huh??
What do you think your sarcasm hides the obvious hateraide that you're gulping???
Jaden
What do you think your sarcasm hides the obvious hateraide that you're gulping???
Jaden
Shane/Mike Match
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I agree!!!!!
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I second that, bar box is nearly instant gratification especially with 9/10 ball.
If only it were that simple. I love how people love to just slap a label on something and just call it a day, I guess we're all eager for that comfort of knowing what side of the line something falls on.
I'm actually not a Shane hater. But I refuse to turn a blind eye to the areas where he falls short. I've never been a huge sports fan, so a lot of the shenanigans people pull on here to justify his lack of performance overseas kinda doesn't make any sense to me. Make no mistake, I'll be happy for him and a little relieved when that day finally comes that he wins a major title playing overseas against a world-class field outside of a matchroom exhibition event. But until that day comes, I'm not gonna put him on a pedestal and claim like he's untouchable when it's been proven several times that it just isn't so. Best in the world? Prove it, just like he's proven that he's undoubtedly the #1 player the U.S. has to offer. I believe the term is "paper champion"?
hahahahahaa....
All I can do to this type of comment is lol....
And then people try to claim it ain't hateraide and try and turn it around into nuthuggerz....lol....
"Come see me when ANY of the people you claim are better have three peated majors like Shane has..."
Jaden
All I can do to this type of comment is lol....
And then people try to claim it ain't hateraide and try and turn it around into nuthuggerz....lol....
"Come see me when ANY of the people you claim are better have three peated majors like Shane has..."
Jaden
Omg what dont the Shanetards understand
The firsr guy said he doesn't know how anyone can argue that shane isn't the best in world
I plus several others states reason why he's not
Nobody is saying he isn't a top pro
Nor is he is not one of the best in world
But he isn't the hands down best player in the world which was what I responded
And yes he still has lot to prove to many
Outside the U.S. especially he has helluva lot
He's been Europes best player last few years and still hadn't won a full international fielded tournament
The firsr guy said he doesn't know how anyone can argue that shane isn't the best in world
I plus several others states reason why he's not
Nobody is saying he isn't a top pro
Nor is he is not one of the best in world
But he isn't the hands down best player in the world which was what I responded
And yes he still has lot to prove to many
Outside the U.S. especially he has helluva lot
He's been Europes best player last few years and still hadn't won a full international fielded tournament
If your ten year old beat you in a race to 21 in your home room at your best game for around $50,000 then I'd say it is significant
Nobody said he isnt top ten
Boy who started this said he couldn't see why anyone could argue shane is not the best in world
Several have explained why there is good arguments he is not
Appleton and shane both turned pro In American pool in 07 look what each has won then talk
Daz world 8,9,10 an straight pool world games etc etc
Well if you want to use the past , I'll drop the 2 and slide Shane further down the list
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They don't play better, regardless of what tournaments they've won."Better player than Shane" ??
who haven't won w a single 8, 9 or 10 ball World championship apart from world pool masters.
I do think there's a lot who's on par or better,
Ko brothers n both Chang from Taiwan , Darren Appleton n the filipinos ??
Those are some to consider buddy
i love & respect Shane for the player & the man that he is. i like you & your son rocks! but your "3 consecutive Open wins", needs to be qualified.
imagine if - after the Kos beat SVB last JUL, they had been allowed to come back for the Open in OCT?
it would have only been 2 consecutive titles. and Barry would have had to PAY them.
wins 3 U.S. Opens in a row but can't win anything overseas. Doesn't pass my smell test. Then again, maybe I just think too much. 
You point at Appleton, Shane beat him in their TAR match, going by your reasoning that if Ko beat Shane one match Ko must be better, Shane beat Darren that one match so that makes Shane better.
One match, or even a handful of matches do not make for a argument that a player can't play against someone.
There is not a single match that you can point to that will show anyone that a player is better overall than another.
From your posts you have a clear bias either against Shane or the fact that people think he is a great player, so anything that comes out of that is tainted. Do you have long term stats for the players vs each other?
Not long ago a top player posted that he could take out his d!@k and run the balls out with it on a 7 footer.
Obviously it wasn't Alex! Lol
Obviously it wasn't Alex! Lol
While what you said is true, I don't think its a very good way to argue your position. What I mean is when someone says XXXX player beat Xxxxx player this one time at XXXX event, well yeah that's true but NO ONE has ever not lost a set to whomever on any given day. Anyone can lose a set to anyone at any time. I believe the folks that are saying SVB is the best in the world is basing this on overall, long term play. No one would ever say so SVB hasn't went completely undefeated for his entire career so therefore he CAN NOT BE THE BEST!
As far as the World Championship aspect; I do honestly believe at some point in the future he will take some down. But with that being said, not that he doesn't get ANY action but the line of people stepping up to get in action with SVB isn't that big of a line. Just saying.
I would never say that there aren't any number of players that can't beat SVB a set on any given day AND / OR could take the cash down on any given day but overall I do believe he is currently the best player in the whole wide universe and then some!!!
I feel like Shane is kind of the Adrian Peterson of pool(minus the child abuse) He may not be the BEST every year in and out, but he's one of the top players year in and year out and just like AP every year the best are compared to or claim to be better than him. He's pools measuring stick for top players with the ability to dominate anyone on the planet at any time yet sometime gets tackled for a loss 10 times in a row before he busts a 296yd game. Most fade, after one or a few good years while he will more than likely stay near the top until retirement and be remembered as one of the best ever even if he doesn't win the "superbowl" of pool or one of em....
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Wtf is the point of this argument? Everyone has a favorite player and that's who they will think is better. Then if they say your guy isn't #1 you argue, they argue, rinse and repeat.
I like SVB and if you don't that's fine. If you say so and so is better, I'm ok w that too. I can't live my life thru the accomplishments of my favorite pool player, nor will I be offended bc I'm not SVB. SVB speaks for himself and that goes for any person.
Now w that said... If you like ur guy vs SVB then you wouldn't mind betting on them right? But don't take a whole field of players vs SVB and then diminish his creditability as one of the best.
I like SVB and if you don't that's fine. If you say so and so is better, I'm ok w that too. I can't live my life thru the accomplishments of my favorite pool player, nor will I be offended bc I'm not SVB. SVB speaks for himself and that goes for any person.
Now w that said... If you like ur guy vs SVB then you wouldn't mind betting on them right? But don't take a whole field of players vs SVB and then diminish his creditability as one of the best.
Just one note to actionplayer, if a player loses doesn't make him instantly disqualify from being the best player for somebody, a best player to someone is different to the best player to someone else. EVERYBODY loses in pool or any pocket sport for that matter.
My best player in the 90s was Earl Strickland, it has nothing to do with titles or tournaments or matches being won or lost, he won plenty, and lost plenty, they had so many great players back then, some people had Efren,being the best, thats cool. Efren won the 120 challenge, but lost so many times to Earl in tournaments and especially in the finals, I remember it was said that in the early 90s efren had a slumb on the finals against Earl, and Earl always won the finals, but I don't normally argue this you know why? because it has nothing to do with it, both of them are great players.
The reason I brought up pocket sports in general is also to mention Ronnie the rocket o'sullivan, for me he's the best snooker player ever, like since the beginning of snooker in my book he is the greatest, yet he lost so many times, I can't count them.
Losing has nothing to do with a person perspective of whom being the best in their head, thats all I'm gonna say.
My best player in the 90s was Earl Strickland, it has nothing to do with titles or tournaments or matches being won or lost, he won plenty, and lost plenty, they had so many great players back then, some people had Efren,being the best, thats cool. Efren won the 120 challenge, but lost so many times to Earl in tournaments and especially in the finals, I remember it was said that in the early 90s efren had a slumb on the finals against Earl, and Earl always won the finals, but I don't normally argue this you know why? because it has nothing to do with it, both of them are great players.
The reason I brought up pocket sports in general is also to mention Ronnie the rocket o'sullivan, for me he's the best snooker player ever, like since the beginning of snooker in my book he is the greatest, yet he lost so many times, I can't count them.
Losing has nothing to do with a person perspective of whom being the best in their head, thats all I'm gonna say.