"Sevenkiller"....is this a deserved nickname???

[ridinda9]

Sorry, but you're WAY off base with the sandbagging comment. In fact, I am the total OPPOSITE of a sandbagger. I want to beat my opponent, not JUST a win, but an ass-whuppin'. I want to beat him/her in as few of innings as possible, in as little time as possible. I don't want to even see my opponent at the table (although at my skill level, this is impossible). I have NEVER missed a shot on purpose (that wasn't a "called" safety). My goal is to win each and every game I play, ALL the time!!!

Maniac

this is why the s/l3 &sl/4s beat you . When you play them , you have to give up the 'as quickly as possible' mindset .
Go to your safety game , put 'em in jail , even if you have a makeable shot .
It will affect them psychologically , AND it will keep their ball count down .
They can't make balls they can't see! (at least they shouldn't be able to , at s/l3 . . . . . )
It even works against higher handicaps . In last years LTC , I was playing an s/l7.
He broke , got nothing , left me a shot on the 1.
2 was locked behind another ball , no way to get good shape.
I played safe instead , hooked him . (It's NOT a pushout if you touch the rail !)
got ball in hand , did it again .
7 times in a row ~ on the first ball , first rack , 0-0 score .
He was red in the face , hoppin' mad .
I owned him for the rest of the match !!:grin:

 

[ridinda9]

Whatever gave you the idea that I was in Vegas this summer??? FWIW, I've never been west of the Grand Canyon. You must be mistaking me for someone else.

Maniac

Could have gotten that idea from listening to SweetPea (Robin) starting a thread about her team going to Vegas for NTC
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=2503179#post2503179
, and her also bragging in another thread about her team captain ( who she identified as "Maniac") never sandbagging . . . . .
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=2605383#post2605383
Sometimes the pool detectives add 2+2 and get 5 . . . . . .

it's difficult trying to keep all the online relationships oriented with the real-world relationships . . . .

 

[Quesports]

The APA ranking system is quiet ambiguous. When I played APA there was one player that had lost every match for more than 17 weeks in a row. His rank never changed even after repeated calls to the LO as well as the APA head office. Calls were made on his behalf by everyone on his team as well as many on other teams. Just the facts no bashing the APA....

 

[Koop]

I think you have hit on something that I have suspected for a while, that the SL7's in my area are on the weaker side. I break and run a rack every once in a while. The SL7's I play only break and run a rack every once in a while themselves. I always expect a BNR or two every time I'm up against a SL7, but it just don't happen as often as it should. imo.

I usually average around 2 to 2 1/2 innings a game. Thursday night we played 11 racks in 27 innings with three safties by me and four by him, which is fairly typical for one of my matches.

For the most part, I figure I'm a strong 6 playing weak 7's.

Maniac

This says to me that you should be a 7. If you are averaging only 2-3 innings a game, that is the definition of a 7.
Without knowing much about the players or your area I am not going to underrate your opponents or overrate you. I just think you should be moved up to a 7.

 

[LeagueGuy]

In my APA 9-ball league last night I was dubbed "sevenkiller" by one of my teammates. As a SL6 it seems that I almost always win my matches (as I again did last night) when paired against a SL7. I am of the mindset that I feel as though my chances are better when being spotted balls as opposed to spotting my opponents balls. I have the dickens-of-a-time playing the SL4's and most SL5's. I had rather play someone better than me anyway. It makes me bear down and focus better, therefore I play better. Now I am starting to wonder if maybe the nine ball spot difference between a SL6 and a SL7 is a tad too much? What do the APA 9-ball league players out there think?

Do I deserve the "sevenkiller" moniker or is the spot too high? Keep in mind that a lot of times I get my 46 balls while the SL7's are still in their 30's or low 40's ( I beat one a few weeks ago 46-22). I would like to test my theory on a few SL8's and SL9's, but there just aren't any in my APA area.

This post is most definitely not bragging as I know that in the real world of pool I am not a wart on a real poolplayers ass :embarrassed2:. Just wondering what y'all think about the nine ball spot difference between the two skill levels?

And please, PLEASE don't turn this into an APA-bashing thread!!!

Maniac

Manaic,

I am s skill level 8 and have been for a few years. Based on the caliber of other 7's and 8's in my league, I would guess I am on the strong side of an 8 and close to a 9. I average about 2 B and R's a match if I am playing well. We play on 9-foot tables.

I find that I win between 60-65 % of my matches regardless of who i am playing against. Basically I need to have my A game in order to even have a chance. If my opponenty plays over their head, they will likely beat me reagrdless of how I play. (as they should - that is what the handicap is for)

My guess is that as a 6, you are a strong 6 and that if you are playing a weak 7 or even mid range 7 you will win because, based on the sounds of it, you tend to play over your head aginst them. You may find that your matches against lower players go the exact opposite because they play against you, like you do aginst 7's. Over their head.

In order to spot 10,20 or more balls and still win, you need to play better than your average game and have them play even or below.
When a lower player plays better then their average, they will usually win.

I actually think the 9-ball handicaps and scoring are great. A little more complicated but better for the rankings and the team aspect of play

Leagueguy

 

[Maniac]

Could have gotten that idea from listening to SweetPea (Robin) starting a thread about her team going to Vegas for NTC
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=2503179#post2503179
, and her also bragging in another thread about her team captain ( who she identified as "Maniac") never sandbagging . . . . .
http://forums.azbilliards.com/showthread.php?p=2605383#post2605383
Sometimes the pool detectives add 2+2 and get 5 . . . . . .

it's difficult trying to keep all the online relationships oriented with the real-world relationships . . . .

I am the captain of her 9-ball team. The 8-ball team that she plays on and the one that went to Vegas, I am no part of. I can see how the mistake was made. No problems!!!

Maniac

 

[Maniac]

The APA ranking system is quiet ambiguous. When I played APA there was one player that had lost every match for more than 17 weeks in a row. His rank never changed even after repeated calls to the LO as well as the APA head office. Calls were made on his behalf by everyone on his team as well as many on other teams. Just the facts no bashing the APA....

We too had a player have a losing streak like that that took forever to go down a level. I think he was 1-14 in one session and lost several in a row in the next session before he went down. I never called the LO 'cause we had a lady beatin' hell out of everyone and never goin' UP. It all balanced out as far as I was concerned.

Maniac

 

[Maniac]

This says to me that you should be a 7. If you are averaging only 2-3 innings a game, that is the definition of a 7.
Without knowing much about the players or your area I am not going to underrate your opponents or overrate you. I just think you should be moved up to a 7.

Koop, I think at one time I was darn close to going up to a 7. Then I went into a funk where I wasn't enjoying league play and just lost heart and went into a tailspin. I am just now getting back to where I was before and I believe I may be up to a 7 before long.

Maniac

 

[poolplayer2093]

In my APA 9-ball league last night I was dubbed "sevenkiller" by one of my teammates. As a SL6 it seems that I almost always win my matches (as I again did last night) when paired against a SL7. I am of the mindset that I feel as though my chances are better when being spotted balls as opposed to spotting my opponents balls. I have the dickens-of-a-time playing the SL4's and most SL5's. I had rather play someone better than me anyway. It makes me bear down and focus better, therefore I play better. Now I am starting to wonder if maybe the nine ball spot difference between a SL6 and a SL7 is a tad too much? What do the APA 9-ball league players out there think?

Do I deserve the "sevenkiller" moniker or is the spot too high? Keep in mind that a lot of times I get my 46 balls while the SL7's are still in their 30's or low 40's ( I beat one a few weeks ago 46-22). I would like to test my theory on a few SL8's and SL9's, but there just aren't any in my APA area.

This post is most definitely not bragging as I know that in the real world of pool I am not a wart on a real poolplayers ass :embarrassed2:. Just wondering what y'all think about the nine ball spot difference between the two skill levels?

And please, PLEASE don't turn this into an APA-bashing thread!!!

Maniac

What's sad is that you gotta add that last paragraph. maybe you're right and the spot is too big. maybe the guys on your league can't manage the spot as well as they should be able to.