SEE-SYSTEM update

theUBC

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Hey there,
I am happy to announce that the SEE-SYSTEM update will be ready very, very soon!!!
As I am behind the announced scedule I will give away 15 minutes of video for free to all of you!

Only three different lines for all angles between 0° - 75°...

I will tell the az-forum world when it is all done:)

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8pXvbaFbok



Attention: new link for edited video as I took the criticism constructiv and positiv and changed the way I explained the range of angles for the first category.

NEW LINK will be online in 2 hours from now:

Here is the link: http://youtu.be/Fq3lCuScYWM




P.S. Anyone that orders within the next 7 days will get the whole update for free like any of my "old customers"!!
 
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Spimp13

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RRfireblade

Grammer Are For Stupids
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I'm not sure to be honest.

I understand this was a very short clip but you started with "This is like the simplest method ever, only 3 lines" and then there was like the most compilicated description, wierd foot positions that should have nothing to do with the line of aim. Shadows that can change with every pool room and light configuration...in fact I play in a very day light room at times where there's nearly no discernable shadows at all.

It just went from A,B,C simple to smoke and mirror sounding in record time.

Sorry but that was my initial reaction.
 

theUBC

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See

:wink:Thanks for your honest word!
The shadows do change but the relevant part of the shadow that I mean is where we percieve the darkest shadow (1/8 of a ball inside the edge of the cue ball) under the ball- just there where the shadow makes contact with the ball- and this part of the shadow will be the same on every table!
Even if this would not be the case ( and I haven't seen any table where this was the case) this spot (where the shadow cuts the ball) is just 7.2 mm inside the edge of the cue ball.

Due to different or multiple light sources there can be multiple shadows with different shapes.... just always take the spot where THE DARKEST SHADOW THAT YOU PERCIEVE makes contact WITH THE CUE BALL under the ball.

Believe me- having a specific point that you see when you start your aiming whilw you are standing is golden.

Perhaps you give it a try and respond again when you tried it if it works for you or not.

For Darren APPLETON IT SEEMS TO WORK

Best regards from beyond the pond

ekkes
 
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RRfireblade

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Believe me- having a specific point that you see when you start your aiming whilw you are standing is golden.

I dont disagree with that at all.

Personally I'd like to see a simpler method to get that point , in addition to all the figuring involved in establishing the relative angles down to the decimal point....establishing the lines on the table relative to the dots....the front foot positioning that I don't see what that should have to do with anything. I mean if I'm cutting 45* to the pocket, my front foot is going to be like a game of twister? :)

I'm one of those dreaded 'feel' aimers although I have no problen with the idea of using a formula to establish aim points if that helps you. That sounds reasonable but it shouldnt require so much 'figuring' and layout.

And this was just a 15 minute clip that most of was the grip. :)

I will look at that shadow point tho and see if it relates as soon as I get a chance.
 

theUBC

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No problem...
I'll post two pictures of the book the have to do with the position of the both feet. I know this is kind of weird for players that play by feel and expierience only! But it isn't difficult at all when you give it a try at the table. Sure it will take some time to get used to it but it'll pay out!
I did play pool by feel only for more than 20 years and I was a decent player with a high run of 132 balls in straight pool- but believe me this method will write history in pool!

Note: the described position of my both feet is only correct for this system.

In case you aim from the edges the position of the front foot would be different (FF points to center of ghost ball in front of the object ball) and if you aim through the center of the cue ball it is different again.

Clic/copy and paste this link and you get access to two sides of the book concerning the position of the back foot (BF) and the front foot (FF)

https://smartdrive.web.de/client/in...lang=de&username=@nonymous&incarnation=web_de



Ekkes
:wink:
 
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freedog69

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Thanks for all your hard work...

Hello I was wondering if people that already have your book will be allowed to download this new updated version for free? Thanks for all you do for this great game of ours.

just to give you an impression how I played before I invented the SEE SYSTEM here is a video from 4 years ago where I ran out 7 games in 9 ball playing the ghost (ball in hand after the break)

I play 3 balls better today

https://smartdrive.web.de/client/in...lang=de&username=@nonymous&incarnation=web_de
 

theUBC

AzB Silver Member
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Yes all customers that bought the book/ video will get the complete update for free
 

dr9ball

"Lock Doctor"
Silver Member
That sounds a lot like the SAM aiming method. It will be interesting to see the differences.

Hey there,
I am happy to announce that the SEE-SYSTEM update will be ready very, very soon!!!
As I am behind the announced scedule I will give away 15 minutes of video for free to all of you!

Only three different lines for all angles between 0° - 75°...

I will tell the az-forum world when it is all done:)

Enjoy!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8pXvbaFbok

P.S. Anyone that orders within the next 7 days will get the whole update for free like any of my "old customers"!!
 

theUBC

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
See

@ MOJO

and all other that might be interested...

The price of the SEE System was $39.90.
As I transformed it to a complete training concept not only for aiming without and WITH applying English (and not only back hand English)- with easy to learn adjustments for throw on steeper angles or when using a stun stroke, playing position, banking without and with the SEE-LINES a diamond system for to see the angle by parallel shifts AND reference shots for all angles and looooaaads of exercises to get get a feeling for the angles and different kind of strokes the new version will cost $ 49.90.

All "old customer" will get the whole update completely for free!I will send an e-mail to everyone with a link to download the book and videos. You've got nothing to do to get it.

Any order at my website (www.infinite-billiards.com) that will get to me up to 16th of July will get the old version immediately via download AND the update for free for the old price of $39.90!!!

By the way I took the words of RRfireblade as positive productive criticism and changed the way how I explained the range for the first category.
It will be uploaded on youtube within the next 2 hours.

Here is the link: http://youtu.be/Fq3lCuScYWM

Anything from minute 7 up to minute 20 is new!:wink:

SEE YOU!
 

theUBC

AzB Silver Member
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@ DR9ball:

It is not like SAM.

SAM is a good system too; but is a fractional system with 6 references at the object ball.

The aiming concept of the SEE system is NOT FRACTIONAL and has 3 references only.

The SEE-SYSTEM IS NOT AN AIMING CONCEPT ONLY- IT COVERS CONCRETE ADJUSTMENTS FOR SIDE SPIN; STUN TEACHES POSITION PLAY
WITH AND WITHOUT ENGLISH AND SYSTEMATIC BANKING WITH AND WITHOUD SIDESPIN WITH AND WITHOUT THE SEE-LINE:


bEST GREETINGS FROM BEYOND THE POND

EKKES
 

whitewolf

AzB Silver Member
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A note to the moderator.

this should be posted on the aiming thread section of the forums!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

Scott Lee

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SAM does the same thing...and imo, with a much easier concept of understanding. We only use 3 points of aim, out of the 6 anyway. jmo

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com

The SEE-SYSTEM IS NOT AN AIMING CONCEPT ONLY- IT COVERS CONCRETE ADJUSTMENTS FOR SIDE SPIN; STUN TEACHES POSITION PLAY WITH AND WITHOUT ENGLISH AND SYSTEMATIC BANKING WITH AND WITHOUD SIDESPIN WITH AND WITHOUT THE SEE-LINE:
 

theUBC

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
See

@ Scott

I know SAM.
It is fractional aiming and the 6 segments cut the OB in straight, 3/4,- 1/2 2/3 3/4 1/3 1/8 (and thinner cuts)

I like it, as you learn how to see the right picture faster of a certain fractional hit and your stroke is not disturbed by maybe wrong impressions down in the SET position.

I tell you what: it is not easier - it is different.
With SEE I need two single lines to cover all angles between 0° - 54°

But some of the positive aspects are true for the SEE-SYSTEM too.

By the way nobody every taught me position play with SAM. I think you use general concepts (like 30°/90° rule, clock system or what ever ...

And I tell what I do not like:
I teach pool for a living just like you do. I live from giving pool clinics all over in the world and selling my books and videos and have done them with all of my heart. The SEE-SYSTEM developped and got better and all of my clients will get the update for free. You do it for a longer time and might be more experienced- but here in Germany we write personal messages in case we critizise things in a way you do it - I think anyone should decide on his own.

Maybe this is different in the States-but hold on- I know many of your landsman that have the same sense for politness like I do....


You may think SAM has an easier to understand concept- I think this might be true considdering my old concept but I know SEE is as good as Sam- just different- and it covers a lot more than SAM does.

Anyway I 'd appreciate a personal conversation via PM or e-mail from now on. E-mail: info@infinite-billiards.com and I really question your way of posting!
 

Scott Lee

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Ekkes...I did not belittle your "system". I merely stated that I believe SAM to be easy to understand. It is not impolite to voice an opinion, as long as it is done without malice or condescension. None of that in my post. SAM is taught using sidespin and position play. If you did not learn that, then you weren't given the full explaination. From viewing the link you posted, I merely expressed my opinion that SAM is easier to understand. That does not take away from your belief that yours is "better". One thing I know we agree on is this...no system can make up for an inconsistent stroke.

Scott Lee
www.poolknowledge.com
 
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