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Secaucus Fats

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I have used the Unique Products shaft sealer for some time now and it has always worked well but is somewhat expensive. Is it basically just a thinned down lacquer solution that I could make myself at home cheaply? If so, what's a good recipe for making your own sealer?

Thanks iin advance...
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Try Myland's Friction Polish mixed 50/50 with denatured alcohol. Myland's is available at Woodcraft stores or online. Let me know what your results are.

Martin




Secaucus Fats said:
I have used the Unique Products shaft sealer for some time now and it has always worked well but is somewhat expensive. Is it basically just a thinned down lacquer solution that I could make myself at home cheaply? If so, what's a good recipe for making your own sealer?

Thanks iin advance...
:smile:
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Just about any lacquer-based sanding sealer will serve you well.
No recipe, no whack, just use it straight out of the can. That's what it's for; sealing wood. Top it with a light coat of Carnuba and you're done.
The last I bought was $8/qt. I bought two.
 
I have used my own sealer for years,but I have switched to BRIANNA'S "SAVE A SHAFT". It is the best that I have ever used...JER
 
KJ Cues said:
Just about any lacquer-based sanding sealer will serve you well.
No recipe, no whack, just use it straight out of the can. That's what it's for; sealing wood. Top it with a light coat of Carnuba and you're done.
The last I bought was $8/qt. I bought two.
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What about wood turners finish? Think it would have good results?
 
What is denatured alcohol? The only thing I can find is at a pharmacy and that is 99% isopropyl. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places.
Actually asked the pharmacist and he said he'd never heard of it.
 
Blue Hog ridr said:
What is denatured alcohol? The only thing I can find is at a pharmacy and that is 99% isopropyl. Maybe I'm looking in the wrong places.
Actually asked the pharmacist and he said he'd never heard of it.
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Arrent denatured alcohol and methyl hydrate the same thing?
 
Denatured alcohol is ethyl alcohol (aka ethanol) - which is drinking alcohol. However, they add trace amounts of stuff to it that makes it poisonous. The bottle I have, which I bought at Walgreen's, is 70% ethanol with acetone, denatonium benzoate, methyl isobutyl ketone, and purified water.

As others have pointed out, the small amount of water in the 70% grade seems to raise the grain on my shafts - apparently the 99% grade does not or does not raise the grain so much.
 
GEBrown said:
Denatured alcohol is ethyl alcohol (aka ethanol) - which is drinking alcohol. However, they add trace amounts of stuff to it that makes it poisonous. The bottle I have, which I bought at Walgreen's, is 70% ethanol with acetone, denatonium benzoate, methyl isobutyl ketone, and purified water.

As others have pointed out, the small amount of water in the 70% grade seems to raise the grain on my shafts - apparently the 99% grade does not or does not raise the grain so much.
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Denatured alcohol is not readily available in Canada,only US
 
Wow!!!!!!!!!!

BLACKHEARTCUES said:
I have used my own sealer for years,but I have switched to BRIANNA'S "SAVE A SHAFT". It is the best that I have ever used...JER
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I agree Lee sent me a free bottle with a recent order and I tried it last night. The stuff is off the wall.

A customer wanted me to put on a tip an recondition his shaft and I remembered Lee's bottle sitting on my shelf. Since he had a goofy thread on his cue I did not have a maintenance pin for his cue.

I put his cue on my wood lathe with a cupped live center for cue tips and the shaft wanted to bounce pretty bad on half speed. I cleaned the shaft, step sanded it and brought the speed up while I was keeping a hand in the shaft for safety reasons. While keeping in touch with the wood I ran a paper towel across it while I put on Lee's stuff. I burnished it with a paper towel then hit it with 800, 1200, 2000, then burnished it with paper.

A funny thing happened to me while I was doing this! After the product was on there and I was going to 1200, I noticed that the shaft was no longer vibrating and I was able to take my hand off with no problem. After I finished burnishing it the last time, I put the lathe up to 2400 rpm and was able to take my hand off. It did not want to jump out between centers.

I know that I have seen this before with a dirty shaft where you sand it and it runs better. This shaft would not stay in the lathe at 1200 rpm after I cleaned and sanded it. It was the product that made it happen.

For years I have been using Mohawk Rapid Pads in the same way but it never had this effect and the finish never came out like the one I got last night. This product got down into the grain and stiffened up that shaft in a way that I have never experienced. This may sound like bullshit to some but believe me I am impressed beyond words. I have done thousands of shafts in my cue repair business because every time I do a tip for a customer, I recondition their shaft for free.

I am sold on this stuff and will never use rapid pads again. Before last night I would never have believed I would make that statement.

Rick Geschrey
 
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