Setting the stakes for multiple sessions

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kryptonite9

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If during a session the bet escalates, should you feel obligated to start at the highest stakes if you play again?

I play a guy $50 a game one pocket, the bet escalates to $100 and eventually $200 a game. The only reason I played for $200 a game is becasue we set a freeze on the time we would play and I knew we could only play a few games at $200 a game. He was down and insisted. Now if we play again is it wrong for me to ask to play for $50 or $100 a game?
Now we each won a game at $200, so I won all my money playing 50/100.

I have seen the different gambling scenerios argued, but never really this topic. If it has been covered before please point me to the thread.

I would hate to be labeled as a NIT. :)
 
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Nothing wrong starting at 50/100 next time. Maybe $200 a pop is out of your comfort zone. Be a nit, it don't hurt, and laugh while your skipping down to the bank. Johnnyt
 
kryptonite9 said:
If during a session the bet escalates, should you feel obligated to start at the highest stakes if you play again?

I play a guy $50 a game one pocket, the bet escalates to $100 and eventually $200 a game. The only reason I played for $200 a game is becasue we set a freeze on the time we would play and I knew we could only play a few games at $200 a game. He was down and insisted. Now if we play again is it wrong for me to ask to play for $50 or $100 a game?
Now we each won a game at $200, so I won all my money playing 50/100.

I have seen the different gambling scenerios argued, but never really this topic. If it has been covered before please point me to the thread.

I would hate to be labeled as a NIT. :)
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Quitting winner would require you give him a fair shot at the last stake. If he quit you, the session is over. If you two ran out of time and scheduled a day to continue, then it would be polite to keep the stakes the same.
 
Not necessarily

I believe each session is its own and should not be determined by past matchups. If you both like the game and you both think it is a fair bet then by all means start of where you left off. But I have seen many sessions where one player goes cold or the other catches lightning in a bottle and the set was won or lost due a player not playing their "normal" game.

If a player outruns the nuts and raises the bet incrementally in one session because the other player is dogging his brains out I don't think he should be obligated to start off the next session for the same bet just because the guy got his nose open. If he hadn't been dogging or playing under his speed the bet wouldn't have escalated in this instance.

On the other hand, if two players have a normal game and have played many times then that is a different deal.
 
Ktown D said:
I believe each session is its own and should not be determined by past matchups. If you both like the game and you both think it is a fair bet then by all means start of where you left off. But I have seen many sessions where one player goes cold or the other catches lightning in a bottle and the set was won or lost due a player not playing their "normal" game.

If a player outruns the nuts and raises the bet incrementally in one session because the other player is dogging his brains out I don't think he should be obligated to start off the next session for the same bet just because the guy got his nose open. If he hadn't been dogging or playing under his speed the bet wouldn't have escalated in this instance.

On the other hand, if two players have a normal game and have played many times then that is a different deal.
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This was a one time deal, not a regular game. I just don't bet this much, but the spot was right. I had a set time, was up money, and the guy was willing to go off for a little. I just don't want to play 15 or 20 games next session at $200 a pop. The guy wants to play again and I didn't want to look like a jerk asking to back down to $50 a game. I worked hard to get up money and don't want to give it back in 1 or 2 games.
 
kryptonite9 said:
This was a one time deal, not a regular game. I just don't bet this much, but the spot was right. I had a set time, was up money, and the guy was willing to go off for a little. I just don't want to play 15 or 20 games next session at $200 a pop. The guy wants to play again and I didn't want to look like a jerk asking to back down to $50 a game. I worked hard to get up money and don't want to give it back in 1 or 2 games.
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I think you are justified in playing for 50 or 100 the next time you play to start. If you both feel after a few games like upping the bet by all mans do.
 
old school

kryptonite9 said:
This was a one time deal, not a regular game. I just don't bet this much, but the spot was right. I had a set time, was up money, and the guy was willing to go off for a little. I just don't want to play 15 or 20 games next session at $200 a pop. The guy wants to play again and I didn't want to look like a jerk asking to back down to $50 a game. I worked hard to get up money and don't want to give it back in 1 or 2 games.
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More than one old school player believed that you catch up the same way you got down and held the bet the same for a session. I don't grind on somebody for hours and then let them jump the bet real high to try to catch up on the last game or set. I did let them double the last bet or last few bets after it was plainly stated when the session would end, if I was inclined to do so. It wasn't a must.

As for this particular case, only if you had agreed to continue that session at a later date, not play again, are you obliged to take up where you left off. New session, new bet, new spot, anything you want to negotiate.

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yo K!.....whats up man?! hey, you never have to play for anything your not comfortable with regardless of where you left off last session IMO.

next question is who?, where?, when?.....don't hold out on me man!:)

lemme know how your doing....

G.
 
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kryptonite9 said:
If during a session the bet escalates, should you feel obligated to start at the highest stakes if you play again?

I play a guy $50 a game one pocket, the bet escalates to $100 and eventually $200 a game. The only reason I played for $200 a game is becasue we set a freeze on the time we would play and I knew we could only play a few games at $200 a game. He was down and insisted. Now if we play again is it wrong for me to ask to play for $50 or $100 a game?
Now we each won a game at $200, so I won all my money playing 50/100.

I have seen the different gambling scenerios argued, but never really this topic. If it has been covered before please point me to the thread.

I would hate to be labeled as a NIT. :)
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This is my standard reply to the other guy saying "I want a chance to get my money back".
I say "what money"?
He says "the money in your pocket".
I say "oh, thats my money, not yours".
Here is where they get that confused and angry look. The cold hard truth is, you are not obligated to play again at all, period. If you do play, you can start at lower wager and if you want work your way up to 200 again. There are many different angles at gambling. Maybe he was distracted or just off the first time, maybe you got shot of adrenaline and felt you could not miss. Either way, it is totally up to you if and when you ever play again. Always try to stay in your comfort zone, if you bet too high and get too nervous to play, well it might not be good.
Keep on strokin!!!
 
bet

You are never obligated to raise the bet because you are winning. I like em to get it back just the way I got it. Good gamblers keep control, and letting the opponent dictate the game can sometimes lose the edge for you.
 
I would label you a nit if we were playing 200 a game and lost and the next time you only wanted to bet 50.

Now, there has to be some background to this. For example, if you got like 10 games ahead at 50 per game and then played just one or two at the end for 200, then starting the next session at 50 would be ok.

But if you played 5 games at 50, 5 at 100, and 5 at 200, and then went back to 50 if you made a nice score, that is totally wrong. I'd tell you to f off and wouldn't care about the money and just not play you again.

So I think the thing to do is look at the average bet of the session. In the last example above, I think you have to start at a minimum of 100 the next session, but 150 would be better.

Plus it sounds like you beat the guy bad. Why wouldn't you want to keep the bet up?

Finally, this happened to me one time (of several I'm sure) that always stuck in my head. I was playing a guy cheap (we were both kids) years ago for 10 a game. He gets up on my about 50 total. Then I ask to bet 20. He gets up a bunch more games, winning like 250 total. He was destroying me but I didn't want to stop. We stopped when the place closed. So the next time we see each other, I want to play again. He said ok, but for 10 a game. I told him to f off and told him off. I saw the guy every week for the next 10 years before I finally played him again. That in my mind is how strong a negative impression he gave me that one time. And this guy definitely had the money, it wasn't like he just had some extra cash that first time and then he was broke like can happen with pool players.
 
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