Situation Last Night

I was irked by a situation last night.

I was playing a local tournament with a calcutta. My stomach wasn't feeling great, so I wasn't sure if I wanted to stick around or not. I asked to be put in the unbid player pool. A gentleman buys the pool.

I end up in the hotseat. I've been waiting on matches for over an hour and just want to chop and go home. Waiting on a few matches, but people generally chop. It ends up being around 1:30am and my opponent is willing to chop and we agree to chop the tournament money. The guy who has me in the calcutta doesn't want to chop the calcutta money ($140 vs $200) with my opponent. I tell them several times I'm tired and want to go home and they should chop. They insist I play it out.

I thought about forfeiting, but I'm generally a nice guy. I play it out and it goes hill-hill and I win.

Not really any thanks and no jelly. I was irked. Got home after 2am and had to get up at 6am for work.
Congrats on winning dude
 
I don’t mind calcuttas and I used to always buy half of myself but over the last 3 years or so it’s gotten very hard to break even. There’s a race to 2 8 ball tournament that I go to on rare occasions. I usually sell for 300-350. Guess what 3 place usually pays. Yep somewhere right around 300. So I have to get at least 3 place every time I play or I lose money. Anymore I just pay entry fee and play for tournament money. Even when I don’t make the money I’m only out $20 for a night of playing pool.
 
45 minutes for a Calcutta??? Was it a 2 man tournament?? Its always the same thing, going once.....twice......three times..... then someone finally increases the bid, always right when the TO is about to say "sold" someone jacks it up. ....
One way to shorten the auction time is to start with a silent auction. Put up bidding sheets for each player (or group) before the doors open. (Some names will be preliminary/uncertain.) Bidders can write their bids on each sheet. When the entries are finalized, give them 10 more minutes for the silent auction. Then start the live auction. Each bidder gets no more than one bid per player. Or maybe two bids.

But I think the people who run tournaments aren't interested in speed. They seem to see nothing wrong with ending at 3 in the morning.
 
One way to shorten the auction time is to start with a silent auction. Put up bidding sheets for each player (or group) before the doors open. (Some names will be preliminary/uncertain.) Bidders can write their bids on each sheet. When the entries are finalized, give them 10 more minutes for the silent auction. Then start the live auction. Each bidder gets no more than one bid per player. Or maybe two bids.

But I think the people who run tournaments aren't interested in speed. They seem to see nothing wrong with ending at 3 in the morning.
We had a recent tournament in my area…they held the auction online….no hold-up for play…..and much more money.
 
problem with online in most states in the u.s. it is no legal to have a calcutta.

but a good idea where it is.

but speeding up all aspect of a tournament is paramount to its continued success. no one wants to wait hours for their next match especially at a place you may not like hanging out.

or having a calcutta take up lots of time. then it should be held before anyone has to show up as a player if he wants.

simple start on time, have all tables with a constant match going, and give a short time for players to show up. and slow players told to play fast or be disqualified or no longer invited to those tournaments.
 
A good auctioneer controls the pace of a calcutta and from what I have seen the last ten percent bid takes up the vast majority of time. I prefer "going once, going twiiice, BANG! The hammer comes down. I believe you can get ninety percent of the money in half the time. Don't really need to tell people how the player performed in preschool tournaments.

Something that was called a calcutta that I didn't understand, all entrants had to have the same amount bid. If you wanted to add more money on the favorite you had to cover all of the dogs too that nobody else wanted too. Bids went back to the last full round at the end of bidding. Seemed to work, they had been doing things like that for years. I would just like to understand it better because it might be useful.

Hu
 
There's a local tournament coming up and I'd like to attend. It's race to 7 9 ball on winner side, not sure on loser side. 8 tables. They are expecting around 64 players and the calcutta starts at 3PM, tournament at 4PM.

I don't think they realize the thing won't be over til probably 5AM at the earliest. I bet it goes on until 7AM.

It's on a Saturday so why in the heck don't they start calcutta at 8AM and the tournament at 9AM sharp? This gives the bar a chance to serve breakfast, lunch, and dinner, as well as maybe getting over by 2AM. I doubt I go. I'm not trying to be a wimp but I don't want to deal with no sleep. It's tearing me up because I do want to go and support the local hall but I know for a fact I'll play like dog crap after hours.
Just some back of the envelope math, 64 matches total, but once they're are fewer than 16 players left, the tables will not be fully utilized. So seven rounds as fast as we can get them on the tables and four rounds after that, eleven rounds total. At 1:15 a round, that's 14 hours. If the Calcutta doesn't run over, that's 6 am.

Everybody does that, not just pool, all events.They want the event to be bigger and better but they just make it bigger and worser. It takes so much more energy to move the traffic through that you have to shorten the sets, making the events worse.

Just do 4 groups of 8,, a decent length race, then let the others play tomorrow.
 
big tournaments is one thing but local small ones where the buy in is 100 or less should be run in two days or make it a one day 8 hour tournament that goes fast.

and unless its a handicapped tournament races should be real short so many have a chance and not just the top few players.
 
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