Should we start a petition to change the 5 ball back to orange again?

pt109

WO double hemlock
Silver Member
So traditionally why not go back to the other traditional aspects of the game?

Redundant question
Not so sure redundant is the right word here…..there have been improvements in the game.
…..but change for the sake of change has a bad record of working.
 

chefjeff

If not now...
Silver Member
Why did they change the colors in the first place?
I've not seen any professional Snooker matches where a promoter suddenly decides to swap colors on two of the balls.
Personally I don't like the 4 being orange at all. But I'd like to understand why this was done.

I don't want to bring up the unspeakable reason. But it's the only one that matches the stupidity of it.



Jeff Livingston
 

goatgod

Member
I totally agree that the color change was a minor mistake (that may have been worth trying) in a swell of great things that match room is doing for pool. The return to a traditional coloration of the balls is a simple fix that if implemented, would give the match room enterprise an upwelling of support and street cred that would really benefit their bottom line. I gather that the idea behind the experiment was to make the game more visually discernible for new viewers. However, the result seems to be that the beautifully logical coloration scheme that was instituted by the founders of the game has a power of subconscious enchantment that is not to be cast aside so readily. My hope is that this experiment investigating what exactly is the source of magnetism within this game will, in the end, be a blessing as it has expanded our collective awareness to include a bit more of why we love this game so much. Traditional orange five ball for the win, and God bless match room for helping to reignite the fire within our beloved past time, helping us all come into greater alignment with the sacred geometricians of old as they reach forward through time, gifting us with a truly inter-dimensional mirror of joyful and grand design with a beautiful balance of colors, spheres, and the twin perfect squares that they roll on. Surely, it takes only the recognition of the self evident to realize the truth.
 
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L.S. Dennis

Well-known member
As I understand it the reason they first started changing colors was for TV purposes only. Now that they are using the grey cloth and all balls stand out I like to see them go back the the original ball colors. That means a maroon 7 a Moby Grape 4 and an orange 5. While they are at it I’d like to see them ditch that ridiculous black and yellow 9 ball as well!
 

L.S. Dennis

Well-known member
Matchroom have been using the Aramith Black set with the purple 5 since 2019.

Why is this suddenly such a big deal now?
I suppose it’s been a big since it happened and hasn’t changed back yet. Kind of like someone breaking into your house and rearranging all the furniture, and when you report it local law enforcement say ‘you’ll just have to live with it’.
You feel violated somehow.
 

Bavafongoul

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
Like I posted previously, just adopt Centennials as the standard for pool balls.
As far as I’m concerned, neither a nicer design or object ball colors are available.
 

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Fatboy

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Matchroom have been using the Aramith Black set with the purple 5 since 2019.

Why is this suddenly such a big deal now?
One thing I do is keep it real and I’m honest,

Actually the truth is I wasn’t paying attention to pool balls, I speak to players(pros, armatures bangers often-It don’t matter how someone plays-if they love pool, they are solid in my book) and go to pool rooms, tourneys etc. but I wasn’t following pool to closely for a few years & didn’t notice it. I was slipping. I kept up on a few things and mostly spoke to people as I mentioned.

When it came to my attention I stirred the pot and started the “make the 5 orange again” international movement.

I have zero bad things to say about MR or anyone who works there. They have my highest respect.

I’m not a champion, just a guy who’s been around pool for a long time and I’ve been lucky to meet a zillion people in pool who I consider “pool family” and many of those people share my feelings.

So with a bit of luck and if enough people get behind this we can correct the color of the balls and preserve our heritage.

Best,
Fatboy 😃😃

Ps: sorry this isn’t well written I’m triple tired at the moment, but wanted to address it. It’s a valid question
 

336Robin

Multiverse Operative
Silver Member
I like an orange 5 as my preference but Pool is a business and Matchroom is very likely using new to the market ball sets.

As much as some of us don't like change those sponsors need to make sales and as long as they are providing free or cheaper ball sets
24 sets of balls isn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination and I think we are going to see even more new sets in the future.

Take the low deflection shaft market. We've migrated to carbon fiber shafts. I haven't done that yet but I have played with one I was thinking
of buying from a guy for a complete set of one pocket. I didn't like the dampening effect of the shaft I was playing with but its played well. I was about worn out afterwards and went back to my normal shafts. One of the best playing low deflection shaft's I've used is the original OB-1 with
the wooden ferrule. Time moves forward.
 

Dan White

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
I like an orange 5 as my preference but Pool is a business and Matchroom is very likely using new to the market ball sets.

As much as some of us don't like change those sponsors need to make sales and as long as they are providing free or cheaper ball sets
24 sets of balls isn't cheap by any stretch of the imagination and I think we are going to see even more new sets in the future.

Take the low deflection shaft market. We've migrated to carbon fiber shafts. I haven't done that yet but I have played with one I was thinking
of buying from a guy for a complete set of one pocket. I didn't like the dampening effect of the shaft I was playing with but its played well. I was about worn out afterwards and went back to my normal shafts. One of the best playing low deflection shaft's I've used is the original OB-1 with
the wooden ferrule. Time moves forward.
I think it matters who makes the change and why. If the decision is made by some ditz who knows more about snooker than pool and then admits they f'ed up then that's not OK in my book.

It's one thing to figure out how to make pool more popular on the one hand but to start over with a clean slate and wipe away all history is disrespectful of the game.
 

boogieman

It don't mean a thing if it ain't got that ping.
I just watched a match on tv last night. It was one of the CSI world championship Germany matches with Acros 2 balls.

When there was a lull in the game, the commentators were talking about sponsors, equipment, predator tables, cloth, etc. They also mentioned the Acros 2 ball set and that it was "traditional colors." I forget exactly what they said, but it was something to the effect of the beautiful ball set in traditional colors that pool players appreciate. :)

Matchroom might not be listening, but CSI commentators must be!
 

vapoolplayer

AzB Silver Member
Silver Member
From a sales/business standpoint, it makes sense for the tournament blacks to look different.

They could have left the 4 purple and made the 5 pink and been pretty close to original as well as still have the TV contrast.

But, it’s much easier to market something different when it looks different.

Sure, they can say “it has duramith and the arcos don’t.”

But we are visual creatures. So it looks different so it must be different.
 
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