Semi-Professional SBE 10 ball, only 9,000 added
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It is kind of a joke, 64 players and 8K added with $500 entry fees and $160/night rooms. If you finish third you might break even! Meanwhile at the Ultimate Ten Ball, there was $75,000 ADDED money, same entry fee and rooms for under $60 a night. He had exactly 83 players.
And these guys wonder why no one wants to sponsor a major tournament today. HELLO! Why not try supporting a VERY GOOD one when you have/had a chance! If I was Badi, I would have walked too.
And these guys wonder why no one wants to sponsor a major tournament today. HELLO! Why not try supporting a VERY GOOD one when you have/had a chance! If I was Badi, I would have walked too.
Jay,
I would like to say that the Ulimate 10 Ball, for me, was a great experience being able to work along side of so many great people like yourself , Mark Wilson, Danny D and Joey A. The staff of Diamond was awesome and Ken Shuman is the Ultimate Professional when it come to tournament directing.
It seems to me that the events that focus on the players and how much the players are getting aren't doing as well as the events that focus more on the fans. The fans are the ones who will buy things, cheer for their favorite player and tell everyone how much fun they had.
I think this is why the SBE does well and why I think smaller events with more emphasis on the fan experience are going to be what turns pool around. This in turn will create more opportunities for the players in the form of more events with more fans.
Make it fun or it ain't no fun.
Ray
I still don't understand why the pro event wasn't streamed. There are several high quality professional pool streamers, like Ray, that could have been tapped for this event. It seems like a misstep for an event that is supposed to be fan oriented.
My work schedule permits me to see maybe one pro level event a year. This year so far I have ponied up for 5 PPV events and it's only mid March. I would have dropped $50 easily to watch the SBE match-ups.
My work schedule permits me to see maybe one pro level event a year. This year so far I have ponied up for 5 PPV events and it's only mid March. I would have dropped $50 easily to watch the SBE match-ups.
Jay,
I would like to say that the Ulimate 10 Ball, for me, was a great experience being able to work along side of so many great people like yourself , Mark Wilson, Danny D and Joey A. The staff of Diamond was awesome and Ken Shuman is the Ultimate Professional when it come to tournament directing.
It seems to me that the events that focus on the players and how much the players are getting aren't doing as well as the events that focus more on the fans. The fans are the ones who will buy things, cheer for their favorite player and tell everyone how much fun they had.
I think this is why the SBE does well and why I think smaller events with more emphasis on the fan experience are going to be what turns pool around. This in turn will create more opportunities for the players in the form of more events with more fans.
Make it fun or it ain't no fun.
Ray
That's a real good post Bigtruck. I hadn't really thought about it like that but it makes perfect sense.
I think this even happens at the amateur level, where you will have events that don't have payouts that really make sense on paper but everybody has such a good time that the brackets all fill up.
So apparently the emphasis needs to be on having fun and not worry as much about the added money. Build up a fun tournament and then maybe the money will follow.
I am just curious how many staff are hired to work for the Super Billiard Exp for the 4 days. Also, the trophies of this tournament are some of the nicest I've seen. I know they were expensive. Then the rent of the venue site, as well as the cost/rent of the equipment enters into the fray.
Allen Hopkins continues to make adjustments based on constructive criticism from the year previous. This year did have its downsides for some folks, and I hope Allen takes a look at it. The livestreaming comes to mind. I'm thinking this was more political than Allen being paid, but that is my opinon.
This and Joss Turning Stone and the U.S. Open 9-Ball are the only high-caliber events we have on the East Coast. I don't want to see them fade into the sunset. As it is now, it seems like everything is out West, leaving some of us geographically handicapped, so to speak. :grin-square:
Whoever is advising Allen Hopkins Sr., much like whoever was advising other pool-related enterprises which failed -- I won't name them -- they are not doing Allen any favors by these new SBE happenings, i.e., no livestreaming, reducing payouts, et cetera.
There were some improvements at this year's SBE, I read about, such as the cordoning off of the Pro event. It's easy to crticize and come with complaints, but I do wonder if anyone who was there noticed any improvements from last year.
Did the vendors have a good turnout? Did the league players have fun? Was the action pit busy 24/7?
Allen Hopkins continues to make adjustments based on constructive criticism from the year previous. This year did have its downsides for some folks, and I hope Allen takes a look at it. The livestreaming comes to mind. I'm thinking this was more political than Allen being paid, but that is my opinon.
This and Joss Turning Stone and the U.S. Open 9-Ball are the only high-caliber events we have on the East Coast. I don't want to see them fade into the sunset. As it is now, it seems like everything is out West, leaving some of us geographically handicapped, so to speak. :grin-square:
Whoever is advising Allen Hopkins Sr., much like whoever was advising other pool-related enterprises which failed -- I won't name them -- they are not doing Allen any favors by these new SBE happenings, i.e., no livestreaming, reducing payouts, et cetera.
There were some improvements at this year's SBE, I read about, such as the cordoning off of the Pro event. It's easy to crticize and come with complaints, but I do wonder if anyone who was there noticed any improvements from last year.
Did the vendors have a good turnout? Did the league players have fun? Was the action pit busy 24/7?
Trob,
Please don't forget to mention us -
CSI (CueSports International): which includes BCA Pool League and the USA Pool League. Also the ABC Association (The American Billiard Club Assn. - which plays American Rotation in pool rooms) and also the soon to be launched 6 pocket.
We are having tough times like everyone else but I feel we are the most active pool entity out there for the present!
Mark Griffin
Please don't forget to mention us -
CSI (CueSports International): which includes BCA Pool League and the USA Pool League. Also the ABC Association (The American Billiard Club Assn. - which plays American Rotation in pool rooms) and also the soon to be launched 6 pocket.
We are having tough times like everyone else but I feel we are the most active pool entity out there for the present!
Mark Griffin
SBE is still alive and kicking.
Ultimate 10-ball is dead.
Bet on the live guy every time.