Segen Cues

I would hope all cues have concentric joint screws.

It means that the connecting pin hardware stays concentric during the build versus makers who turn wobbles off the cue resulting in hardware slightly off center.
 
Fancy wording for what I think is basically a piloted joint with a radial pin. Not sure it's.100% the same as standard radial pins, but that was how it was described to me.
 
Aren't all concentrical???? I don't get the point in calling them like yhis...
Is it a mini radial? what is the thread exactly? Anyone?
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I bought 2 Segens. The S2 and the S41. Best cue for the money on the planet. Straightest cues I have ever seen. Balanced perfect and play real nice. Only thing I did to mine was put on a softer tip. I put on Kamakize Medium Brown tips. Cues are perfect for my taste right now.
 
I looked into those cues and at first glance they looked like a good buy, luckily I bought a Mezz instead. I heard Segen stopped making cues, and they not only used a piloted radial joint, but also their own proprietary radial pin. Can't get extra shaft, can't easily repair or retaper. I guess they wanted to ensure that only they themselves could repair their cues... That's the problem with proprietary joints, especially for small scale operations like this. If they stop making cues, the guy running it dies, or you live far away, you may not get it repaired, ever.

So basically it's for people who don't actually use their cues, or at least are willing to put on their own tips, and are confident nothing will ever happen to it. Those are the ones who should buy custom. Now everyone with a Segen better hope they have an extra shaft or else they're royally screwed if their shaft breaks or they want a different one, I'd never buy one now, knowing what I said above.
 
I looked into those cues and at first glance they looked like a good buy, luckily I bought a Mezz instead. I heard Segen stopped making cues, and they not only used a piloted radial joint, but also their own proprietary radial pin. Can't get extra shaft, can't easily repair or retaper. I guess they wanted to ensure that only they themselves could repair their cues... That's the problem with proprietary joints, especially for small scale operations like this. If they stop making cues, the guy running it dies, or you live far away, you may not get it repaired, ever.

So basically it's for people who don't actually use their cues, or at least are willing to put on their own tips, and are confident nothing will ever happen to it. Those are the ones who should buy custom. Now everyone with a Segen better hope they have an extra shaft or else they're royally screwed if their shaft breaks or they want a different one, I'd never buy one now, knowing what I said above.

I looked at and hit with a couple Segan cues at a local brick and mortar when they first came out. They were not anything I would personally spend money on.

To add to the bastard joint pin, he also made the joint well over .900" (its been a couple of years, so I cant remember the exact measurement). That pretty much rules out using an aftermarket shaft, unless the shaft collar is replaced with a flared out (coned) collar to adapt a .050"+ difference in diameters.
 
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I looked at and hit with a couple Segan cues at a local brick and mortar when they first came out. They were not anything I would personally spend money on.

To add to the bastard joint pin, he also made the joint well over .900" (its been a couple of years, so I cant remember the exact measurement). That pretty much rules out using an aftermarket shaft, unless the shaft collar is replaced with a flared out (coned) collar to adapt a .050"+ difference in diameters.

I bought mine and wanted to match it with an I3 shaft from McDermott. So I sent it to
McDermott. They couldn't tap it, so I asked them send it to Evan Clark. Everything
worked out fine. There is a website that was selling OB's that were made for Segen
but I haven't looked at those in a while and of course, I bought mine a couple of summers
ago when before Segen went the way of the Dodo and all this happened back then just
before Segen closed up.
Somewhere here within AZ someone had identified the size and pitch of Segen,
 
I bought 2 Segens. The S2 and the S41. Best cue for the money on the planet. Straightest cues I have ever seen. Balanced perfect and play real nice. Only thing I did to mine was put on a softer tip. I put on Kamakize Medium Brown tips. Cues are perfect for my taste right now.

I got one from Evan a few years ago and it's one of my favorite cues. Has a nice well balanced feel to it and goes through the ball great. Very similar hit to the old Schon's and that's a good thing!
I also changed to a medium soft Triangle tip. Works for me! :thumbup2:
P.S. Good price point for a true custom made cue.
 
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