That place is a bar-b-q joint in bumfuk Missouri. What else do they have for entertainment? This is probably front-page news down at the local diner and hair salon.
Should the live streamer have stopped filming Billy's match when the verbal back-and-forth began?
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Biloxi Boy
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You got me. The shame . . .
Nobody questioned that. I only pointed out your perspective is basically inapplicable to most of the pool world.When to Use a Release
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You got me. The shame . . .
Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
Law is applicable to pool? Law is inapplicable to videos? Why do we see blurred faces and "cropped" videos everywhere? When one undertakes to video any subject, he cannot determine what the ultimate use of the video will be. Believe this, the first thing mainstream media will ask for is the release. The best practice is to get the release and cover all bases. Employ best practices . . . cover all bases . . . you are right, my views are wholly inapplicable to the pool world.
I really can't imagine blaming a video producer for somebody else being a drunken asshole.
I do not own a room/club/bar but if i did it would be old-school video-free. I would respect both mine and my player's privacy. To paraphrase a lil' city out in the desert, "What happens in the poolroom stays in the poolroom." Everybody with a phone is the media these days and they'll do ANYTHING to get some 'likes'.
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Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
Someone here must know whether Accu-Stats uses written contracts and/or releases? Matchroom?
Contact oldzilla. That's Accu-Stats contact here on AZ.
Why hide what quite often occurs in a pool room/ bar setting when folks drink and gamble - this should not be news to anyone who has been around pool for some time, it is not that out of the ordinary, have witnessed and participated in several pool room gambling disputes throughout my life.
It is one reason I have not participated in pool room or bar room pool gambling for the last 30 years. it is also one reason why non billiard related sponsors ( corporate America) have run away from pool for the most part since the hey day of pool in the 20s and 30s.
No reason to hide from reality- I don't see any clean- up advocates doing much about it anyhow.
It is one reason I have not participated in pool room or bar room pool gambling for the last 30 years. it is also one reason why non billiard related sponsors ( corporate America) have run away from pool for the most part since the hey day of pool in the 20s and 30s.
No reason to hide from reality- I don't see any clean- up advocates doing much about it anyhow.
Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
Last thing I would want to be is a videographer with a $1,000,000 video negotiating with a buyer who requires/demands a release, and I failed to obtain one at the outset. Trying to obtain an "after the fact" release under such circumstances will, in all liklihood, be a very expensive proposition. (Personally, I would chop up the cash in a second but some "businessmen" would see it differently.)
Disconnected again.
Like the players, streamers aren't of sufficient resource to have concern with such things. Can't get blood from a stone.
I have millions owed to me (my employer) that is supported by Court judgements Never gonna get that debt satisfied.
Biloxi Boy
Man With A Golden Arm
But can't a stone get blood?
He's a pioneer. LOL
He coulda stopped the feed but wouldn't have stopped shooting. What photo journalist woulda stopped?
The streamer goes on! Billy realized the contract he signed with Cuetec didn't allow this type of behavior. I also believe Cuetec would of done the same thing if it was SVB. When your a player rep you need to show pool in a positive light at all times.
No he shouldn't have made the effort to stop the stream. From what I gather the players knew it was being streamed, so what responsibility does the streamer have to manage the recording based on events...?
The more interesting thing at this point is whether or not we see a drop in streamed action matches. Although I think the right precedent has been set here. It may just result in players opting to protect themselves. ...and I'm not just talking about the fringe pros with questionable attitudes. I'm talking about top tier with wouldn't normally say a word out of the side of their mouths. Why run the risk of something slipping and being called out, for no reward...?
The more interesting thing at this point is whether or not we see a drop in streamed action matches. Although I think the right precedent has been set here. It may just result in players opting to protect themselves. ...and I'm not just talking about the fringe pros with questionable attitudes. I'm talking about top tier with wouldn't normally say a word out of the side of their mouths. Why run the risk of something slipping and being called out, for no reward...?
I think the live-streamer doesn’t have any obligation one way or another. It was his choice to make. On one hand he has to decide for himself what best puts food on his plate and he needs to live with whether he got it right or not. One person has said that he might find himself in more demand if he looks out for the players’ interests. I do think that’s not a bad perspective.
yea but also if you did own a room wouldn't you throw out a guy bashing balls on the table and physically assaulting his opponent?
