should we make new tournament rule/ipods?

My wife knows that when I play pool my phone is off. We have an understanding that if she needs me. And I stress needs me (an emergency situation) she can call the pool room. If I get a call there, then I know something is up and I need to take the call. Same goes for anyone who is important to me. They have the number to contact me. That way my phone doesn't distract my opponent or me either one.
 
George said:
My apologies dub, as I said before I wasn't directing that post towards you. These posts are the ones that kind of aggravated me because they obviously don't get it and don't understand proper pool etiquette. I should have quoted them originally.

To you three above, do some research on proper pool etiquette and then try to show some. Your collective attitudes are terrible. I'll get you started.

http://suite101.com/article/etiquette-when-playing-pool-billiards-and-snooker-a276485

You all probably think it's okay to take or make a call or text in a movie theater too.
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Lol. I don't think its ok to make a call during a movie. But I DO find it puzzling that me, sitting in a seat, looking at something in my hand, an action that makes absolutely ZERO noise and requires little to no movement (unless you're having a seizure at the moment) could be considered a distraction to you OR, even more baffling, a sign of disrespect.

Now, if I walked around the table, phone in hand, texting between shots, taking calls and talking, taking breaks so that I could text my friend about something stupid that happened the night before, etc., then yeah. There's no place for that. As well, I would never do that.

But if I'm sitting still while you're doing YOUR thing at the table, I don't see how looking down at my hand could be distracting OR disrespectful. If you could explain that to me, perhaps I'd change my mind on the matter. But until then, I just think you need to realize that this isn't as horrible as you're making it out to be. Its more of a pet peeve. That's all.
 
Icon of Sin said:
You're right about the hypocrisy, which is why I corrected my quote.

Along the lines of the etiquette quotes you posted, these people have no link to our current day or the situation we are talking about and are therefore void. They are from business practices or from an era that is long gone, much like the etiqquette beliefs that you are spouting about.

Sorry, but neither apply pool or the current generation.
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Are you implying that etiquette has no place in our current generation?
I am 27, so by no means old. But just because we have all these electronic devices to play with doesn't make it ok to do so all the time.

What if I liked to race cars and lived right next to you and decided that I wanted to work on my engine all night. Reving the engine as hard as I could a keeping you from doing what you do at home, which should be spend time with your family, because of how loud it was. If I said get with the times, we make cars go fast and be loud now, LIKE IT OR GET OVER IT, you would think that was very disrespectful wouldn't you.
 
warfdiesel said:
Are you implying that etiquette has no place in our current generation?
I am 27, so by no means old. But just because we have all these electronic devices to play with doesn't make it ok to do so all the time.

What if I liked to race cars and lived right next to you and decided that I wanted to work on my engine all night. Reving the engine as hard as I could a keeping you from doing what you do at home, which should be spend time with your family, because of how loud it was. If I said get with the times, we make cars go fast and be loud now, LIKE IT OR GET OVER IT, you would think that was very disrespectful wouldn't you.
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So you're comparing the loud revving of engines at night to someone looking at a phone? You DO see the difference, don't you???

One is loud and distracting. The other makes almost no noise (if any) at all.

I agree that etiquette isn't something that should be disregarded. It SHOULD have a place in our generation. But I think this entire thread is based less on proper etiquette or more about one or two people's pet peeves. You don't institute change on the masses because a handful of guys get annoyed when I look at my hand. If that's the case, I find the Ed Hardy t-shirts annoying. They're obnoxious and one could very reasonably argue ''distracting". We should lobby to have all regional amateur and professional tours ban people from wearing them. Ever. Period.
 
Is that @$$ *&^% still texting ????

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Let's Play Pool !!!
 
warfdiesel said:
Are you implying that etiquette has no place in our current generation?
I am 27, so by no means old. But just because we have all these electronic devices to play with doesn't make it ok to do so all the time.

What if I liked to race cars and lived right next to you and decided that I wanted to work on my engine all night. Reving the engine as hard as I could a keeping you from doing what you do at home, which should be spend time with your family, because of how loud it was. If I said get with the times, we make cars go fast and be loud now, LIKE IT OR GET OVER IT, you would think that was very disrespectful wouldn't you.
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Mia (above post) beat me to it.

Me sitting in my seat texting and not making any noise while your shooting is in no way similar to you revving an engine in the middle of the night.

Hell, you sitting outside texting in the middle of the night while I'm sleeping has more relevance.
 
cueporn said:
Would you be texting during our $100 set?
If I miss while your texting, good luck getting paid!

Pretty soon newborns will just have a chip installed in their heads. Just show the mininum respect for your opponents, not too much to ask.
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If you dog it because I'm sitting in my chair texting and not making any noise then that is your problem.

...and if you dont pay and use that as an excuse you better believe I would not give you any action ever again and everyone in the damn area would hear that ridiculous shit as well.

I would actually hope my opponent is more engaged in something else other then the match. That would give me the upper hand. Orcullo vs. Eberle in the Derby 14.1 finals this year is a perfect example of that.
 
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Icon of Sin said:
Mia (above post) beat me to it.

Me sitting in my seat texting and not making any noise while your shooting is in no way similar to you revving an engine in the middle of the night.

Hell, you sitting outside texting in the middle of the night while I'm sleeping has more relevance.
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Still goes back to the same thing. You should have enough respect for your opponent that if it bothers them you shouldn't do it.

I used the car thing as an example because I lived next to a guy one time that did that. At all hours of the day and night. I ask him to stop and he said piss off. His land lord made him move eventually but man did it suck.
 
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warfdiesel said:
Still goes back to the same thing. You should have enough respect for your opponent that if it bothers them you shouldn't do it.

I used the car thing as am example because I lived next to a guy one time that did that. At all hours of the day and night. I ask him to stop and he said piss off. His land lord made him move eventually but man did it suck.
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The phone is on silent. That is showing that I have respect for him. I have headphones on rather then just letting the music play outloud through the device or playing something awful on the jukebox. That is showing I have respect for him (and everyone else in the room).

Along the lines of your neighbor. yeah man, I agree that's gotta suck.
 
warfdiesel said:
Still goes back to the same thing. You should have enough respect for your opponent that if it bothers them you shouldn't do it.

I used the car thing as am example because I lived next to a guy one time that did that. At all hours of the day and night. I ask him to stop and he said piss off. His land lord made him move eventually but man did it suck.
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So you're saying we should all adjust anything and everything we may do just to satisfy our opponents??

I played a guy last night who drinks Red Bull. I HATE Red Bull. The smell is disgusting. Are you saying I was well within my rights to tell him he couldn't drink that because he should respect the fact that the smell bothered me?
 
mia said:
So you're saying we should all adjust anything and everything we may do just to satisfy our opponents??

I played a guy last night who drinks Red Bull. I HATE Red Bull. The smell is disgusting. Are you saying I was well within my rights to tell him he couldn't drink that because he should respect the fact that the smell bothered me?
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I like Red Bull. There new magazine, Red Bulletin, showcases some of their extreme activities and athletes. Plus a years subscription to it is currently free. I only imagine because it is brand new and they are trying to get it started up. I signed up a month ago and received three issues already. Good mag for the most part.

https://www.redbulletinservice.com/subscribe7/
 
New Rules

...and the most recent rule adopted by all pool sanctioning bodies - everyone must have showered on the day they play.

B.O. is more offensive than someone using their text box.
 
I told a guy once I wouldn't play him in the tournament because he smelt like pure shit. And the TD made him leave. I hate red bull as well and if it is truly distracting to you then yes. Me personally I don't like the text thing either. Just like most people don't like it if someone is sitting in front of them and just moving there cue. I have seen several disagreements over something like that.

It's like foul language. It doesn't really bother me. But my brother, it truly bothers him so I don't cuss around him. Same would go for you of we played each other in a match. If I did something that really bothered you I would stop and just hope that you would do the same.
 
warfdiesel said:
I told a guy once I wouldn't play him in the tournament because he smelt like pure shit. And the TD made him leave. I hate red bull as well and if it is truly distracting to you then yes. Me personally I don't like the text thing either. Just like most people don't like it if someone is sitting in front of them and just moving there cue. I have seen several disagreements over something like that.

It's like foul language. It doesn't really bother me. But my brother, it truly bothers him so I don't cuss around him. Same would go for you of we played each other in a match. If I did something that really bothered you I would stop and just hope that you would do the same.
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And I would appreciate that. But again... this thread isn't about you extending a degree of courtesy or respect towards me and me you. Its about instituting new tournament rules.

If we go so far as to say "If I do something you don't like, let me know and I'll stop", then where exactly do we stop?!? If me sitting completely still in a chair and looking at my hand distracts someone, I have to say I find that remarkably petty and borderline insane. Who's to say that my scratching my ear doesn't distract him too. Should I not do that? Should we make a rule about that as well?

If the answer to this is all 'YES' across the board, then I suppose the next time I play and I see someone wearing an orange shirt, I'll ask him to remove it. Because man. I HATE the color orange. And he should respect that.
 
warfdiesel said:
Are you implying that etiquette has no place in our current generation?
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You know that's not what he's saying.

The point is that some stuff that used to be considered rude comes from a different era. It used to be rude to wear a hat indoors. Women were always expected to wear a slip with their dress and gloves at dinner. Putting your elbows on the table was a nono. And you'd have to be really low class to put condiments like ketchup on that same table.

That's just at home and the dinner table, there was a whole raft of unwritten rules for the office.

That stuff just isn't relevant anymore. It makes more sense to judge rudeness by intent, and by how much it negatively affects you. If there's no ill intent and it doesn't really affect you, then there's no rational reason to get upset about it.

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The whole headphones complaint seems to boil down to:
"I have to work harder to get someone's attention!"

You ever see those infomercials where someone is trying to do a routine task like pour milk, and it's INCREDIBLY HARD for some reason, and they just keep screwing it up and throw up their hands in frustration?

That's how AZB seems to treat getting someone's attention with headphones.
Seriously people it's not hard. Speak loudly or wave your stick in their line of sight.
 
warfdiesel said:
... If I did something that really bothered you I would stop and just hope that you would do the same.
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It really bothers me if you tell me to stop texting :)

In the world of it "really bothers me" - chewing too loud or with your mouth open is there but I also realize I'm not going to change someone's personal "habit" during the course of a pool game.

Standing in sight lines, moving during a shot, commenting on my (lack of) shape, or truly game related things, I have made strong suggestions to my opponent like "can you pick a place to stand".

If I'm shooting and my opponent is texting - they're not watching me and I don't care - I have enough respect for the GAME to call something on myself. My opponents respect of me is not important and never will be.
 
mia said:
And I would appreciate that. But again... this thread isn't about you extending a degree of courtesy or respect towards me and me you. Its about instituting new tournament rules.

If we go so far as to say "If I do something you don't like, let me know and I'll stop", then where exactly do we stop?!? If me sitting completely still in a chair and looking at my hand distracts someone, I have to say I find that remarkably petty and borderline insane. Who's to say that my scratching my ear doesn't distract him too. Should I not do that? Should we make a rule about that as well?

If the answer to this is all 'YES' across the board, then I suppose the next time I play and I see someone wearing an orange shirt, I'll ask him to remove it. Because man. I HATE the color orange. And he should respect that.
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I love how common sense has no place in some of these comments. You are bringing up things that would be considered silly. But I realize that everyone has there difference in opinion. And that is what makes this forum great is we can talk about it. Keep em coming though this is helping me pass a rainy day away on the car lot
 
warfdiesel said:
I love how common sense has no place in some of these comments. You are bringing up things that would be considered silly. But I realize that everyone has there difference in opinion. And that is what makes this forum great is we can talk about it. Keep em coming though this is helping me pass a rainy day away on the car lot
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And you being distracted by me looking at my hand and maybe moving my thumb from right to left in a range of maybe 1.5" isn't silly?

If you're down on a shot and I'm sitting in my seat, what do you care where I look? As long as its not a flashlight or a bullhorn in my hand, what the hell does it matter to you?
 
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