey
White
McDaniel
Tad
Josey
JossWest
Runde
Of course 'hit' is totally relative so I think this arguement is kinda senseless.
But if I had $2K to put towards a cue and my primary demand was 'hit' these are some choices I would look into (in no particular order):
Scruggs
Capone
Southwest
Lambros
Phillipi
Mottey
White
McDaniel
Tad
Josey
JossWest
Runde
WheatCues
Banned
regarding Searing Cues
To answer your question "what is the big deal about Searing Cues"
I know Dennis personally and as a fellow cuemaker I can explain the difference very easily...
His cues are FLAWLESS and when I saw FLAWLESS I mean that as in PERFECT !
Good cuemakers can critique and pick out flaws and coverups and errors very easily, we can see things almost immediately, that the typical person will never see for hours of intense examining...
So when you have a perfectionist such as Dennis Searing who accepts absolutely nothing less than A+++ in ALL materials he uses to build his cues, and his reputation is as a cuemaker is like having a perfect credit score for everyone else, you wouldn't expect to get anything less for the money !
Not to insult your intelligencem buit you really should take a step back and examine all the top cuemakers in the present industry and ask yourself whatr YOU are looking for in a cue, and see who is offering you what YOU WANT !
I personally think Dennis's cues are Exquisit and exceptional art pieces, but I don't care for they way they hit, but as a cuesmaker who offers complete custom fitted cues who builds them to the customers exact specs including diameter and length and the hit and feel, well, I felt I had something different to offer the industry instead of "art".
I feel if I can improve your performance by 25% and guaranteeing it, then I have something to offer next next guy doesn't. allmy cues are built around your hand from the center of the wrap all the way out to the tip.. I build cues on the avg. length of 60" but have gone as long as 62-1/2" the good news is that there are cases that accommodate those lengths.
Anyways, I just wanted to elaborate on Searing Cues and offer some insight on why his cues are so damn expensive ! "you simply get what you pay for... PERECTION !"
- Eddie Wheat
To answer your question "what is the big deal about Searing Cues"
I know Dennis personally and as a fellow cuemaker I can explain the difference very easily...
His cues are FLAWLESS and when I saw FLAWLESS I mean that as in PERFECT !
Good cuemakers can critique and pick out flaws and coverups and errors very easily, we can see things almost immediately, that the typical person will never see for hours of intense examining...
So when you have a perfectionist such as Dennis Searing who accepts absolutely nothing less than A+++ in ALL materials he uses to build his cues, and his reputation is as a cuemaker is like having a perfect credit score for everyone else, you wouldn't expect to get anything less for the money !
Not to insult your intelligencem buit you really should take a step back and examine all the top cuemakers in the present industry and ask yourself whatr YOU are looking for in a cue, and see who is offering you what YOU WANT !
I personally think Dennis's cues are Exquisit and exceptional art pieces, but I don't care for they way they hit, but as a cuesmaker who offers complete custom fitted cues who builds them to the customers exact specs including diameter and length and the hit and feel, well, I felt I had something different to offer the industry instead of "art".
I feel if I can improve your performance by 25% and guaranteeing it, then I have something to offer next next guy doesn't. allmy cues are built around your hand from the center of the wrap all the way out to the tip.. I build cues on the avg. length of 60" but have gone as long as 62-1/2" the good news is that there are cases that accommodate those lengths.
Anyways, I just wanted to elaborate on Searing Cues and offer some insight on why his cues are so damn expensive ! "you simply get what you pay for... PERECTION !"
- Eddie Wheat
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tap tap tapWheatCues said:
I don't know how people can think a cue or a maker can be hyped to Dennis's level. Are buyers that dumb or gullible?
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WheatCues
Banned
regarding Searing Cues
To answer your question "what is the big deal about Searing Cues"
I know Dennis personally and as a fellow cuemaker I can explain the difference very easily...
His cues are FLAWLESS and when I saw FLAWLESS I mean that as in PERFECT !
Good cuemakers can critique and pick out flaws and coverups and errors very easily, we can see things almost immediately, that the typical person will never see for hours of intense examining...
So when you have a perfectionist such as Dennis Searing who accepts absolutely nothing less than A+++ in ALL materials he uses to build his cues, and his reputation is as a cuemaker is like having a perfect credit score for everyone else, you wouldn't expect to get anything less for the money !
Not to insult your intelligence but you really should take a step back and examine all the top cuemakers in the present industry and ask yourself whatr YOU are looking for in a cue, and see who is offering you what YOU WANT !
I personally think Dennis's cues are Exquisit and exceptional art pieces, but as a cuesmaker who offers complete custom fitted cues who builds them to the customers exact specs. including diameter and length and the hit and feel, well, I felt I had something different to offer the industry instead of "art".
I feel if I can improve your performance by 25% and guarantee it, then I have something to offer next next guy doesn't. all my cues are built around your hand from the center of the wrap all the way out to the tip.
I avg. oout your armspand by measuring you 10 different ways and then I balance then from that point all the way out to the tip so no matter where you are on the 12" wrap you have the same feel for english control. I build cues on the avg. length of 60" but have gone as long as 62-1/2" the good news is that there are cases that accommodate those lengths.
I also build the cues exactly the way YOU WANT including the hit as well as diameter and taper and joint assembly, in other words you are buying EXACTLY what you want starting at only 350.00... my logical approach is simply... "I sell tools not art" but they look great, I get most of my wood stock from Pete Ohman "OmenCues" from Melbouorne Fl. he's about 25 miles south of me and I hand pick my stock, if you want to see some of my work please feel free to check out myspace profile at www.myspace.com/cuesmith1 goto pics under wheatcues photo album... I have a few cues listed there and please understand I built every cue to the customers exact specifications and it's what THEY wanted not what I wanted even though I don't agree with some of the color configurations, they are 100% happy with the complete outcome and it's all about the customer ! not me....
Anyways, I just wanted to elaborate on Searing Cues and offer some insight on why his cues are so damn expensive ! "you simply get what you pay for... PERECTION !"
- Eddie Wheat
To answer your question "what is the big deal about Searing Cues"
I know Dennis personally and as a fellow cuemaker I can explain the difference very easily...
His cues are FLAWLESS and when I saw FLAWLESS I mean that as in PERFECT !
Good cuemakers can critique and pick out flaws and coverups and errors very easily, we can see things almost immediately, that the typical person will never see for hours of intense examining...
So when you have a perfectionist such as Dennis Searing who accepts absolutely nothing less than A+++ in ALL materials he uses to build his cues, and his reputation is as a cuemaker is like having a perfect credit score for everyone else, you wouldn't expect to get anything less for the money !
Not to insult your intelligence but you really should take a step back and examine all the top cuemakers in the present industry and ask yourself whatr YOU are looking for in a cue, and see who is offering you what YOU WANT !
I personally think Dennis's cues are Exquisit and exceptional art pieces, but as a cuesmaker who offers complete custom fitted cues who builds them to the customers exact specs. including diameter and length and the hit and feel, well, I felt I had something different to offer the industry instead of "art".
I feel if I can improve your performance by 25% and guarantee it, then I have something to offer next next guy doesn't. all my cues are built around your hand from the center of the wrap all the way out to the tip.
I avg. oout your armspand by measuring you 10 different ways and then I balance then from that point all the way out to the tip so no matter where you are on the 12" wrap you have the same feel for english control. I build cues on the avg. length of 60" but have gone as long as 62-1/2" the good news is that there are cases that accommodate those lengths.
I also build the cues exactly the way YOU WANT including the hit as well as diameter and taper and joint assembly, in other words you are buying EXACTLY what you want starting at only 350.00... my logical approach is simply... "I sell tools not art" but they look great, I get most of my wood stock from Pete Ohman "OmenCues" from Melbouorne Fl. he's about 25 miles south of me and I hand pick my stock, if you want to see some of my work please feel free to check out myspace profile at www.myspace.com/cuesmith1 goto pics under wheatcues photo album... I have a few cues listed there and please understand I built every cue to the customers exact specifications and it's what THEY wanted not what I wanted even though I don't agree with some of the color configurations, they are 100% happy with the complete outcome and it's all about the customer ! not me....
Anyways, I just wanted to elaborate on Searing Cues and offer some insight on why his cues are so damn expensive ! "you simply get what you pay for... PERECTION !"
- Eddie Wheat