Ship Overseas Darn it!

gobrian77

gobrian77

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I've gotten shut down twice this week by sellers who won't ship overseas (I'm in Thailand).:mad:

I've got more positive iTrader feedback than most people on the "For Sale" forum, every transaction has gone off without a hitch, I'm an American guy living over here and doing business, I'll pay extra for the shipping charges, I've met a respected member in person (Cuaba) who would vouch for me...

It's not like my enquiries start off with an offer to deposit $20,000,000 into your bank account if you'll just send me your cue and $5,000 to set things in motion.:p

I can completely understand why a seller would be cautious with a newbie with no prior transactions, but wouldn't most give an established buyer a shot?

I hate to see people complaining about the cue market (from a seller's point of view) when they shut down their options themselves.
 
I don't understand why anyone won't ship overseas if the payment for the cue was received + extra for international shipping, insurance etc.

On the other hand, if someone is selling a cue for $3000 I think they should cover the $30 for international shipping...
 
Sorry to hear about your troubles. Let's find this guy a cue already. By the way I'm still thinking about pattaya and koh samui for new year's. Not sure yet. Bump. Forgot to add that Tommie (tommie1351) is a very well known and respected seller who will gladly ship overseas. He usually has a lot of stock and is great to deal with. Right now he has a SWEET scruggs plain jane. PM him or give him a call to see what he has. Tommie is in California 209-823-9444.


John
 
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runout1961 said:
Sorry to hear about your troubles. Let's find this guy a cue already. By the way I'm still thinking about pattaya and koh samui for new year's. Not sure yet. Bump.

John
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Make your plans soon- my place is already ~50% booked for New Year's- it's always packed here at that time.:wink:
 
Edited my post see above. We would do Pattaya for new year's and then relax in koh samui for a few days.

John
 
skor said:
I don't understand why anyone won't ship overseas if the payment for the cue was received + extra for international shipping, insurance etc.

On the other hand, if someone is selling a cue for $3000 I think they should cover the $30 for international shipping...
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Well, for me it's the pricing of the shipping cost. You can't really get a good estimate on the price of shipping to other countries.

Another aspect is insurance. I know that some countries are very shady. Their customs people steal good items. I sent a package to a country in asia last month, and 2/10 item was stolen. I called my relatives and they told me that the package was opened, searched, and pretty much ramsacked.

I really don't want to send overseas because I don't know their policies. With USA, the ethics is better (i hope and assume) and it's a Felony to open another person's mail...and you're insured with USPS.

That is from my personal experience. That is one reason I am skeptic to ship to other countries.
 
Duce said:
Well, for me it's the pricing of the shipping cost. You can't really get a good estimate on the price of shipping to other countries.

Another aspect is insurance. I know that some countries are very shady. Their customs people steal good items. I sent a package to a country in asia last month, and 2/10 item was stolen. I called my relatives and they told me that the package was opened, searched, and pretty much ramsacked.

I really don't want to send overseas because I don't know their policies. With USA, the ethics is better (i hope and assume) and it's a Felony to open a mail...and you're insured with USPS.

That is from my personal experience.
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Fair enough, but I DO know the local policy, and once it leaves your hands properly packed and shipped, it becomes my responsibility.:wink:
 
Yeah, I usually just tell the person to send me $50 for the shipping intl. and I refund whatever is over the cost. I scan, and show them the reciept after i get it.

Because this way, I charge for the exact cost and without asking for more money if the estimate was incorrect.

Good luck. If I had cues, I would ship it. Creditability is golden. You have the reps to back it up. Good luck, again.

ps: I am thinking about going to Thailand this year. 1. Muay Thai 2. Thai food 3. Ride an elephant 4. get some cool Siamese "Plakat".
 
Overseas

Well, as you could guess i am from the UK and so international shipping has been essential for me to build a collection. Slightly different in my case to some other countries as the security of mail is very good. The problem from my end is the cost of shipping out of the UK. If you send me a cue it will cost you about $35 maybe, if i then send it right back to you it will be the best part of $75 plus insurance which on the last cue i shipped was a ridiculous $80 extra.

I am obviously more than happy to deal overseas, and have generally had to absorb some of the shipping costs to make the prices more reasonable for the buyer.

The way i see it is that if you are a buyer there is virtually no risk as the seller should just not send the cue until payment has cleared. Then just stipulate that insurance is the responsibility of the buyer, if you don't take it its your responsibility if the cue goes missing.

I would be a little more sceptical buying a cue from someone overseas unless they had an impecable reputation.
 
I realize I'm whining a bit here- obviously with the number of transactions I have there are sellers willing to send me stuff (thanks, all:thumbup: )- it's just that getting hit twice in a row kinda bothered me.:embarrassed2:
 
I am also based in chiangmai ,thailand:)I have receieved and shipped many cues to and from thailand and havent faced a problem(touchwood).

But yes i have been refused a few times as well and as a result lost some good deals also.Whenever i recieve goods shipped thru usps they are opened and checked by customs however thru ups i havent seen that happen yet.But usually these are random checks and your goods could or could not be opened by customs.I have never had any case of stealing out of my shipment yet.It is very important for them to make these checks as in todays environment anything is possible.
I feel countries like thailand,singapore and malaysia are quiet safe to deal with in the southeast asian region.

As for people shipping out the us it should be fairly same as shipping domestic.except the fact that they have to write an internatonal address and fill a custom declaration form and pay extra charges which any of us is more than willing to pay.Though i have not met gobrian yet but still i can vouch for him that he is a good guy to deal with.
 
Even I?m not living in Thailand :p
I made also experience that some AZ people don?t send to Germany.
Last time I wanted to buy a TS from the forum, the seller rejected me due to it, that I?m in Germany :angry: I offered him to wire the money in advance !!
He still rejected to sell to me, hoenstly no idea why :confused: :confused:
 
I have shipped at least 10 high end cues overseas in the past 3-4 months and have yet to have a problem. I have done several deals in Thailand both coming and going and never had an issue. As long as you're willing to pay the price, shipping normally is no more difficult than filling out one extra piece of paper for customs. Let me know what your looking for, I'll ship it to you without a problem.

Doug
 
It is definatelly a place to visit. In addition, i will have someone to play pool as well :)
 
Personal contact

I have faced your problems, too. The best way is pesonal contact on the phone. That solves many problems!

By the way, do you have a pool table at your resort? And if you do, do you offer some play? That would make me think about stopping by:)

Regards, Tim
 
Lucky#Nine said:
I have faced your problems, too. The best way is pesonal contact on the phone. That solves many problems!

By the way, do you have a pool table at your resort? And if you do, do you offer some play? That would make me think about stopping by:)

Regards, Tim
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No table at the resort (it would have to be open-air right next to the ocean, which wouldn't do a table any favors:D ).

I've got a table at the house- Cuaba schooled me but good on it a few months ago- we're gonna meet in Bangkok in the next couple of months at one of the local poolrooms- I've been practicing...:embarrassed2:
 
UK-Collector said:
The problem from my end is the cost of shipping out of the UK. If you send me a cue it will cost you about $35 maybe, if i then send it right back to you it will be the best part of $75 plus insurance which on the last cue i shipped was a ridiculous $80 extra.

I am obviously more than happy to deal overseas, and have generally had to absorb some of the shipping costs to make the prices more reasonable for the buyer.
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I live in Australia. I am with you in this. I have bought few cues from the US and the shipping was expensive but I can accept that as long as those babies get here in good condition. Some sellers charged me for what they paid for but some charged me more. Once I bought a Mezz Break cue from a reputable online store and was told that it doesn't come with the JPs so I had to purchase a pair of JPs for the cue and the shipping increased by $15. 2 weeks later the cue showed up with 2 sets of JPs. I was so p!$sed but sending it back and trying to get refund was not worth it at all.

Last week I bought a cue, didn't like the feel. I had to let it go on ebay and lost about 30% of what I paid for just for the delivery from the US and to the buyer.
 
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It's Not About The Added Shipping For Me, It's About The Legality Of It.

I'll Ship You Whatever You Want, But Not If It Has Ivory In It.
 
For what it is worth, I have sold 2 or 3 cues to GoBrian and shipped them to Thailand with no problems. For anyone considering doing business with him, I would recommend him.

Joe
 
I ship overseas. My policy is FOB Jackson, TN. I follow the buyers shipping directions to the letter. I will not ship uninsured.
 
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