Looks like you got a plug in the shaft hole buddyJoeyInCali said:
Show Off Those Sneakies!!
- Thread starter ridewiththewind
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Bocote, a little tighter threads too .billiardbum said:
It makes running out easier.
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jazznpool said:
Ah, jeez, Martin! You're killin' me!! That is an awesome piece of rosewood....I just don't know what else to say...really.
Lisa
Great cue. IMO, this one Martin is the limits of a Sneaky Pete. Maybe an additional collar. But some of these other cues, they're gorgeous but well beyond a Sneaky Pete. Unless we redefine the term.jazznpool said:
Maybe we need a new term that describes an ornated cue based on (but not necessarily built from) a full-spliced maple nosed cue. Or maybe we say "based on a Sneaky Pete," or some such qualifier.
As an aside, if we take a full-spliced ebony into purpeheart forearm, and put a purpleheart shaft on it, with no other decoration, would that be a Sneaky Pete?
Fred <~~~ will add a photo here sometime
Cornerman said:
Picky, picky!
Lol. Actually, I do agree that sneaky pete, in it's purist form, doesn't really apply to most cues labeled that way anymore. I know I had a discussion about this with Keith Josey. He actually doesn't like using the term with his ornate s/p cues, but for lack of a better description...I am not even sure that hustler would apply either, for some of the cues featured so far. The trick is finding a name/description that is going to as universally accepted as sneaky pete has.
Lisa
LOL!!!! Hot, hot, hot. Not so sneaky8-ball Rat said:Not sure if this would fall into the sneaky category...'cuz it's got all kinds of embellishment....but hey...there's no wrap!!
This thread reminds me of the time that Schon cues put a sneaky pete in their catalog. And it had trim rings and an SS collar, IIRC. Not many people considered that one very Sneaky Petish either! But, compared to this JC, that Schon is quite Sneaky!Fred
Cornerman said:LOL!!!! Hot, hot, hot. Not so sneaky
Fred
Fred, I was curious....would you consider Mark's Callaluca a full-splice or a long-splice?
Lisa
Interesting question!
I think "Full Splice" would be a good choice although I've seen many, what I believe to be half splice cues, that are considered Sneaky Pete's (i.e., Gilber SP Jump Breaks). Like ridewiththewind indicated in the original post, I've come to really like the elegant simplicity of some of these cues. I know part of my perception / appreciation for these cues comes from the fact that I see so many proficient players playing with them. On a slightly different subject, why is it that so few custom cue makers have the equipment to make these full spice cues when you can go to a number of places and get the blanks for very reasonable prices (i.e., $20 - $80)?
Cornerman said:
I think "Full Splice" would be a good choice although I've seen many, what I believe to be half splice cues, that are considered Sneaky Pete's (i.e., Gilber SP Jump Breaks). Like ridewiththewind indicated in the original post, I've come to really like the elegant simplicity of some of these cues. I know part of my perception / appreciation for these cues comes from the fact that I see so many proficient players playing with them. On a slightly different subject, why is it that so few custom cue makers have the equipment to make these full spice cues when you can go to a number of places and get the blanks for very reasonable prices (i.e., $20 - $80)?
Educate please
I think I know what a full splice is. What is your definition of a 'long splice'?
ridewiththewind said:
I think I know what a full splice is. What is your definition of a 'long splice'?
Jerry Yost said:
To be honest, I am not even sure that 'long-splice' is even a correct term. Full-splice would be like my Josey at the top of this thread. It's two pieces of wood spliced into one another, running the length of the cue. With the Callaluca, because of the rings in the butt sleeve, one has to deduce that the butt sleeve is a separate piece of wood (obviously from the same stock, as Joe did an amazing job of matching up the grain perfectly). However, I could be completely wrong. However, if this is indeed the case, I don't know that I would consider it a 'short-splice', and traditionally, these end at the handle.
Because, in this cue, it runs nearly the length of the cue, but not quite, I wonder if that would be considered a 'long-splice' or perhaps a 'short full-splice'. I figured that Fred would set me straight.
As to cuemakers using full-splice blanks....many do, and some prefer to do their own, where they have complete control over the quality and appearance of the cue currently under construction. Keith Josey does his own full-splices...and does not use weight bolts in these cues either.
Lisa
Jerry Yost said:
Maybe it's not a real term, but we could say that it's a full-length full-splice.
As opposed to a forearm short full-spice (short blank attached at the A-joint to the handle, or jump cue forearm)
or a forearm and handle full-splice (handle attached to the butt plate, handle is wrapped).
Or a forearm and handle full-splice with no wrap, but with an added butt plate like the JC cue.
We need some terms.
Fred
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Cornerman said:
Okay....my head hurts now.
Lisa
Jazz said:Here are a couple of "sneaky petes"
WOW! I really like the top one a lot!
Here are my playing cues, I made both of them last year!!!!!!
One is a Titlist Conversion, it has Purple Heart for the forearm, and Cocobolo for the Butt section. It also has a Ivory Butt CAP that was turned out of a Ivory Cue ball. The shaft for this cue was made from a 1890's one piece house cue that was perfectly straight. The wood used had 58 growth rings and it has the sweetest hit I have ever experienced.
The second cue is a Brunswick Balk Collender house cue Conversion. It has a curly rosewood forearm, with Zebra wood Butt rings, and a birdseye maple butt.
Have a great Day!!!!
Manwon
One is a Titlist Conversion, it has Purple Heart for the forearm, and Cocobolo for the Butt section. It also has a Ivory Butt CAP that was turned out of a Ivory Cue ball. The shaft for this cue was made from a 1890's one piece house cue that was perfectly straight. The wood used had 58 growth rings and it has the sweetest hit I have ever experienced.
The second cue is a Brunswick Balk Collender house cue Conversion. It has a curly rosewood forearm, with Zebra wood Butt rings, and a birdseye maple butt.
Have a great Day!!!!
Manwon
Lisa, what a great thread you started! Thanks for posting the pics of my 2001 Josey. You got the guys to get their camera's and pics out for us to see their sp! BTW, when I talked to Keith to place an order for my new Josey that's like yours but with a compressed Irish linen wrap, he said the splice was a "finger splice" and he does that himself. Just what I wanted!! I can't wait to get it.
Curly
Curly
thecure said:
First of all....I LOVE that avatar!!!!
That is just too cool for school...lol.
Cuemaker, eh?
Now to answer your question: This cue has a wonderful STIFF hit, terrific feedback, and is crazy solid feeling in the hand! I continue to be amazed at how well this cue performs for me. I have been very fortunate in the last several years to have owned some very fine playing cues, but this one is truly a gem.
Lisa
