That’s bad, horse gamblers are the sickest of the sick gamblers. That’s not fun and 180 degrees from me. I love action, but I’ve never been 1% addicted to gambling
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I fully agree.ONE POCKET IS IN STRONG CONTENTION FOR THE GREATEST GAME EVER!!
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You sound like Kamala....weird word salad.
I don't want pool unrecognizable from what it was.
Thanks, always made money on pool. In a variety of ways.
Certainly more than the guy making 3Ok a year, playing league 4 nights a week ignoring his wife cuz he thinks hes going to be the next SVB.
Pool is like golf.
I have no doubt that the very first time two players played each other in either game, there was some wager involved!
And I'm sure every one of those ways is what pool is "supposed to be". Like you know what pool is supposed to be. I don't know what pool is supposed to be either. None of us do. What makes your way of making money on pool better than mine? I target a group of people and give them something in which they find value. I'm sure that's what you did, too. If you didn't, that probably makes you a swindler, an insurance company, or a government. Maybe the value I provide isn't your value, but maybe it's what pool is "supposed to be". I certainly don't claim to know. I do know one thing, though. I've spent nearly half my life building something from scratch, something that wasn't here when I started but will be here long after I'm gone, no matter how it evolves.
As for the guy making 30K a year, who are you to judge how he spends his time and money, or how much attention he gives his wife? Everything evolves, even marriage. I don't know what marriage will look like 100 years from now, but it certainly doesn't look like it did 100 years ago. Besides, I'm sure there are 30K earners out four nights a week giving what we think is too much attention to getting "action" on pool and not enough attention to his wife. And if it's because he thinks he's going to be the next SVB, it's because that's where he finds value.
I'm not mad at all.
Gamblers are getting their fix with online betting becoming legal.
Bankrupts, and Divorce Lawyers should have booming business.
Bankrupts, and Divorce Lawyers should have booming business.
Okay, well....I have doubts. I guess we won't be on the same page in this discussion.Pool is like golf.
I have no doubt that the very first time two players played each other in either game, there was some wager involved!
You have the right to your opinion and I have the right to mine. Neither is right nor wrong.
To be fair, one of you is correct.
Either there was a wager, or there was not a wager.
Would I wager, if there was a way to find out the answer definitively..
Either there was a wager, or there was not a wager.
Would I wager, if there was a way to find out the answer definitively..
All you league ops are the same. You make sure everyone and their wife plays so you get in their wallets. Then you target their kids.
Saving American pool isn't going to happen from getting 1,000 SL3s in the game. We all constantly point out that we need more talent. The reason there isn't any is glaringly obvious.
Let's see I make good money, own a pool hall, live on lakefront property and can play for whatever I want. If you know how to play, have bankroll, can make good games and have some heart there's still opportunities to make money. Thing is guys like you make pool as boring as going to the library.
Meanwhile if you would dare play anybody with the 6 out and the breaks, your gonna be shaking because you are playing with air and have no game.
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I don’t know man. I don’t think trying to get everyone and their granny to play APA is a bad thing.
You want as many people as possible, especially young ones. And then a small number of those people will grow beyond the APA and maybe make it to your level of badassery.
Then the few, the proud, the insane will go beyond SBC level and possibly approach the world of jazzy Jeff87 where we sometimes don’t even bother making the pool games if we want someone’s cashish.
Not everyone can be an sbc, and not every sbc can be a JJ. The world spins and balances all things - Socrates.
You want as many people as possible, especially young ones. And then a small number of those people will grow beyond the APA and maybe make it to your level of badassery.
Then the few, the proud, the insane will go beyond SBC level and possibly approach the world of jazzy Jeff87 where we sometimes don’t even bother making the pool games if we want someone’s cashish.
Not everyone can be an sbc, and not every sbc can be a JJ. The world spins and balances all things - Socrates.
APA should embrace gambling. 4 pages deep on this topic, and nobody has provided their actual reason for prohibiting?? Please don't speculate that it's because it's supposed to be fun. Gambling (responsibly) has a tendency to make things MORE fun and interesting. Take, for example, the Super Bowl. The better part of 8 BILLION was wagered. Not to mention the proliferation of commercials for on-line sportsbooks in the lead-up. I refuse to believe the game was in some way diminished because of it, aside from those incredibly annoying commercials, themselves. More like 'enhanced', in the vast majority of cases.
Maybe the APA would have a change of heart if they could capitalize, say by taking $.25 cents per wager? They could track wagering as well. I bet (no pun intended) it would fix most sandbagging issues. Maybe add a checkbox on the scoresheet next to each match to indicate whether the two players are wagering? An amount to cover the nightly league fee ($8) is an obvious choice. They could create a hustler patch for the real league ballas. Maybe a dinner at the buffet in Vegas for the biggest ballas?
Maybe the APA would have a change of heart if they could capitalize, say by taking $.25 cents per wager? They could track wagering as well. I bet (no pun intended) it would fix most sandbagging issues. Maybe add a checkbox on the scoresheet next to each match to indicate whether the two players are wagering? An amount to cover the nightly league fee ($8) is an obvious choice. They could create a hustler patch for the real league ballas. Maybe a dinner at the buffet in Vegas for the biggest ballas?
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Gambling intensifies cheating and cheating intensifies fighting/violence.
We already have too much of BOTH in our pool halls/bars already.
I detest cheating and cheaters. You guys that gamble go fishing for an easy mark, hide your true speed (cheat) for a few racks or a set so the bet can be upped. That, or you'll give or take enough weight to where you know the other guy has no chance.
Like I stated in a previous post, I don't have anything against gamblers or gambling as long as it doesn't get so out of hand that you're losing your rent money of your kids college funds. I would have a problem with someone taking somebody else's rent money too. You just shouldn't bet with someone that you positively know cannot afford to lose his money. That said, I've seen my share of lowlifes that have done just that.
So gambling per se does not leave a bad taste in my mouth if done correctly, it's the lowlife degenerates that feed off of people that they KNOW have zero chance of success that bother me. There's probably more than a handful of these types of gamblers here on this forum, and they probably have no shame at all when they look themselves in the mirror.
I'm done here. And when I say I'm out, I stay out. So....carry on fellow AZB'ers!
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Point taken.
I'm not suggesting APA encourage playing for car titles. But if they simply institute an option to wager $8, it would provide their members a greater sense of the full experience. Whatever keeps the till ringing.
Then, some might start chasing losses, at which point APA would really have them hooked (which might sound bad, but let's not pretend their entire business model isn't already structured around retaining participants).
They owe me a free night if we ever see this come to fruition.
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