Nothing, except that Dippy sweated some of the Scott/Van Boening action.
Shane / Scott Showdown
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Nothing, except that Dippy sweated some of the Scott/Van Boening action.
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As you know, Shane won the 8-7 match, $15K. Then they played a 10 hour match 9-8 and Shane was 3 ahead at the end, but instead of prorating, they decided to play the next day. At the end of 22 hours they were dead even. The next and possibly final match will be today, possibly at 3pm Pacific Daylight Time. Like the first match, this one is for $15K.
Scott's superior one-pocket savvy has been showing up big time, but Shane's pure shooting ability, plus the fact that he is a quick learner, brought him back yesterday from a 3-game deficit. So far, Shane has been the only one on the hill (7 games), and that was the first day, twice. Since then it has been seesaw back and forth between Shane being up 3 games and Scott being up 3 games (4 games once). To Scott's credit, he began the second day 3 down, but won 7 straight to put him in the lead by 4 games. But after 32 hours play this second set, it is dead even. Each player has seemed about to go down when they reached down deep and came up with some outstanding play to not only pull out of a tailspin, but to put themselves back in the lead. It is anyone's guess who will prevail; they are really that dead even at 9-8. If Scott wins he can still claim number one in one-pocket. If Shane wins, it will be up in the air who's the best, since they have not yet played even. At least that's the way I see it.
The lastest update:
As you know, Shane won the 8-7 match, $15K. Then they played a 10 hour match 9-8 and Shane was 3 ahead at the end, but instead of prorating, they decided to play the next day. At the end of 22 hours they were dead even. The next and possibly final match will be today, possibly at 3pm Pacific Daylight Time. Like the first match, this one is for $15K.
Scott's superior one-pocket savvy has been showing up big time, but Shane's pure shooting ability, plus the fact that he is a quick learner, brought him back yesterday from a 3-game deficit. So far, Shane has been the only one on the hill (7 games), and that was the first day, twice. Since then it has been seesaw back and forth between Shane being up 3 games and Scott being up 3 games (4 games once). To Scott's credit, he began the second day 3 down, but won 7 straight to put him in the lead by 4 games. But after 32 hours play this second set, it is dead even. Each player has seemed about to go down when they reached down deep and came up with some outstanding play to not only pull out of a tailspin, but to put themselves back in the lead. It is anyone's guess who will prevail; they are really that dead even at 9-8. If Scott wins he can still claim number one in one-pocket. If Shane wins, it will be up in the air who's the best, since they have not yet played even. At least that's the way I see it.
The lastest update:
As you know, Shane won the 8-7 match, $15K. Then they played a 10 hour match 9-8 and Shane was 3 ahead at the end, but instead of prorating, they decided to play the next day. At the end of 22 hours they were dead even. The next and possibly final match will be today, possibly at 3pm Pacific Daylight Time. Like the first match, this one is for $15K.
Scott's superior one-pocket savvy has been showing up big time, but Shane's pure shooting ability, plus the fact that he is a quick learner, brought him back yesterday from a 3-game deficit. So far, Shane has been the only one on the hill (7 games), and that was the first day, twice. Since then it has been seesaw back and forth between Shane being up 3 games and Scott being up 3 games (4 games once). To Scott's credit, he began the second day 3 down, but won 7 straight to put him in the lead by 4 games. But after 32 hours play this second set, it is dead even. Each player has seemed about to go down when they reached down deep and came up with some outstanding play to not only pull out of a tailspin, but to put themselves back in the lead. It is anyone's guess who will prevail; they are really that dead even at 9-8. If Scott wins he can still claim number one in one-pocket. If Shane wins, it will be up in the air who's the best, since they have not yet played even. At least that's the way I see it.
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dave
The lastest update:
As you know, Shane won the 8-7 match, $15K. Then they played a 10 hour match 9-8 and Shane was 3 ahead at the end, but instead of prorating, they decided to play the next day. At the end of 22 hours they were dead even. The next and possibly final match will be today, possibly at 3pm Pacific Daylight Time. Like the first match, this one is for $15K.
Scott's superior one-pocket savvy has been showing up big time, but Shane's pure shooting ability, plus the fact that he is a quick learner, brought him back yesterday from a 3-game deficit. So far, Shane has been the only one on the hill (7 games), and that was the first day, twice. Since then it has been seesaw back and forth between Shane being up 3 games and Scott being up 3 games (4 games once). To Scott's credit, he began the second day 3 down, but won 7 straight to put him in the lead by 4 games. But after 32 hours play this second set, it is dead even. Each player has seemed about to go down when they reached down deep and came up with some outstanding play to not only pull out of a tailspin, but to put themselves back in the lead. It is anyone's guess who will prevail; they are really that dead even at 9-8. If Scott wins he can still claim number one in one-pocket. If Shane wins, it will be up in the air who's the best, since they have not yet played even. At least that's the way I see it.
Thank you ZORRO,you cover from day1 until present,very nice of you,thanks again!
Don't forget, it is Scott who is GIVING the spot. The difference between the two players seem to be that when Scott gets in trouble, he tends to think his way out of it, and when Shane gets into trouble, he tends to shoot his way out of it. But that is an oversimplification. Both players shoot superbly and both players know and understand the thinking side of the game, the difference being that Shane has only been playing one-pocket for a year. And if you think Scott has no fire power, think again. He runs balls like it was a bar table. :lmao:
PS-- The action is on the Diamond table in the pit at Pool Sharks.
Your on for $100, they are supposed to be starting now but if they are not playing then no big deal. Good luck.
The lastest update:
As you know, Shane won the 8-7 match, $15K. Then they played a 10 hour match 9-8 and Shane was 3 ahead at the end, but instead of prorating, they decided to play the next day. At the end of 22 hours they were dead even. The next and possibly final match will be today, possibly at 3pm Pacific Daylight Time. Like the first match, this one is for $15K.
Scott's superior one-pocket savvy has been showing up big time, but Shane's pure shooting ability, plus the fact that he is a quick learner, brought him back yesterday from a 3-game deficit. So far, Shane has been the only one on the hill (7 games), and that was the first day, twice. Since then it has been seesaw back and forth between Shane being up 3 games and Scott being up 3 games (4 games once). To Scott's credit, he began the second day 3 down, but won 7 straight to put him in the lead by 4 games. But after 32 hours play this second set, it is dead even. Each player has seemed about to go down when they reached down deep and came up with some outstanding play to not only pull out of a tailspin, but to put themselves back in the lead. It is anyone's guess who will prevail; they are really that dead even at 9-8. If Scott wins he can still claim number one in one-pocket. If Shane wins, it will be up in the air who's the best, since they have not yet played even. At least that's the way I see it.
I will still take Efren over both of them in one hole.
Shane has been playing one pocket alot longer then a year, ask around
True, but not so seriously, if you believe the street.
Anyway, here's the rundown:
I arrived at Pool Sharks at 3pm, and Shane and Scott had already been there and left. According to Ed Kelly (yes, Champagne Ed Kelly), they agreed not to continue play. Shane is heading to China soon to play a tournament there. Anyway, I think the evidence is pretty convincing that the two are evenly matched. Forget the one ball, or is it one/half ball at 9-8 :grin:, but I'm sure Scott will not. I doubt the outcome would be any different if they had played even up-- to which I'm sure Scott Frost fans will wholeheartedly disagree. But really, how many games do you think between these two would hinge on one ball one way or the other? It's really a joy to sweat this level action, with run-outs from every conceivable position and table configuration. At times, both of there play seemed to defy human capability and the laws of physics.
Who would disagree? But don't forget, Shane is only 26/27. Efren is approaching 60. Shane has the same outstanding mechanics and stroke. Isn't it only a matter of time before he equals, maybe even surpasses, the great one? He pulled a few "magic" tricks of his own in the match with Scott. How he managed to pull off a couple of shots, I'll never know. I was wondering, "Is he that good, or was it luck?"
That sucks, I was just about to head down there to check 'em out. Been too busy the past few days. Oh well, at least I found out here before I burned the gas.
While I think Shane is a great talent, it is a bit presumptious to talk about him surpassing the all-time greats like Efren, Earl, Mosconi, etc.
No doubt Shane is talented, I guess we will have to wait about 30 years and see if he is still around adn able to play like Efren does at 58.
And so will I, for the time being......... :grin-devilish:
I think the real test will be to see if Shane matures to play as Efren did in his absolute prime. Unfortunately, Efren did not take on one-pocket in his prime, although he seems to have mastered it anyway if being the world's greatest one-pocket champion means anything.
I'd take Shane over Efren now in nine-ball and eight-ball play, but in one-pocket?... who comes anywhere near the master...? or should we still call him the magician? As far as I'm concerned, he has revolutionized one-pocket, bringing new dimensions to a game that was once thought to be set in stone. Watching him do feats that were once thought to be too difficult for being the "right shot" and making it look easy and effortless, makes me think Shane still has a long way to go-- but he does have the talent and I am expecting him to reach that same pinnacle of excellence as Efren. Besides that, he doesn't seem to have any of the bad habits that have ruined many a would-be great in the game of pool. To me he is the brightest hope of retaining (or regaining) American dominance. Others may play it-- but it's OUR game!Perhaps. Currently my money's on him, so to speak.
I think the real test will be to see if Shane matures to play as Efren did in his absolute prime. Unfortunately, Efren did not take on one-pocket in his prime, although he seems to have mastered it anyway if being the world's greatest one-pocket champion means anything.
Well said. I have had the pleasure if getting to see Efren play in persona. I love telling people in the crowd what he is going to do and they look at me like I'm nuts, then he does exactly what I said he was going to do and they look at me and say "how did you know that, I didn't even know that was possible", I just laugh and say well now you know.
I can't wait until Oct. when i am supposed to play his some cheap sets of one pocket with a BIG spot, it will be fun.
I think the real test will be to see if Shane matures to play as Efren did in his absolute prime. Unfortunately, Efren did not take on one-pocket in his prime, although he seems to have mastered it anyway if being the world's greatest one-pocket champion means anything.
And possibly following in Shane's footsteps, re. the future of U.S.A. One Pocket, is 19 yr. old Jesse Engel - good level headed attitude, playing pretty strong One Pocket right now and getting better all the time.
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he has a long ways to go. Earl was the greatest tournament 9 ball player ever in his prime. Efren, the jack of all trades and Mosconi, the 14.1 master. All 3 maintained greatness over decades. Not saying Shane can't do it, but lets wait awhile to see.
Zorro...This is a great assessment from a curbside perspective! :thumbup: Lucky you, and anyone else who was able to watch these two champions play each other for days! Thanks for sharing your opinion!
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