Slick Shaft Wax?

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I usually burnish my shafts and apply wax, very smooth, but I have a friend that his shafts are like the slickest and he won't tell me what he puts on the shaft. My thinking is something like Pledge, thought maybe somebody out here might have a clue?
 
I have used Craftsman Cue Wax from Birmingham, England for the past 7-8 years.
It's usually available thru ebay in quantities of 3 cans and i buy in bulk (15 cans at a time).
Unfortunately it hasn't been listed for awhile now and I am down to my last tin can.

As a back-up, I recently got a large jar of Renaissance Wax which I heard great things
about from others on AZ. I haven't tried it & likely won't until I run out of Craftsman Wax.
 
lawrence526 said:
I usually burnish my shafts and apply wax, very smooth, but I have a friend that his shafts are like the slickest and he won't tell me what he puts on the shaft. My thinking is something like Pledge, thought maybe somebody out here might have a clue?
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Might not be wax he is using, This stuff makes the slickest shaft I have ever seen, But I don't use it. Just thinking maybe this is what your friend is using,,
 

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Might not be wax he is using, This stuff makes the slickest shaft I have ever seen, But I don't use it. Just thinking maybe this is what your friend is using,,
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Q Glide by PCC Products Inc. and McDermott Ultra-Glide (same product) is the slickest product I have used on shafts. Apply a small drop with your fingertip, wiping it up and down the top 2/3's of A CLEAN shaft, then burnish with a paper towel until dry.
 
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Stop putting wax on your shafts. It just attracts dirt and gets sticky. Here are a few possibilities:

One, your friend keeps his hands clean and so his shafts stay nice and clean.

Two, your friend chalks properly, not with the bridge hand, which would get chalk on the shaft.

Three, your friend uses a sanding sealer or cue sealer, but does not keep sanding his shaft.

Four, your friend might have shafts that are older, more dense, and resist chalk and dirt better than yours do.

Many variables in keeping shafts clean and slick.

You're welcome, Justin.

All the best,
WW
 
lawrence526 said:
I usually burnish my shafts and apply wax, very smooth, but I have a friend that his shafts are like the slickest and he won't tell me what he puts on the shaft. My thinking is something like Pledge, thought maybe somebody out here might have a clue?
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Isn't this person your friend? Just ask him!!!!!!
I would have thought friends don't mind helping each other out.
Interesting friendship you and he have if he won't tell you this very simple thing.
Also don't forget that many shafts feel different just by the way they are.
For example, my LD shafts, all of whom I hate playing with, for some reason never ever feel as smooth as the solid maple ones.
Maybe it's all that glued layer stuff or maybe it's just that cheap 3rd and 4th grade wood they use. Don't know.
 
I recently started using Cue Silk now that I live near the ocean. I haven't looked back. Great product.
 
lawrence526 said:
I usually burnish my shafts and apply wax, very smooth, but I have a friend that his shafts are like the slickest and he won't tell me what he puts on the shaft. My thinking is something like Pledge, thought maybe somebody out here might have a clue?
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I have tried a lot of things. A good burishig set of micro grits Nick's Edge" is most important to prep for leather burnishing..

Cue silk is great esp. for non lam shafts. Q-glide is also quite similar. Q- slick is worthless.

THere is also debate on whether hard wax is better than a liquid wax.
I think the final agreement was that harder the wax the better. I tried beeswax on a pechauer pro + as they said that is what they suggest.

It takes some patience and muscle to get the hard wax heated through friction on leather but it finally will slide.. and ultimately slicks well and closes the pores. Will likely stretch out and ruin a leather pad burnisher for any other use... i.e. for cue silk etc.... Because the burnisher retains the wax for conflictive any use with another product i the future. IMHO

It is just that I believe that it collects a little bit and gunks up over time. My hands do not sweat but I am not a fan of wax as compared to the slick bottled stuff per above.

PS My NEW pechauer pro plus LD shaft shipped to me without any finish in my opinion and I could never get it as slick as my Jacoby edge shaft, No matter what I used.

Finally I used a little 2000 grit on it and burnished it.... that fixed everything and reduced the friction. It just needed a little help.
 
Hi Hawaiianeye,

I am sure you of all people would hae tried lesser expensive things first.....carnauba wax, beeswax, and both hard and soft waxes. Is this molinari that much noticeable difference????

I saw it in vegas and it looked like q glide, which is out of biz but available online. Same size bottle.

What makes it better than other's given your experience. ANd does it eventually get gunky??

No reviews on that page so No comfort level here yet.
 
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The guy who does my tips uses Butchers Bowling Alley wax and I love how my shafts come out. A super smooth and durable finish. It's been probably two years since I had my break cue done and it still feels like new. Playing cue is going on a 10months or so and also feels like new. Love the finish it gives.
 
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Hi Hawaiianeye,

I am sure you of all people would hae tried lesser expensive things first.....carnauba wax, beeswax, and both hard and soft waxes. Is this molinari that much noticeable difference????

I saw it in vegas and it looked like q glide, which is out of biz but available online. Same size bottle.

What makes it better than other's given your experience. ANd does it eventually get gunky??

No reviews on that page so No comfort level here yet.
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I currently use Renaissance wax, but I think Molinari is way "slicker". I've only used Molinari a couple of times and it was my friend's. I have yet to order any because it would have cost me more for shipping here to Hawaii than I would have paid for the wax.

I have used Cue Silk and the Molinari beats that, too.

It never gunked up on my cue the couple times I used it and I would buy some if I ran across a good deal on it.

I am a stickler for keeping my shafts clean and slick. I can't stand sticky shafts and I will use anything that works to keep it that way.
 
Some folks prefer the feel of bare wood (I know my second wife did; naw, just kidding), others like wax.
Chris Hightower sells some very good cue wax, as well as a cleaner. It's best when used with a lathe, but doesn't have to be.
Give him a call at: Cue Man Billiard Products. Tell him Tramp sent you. :smile:
 
My friend is older and won't tell anyone his secret, not sure why but I have pried without success and I think he enjoys knowing something we don't! All the comments that have come are appreciated....
 
As a player,the best stuff I've ever found is the Longoni Special Wax.

It may be hard to find,but Ozone had some last I looked.

On the repair side,a pure,hard beeswax is awful tough to beat if applied properly on a lathe.

The Longoni will be easier to apply by hand. Tommy D.
 
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The guy who does my tips uses Butchers Bowling Alley wax and I love how my shafts come out. A super smooth and durable finish. It's been probably two years since I had my break cue done and it still feels like new. Playing cue is going on a 10months or so and also feels like new. Love the finish it gives.
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That is the wax I use.

Wife hates the smell, but I dont care. :p

Ken
 
I agree with the sanding sealer, I use Tiger Sealer.

WildWing said:
Stop putting wax on your shafts. It just attracts dirt and gets sticky. Here are a few possibilities:

One, your friend keeps his hands clean and so his shafts stay nice and clean.

Two, your friend chalks properly, not with the bridge hand, which would get chalk on the shaft.

Three, your friend uses a sanding sealer or cue sealer, but does not keep sanding his shaft.

Four, your friend might have shafts that are older, more dense, and resist chalk and dirt better than yours do.

Many variables in keeping shafts clean and slick.

You're welcome, Justin.

All the best,
WW
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I agree with the sanding sealer, I use Tiger Sealer. And then burnish it with leather or those round Q Whiz, not the rough side (unless I put a couple coats on. I may use a smidgeon of wax, just to keep me honest and a nice shine. Agreed also that my solid rock Maple Schon Shafts stay slicker then the LD shafts, the glue and sub par wood used sounds reasonable.
 

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Can you provide more detail on the Shaft Freeze product? How do you apply it, how long does it last, does it make shaft slick or just keep it clean or both, etc.?
 
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