Slight wobble on my new cue, what would you do?

[WildWing]

I could have him send a pic but like I stated, he is in AZ, I am from WI. I could also get more details on how long owned it and when did it start warping

Look son, fun is fun, I get that, but it's time to bring this to a halt. Your story is not very credible on all this shaft warp and wobble, without some evidence. You haven't provided any. I think we know where this is going. You want some kind of refund, extra something, just because. Look, we've seen this before. I think this has gone on long enough, and you've not really provided anything but please feel sorry for me, with my bad shaft.

I think you need to quit this, get a good cue and shaft, and move on.

All the best,
WW

 

[tjlmbklr]

Look son, fun is fun, I get that, but it's time to bring this to a halt. Your story is not very credible on all this shaft warp and wobble, without some evidence. You haven't provided any. I think we know where this is going. You want some kind of refund, extra something, just because. Look, we've seen this before. I think this has gone on long enough, and you've not really provided anything but please feel sorry for me, with my bad shaft.

I think you need to quit this, get a good cue and shaft, and move on.

All the best,
WW

You have been bar none the harshest person in this thread, not sure why so angry but whatever.

With that said what proof do you want? I will be by a table tomorrow, can roll it for you and take pics and videos. What's that going to prove, that I am not lying about my shaft that after having for 6 days (it's now weeks later) has a slight wobble? I didn't roll it when I got, so my assumption is it was always there.

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[tjlmbklr]

Look son, fun is fun, I get that, but it's time to bring this to a halt. Your story is not very credible on all this shaft warp and wobble, without some evidence. You haven't provided any. I think we know where this is going. You want some kind of refund, extra something, just because. Look, we've seen this before. I think this has gone on long enough, and you've not really provided anything but please feel sorry for me, with my bad shaft.

I think you need to quit this, get a good cue and shaft, and move on.

All the best,
WW

And furthermore, "I think you need to quit this...."

if it matters I think I got all the information I needed a loooooong time ago. And that is, it is what it is and I'm stuck with it.

I'm only replying to all the people that were nice enough to reply to me. So don't take into account that there's five pages of information as me being a person that's just having a B!tch-o-thon.

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[Kickin' Chicken]

What was the problem with the Schon? When was it? When did you visit him? Several years, I guess? You sure? Did you see the Schon shaft? Did you test it? How do you know it wasn't good, since you brought this up?

What does this have to do with your cue and shaft?

Have you had just about enough of this yet? Want to take any more questions?

Want to give a bit more specifics? Can we see some pictures of the shaft you have a problem with, as well as your friend's Schon? You obviously have a smartphone, so this shouldn't be much of a problem...

Maybe I'm crazy but I have a different take on the op and his situation and don't believe he deserves a dressing down.

I see a guy who may have made an error in judgement in trying to piece together what he hoped would be a great cue for himself, not realizing he was potentially setting himself up for a disappointment by doing it this way. His asking for opinions on how best to proceed in this rather unusual scenario seems very reasonable to me.

As Jay Helfert said, there is a big problem with Meucci service - it's more of a disservice actually. Cues and shafts sent there often end up sitting for months and even years with bs excuses when calling to check on them. So, if you decide to send your shaft in, know that it may become a major pain in the ass. I have some first hand bad experience with their black-hole service.

If you're happy with how this setup plays and don't want to risk the aggravation sending it back to Meucci, maybe keep it, keep your fingers crossed and perhaps with video evidence try to get a partial refund from Budget and/or Meucci. Who knows?

Sounds like Schmelke's side of it was okay though I do wonder why they didn't alert you to the fact that the shaft was warped. Was their position that all was straight when it left their shop?

Hope you get something resembling a good outcome.

best,
brian kc

 

[Kickin' Chicken]

Look son, fun is fun, I get that, but it's time to bring this to a halt. Your story is not very credible on all this shaft warp and wobble, without some evidence. You haven't provided any. I think we know where this is going. You want some kind of refund, extra something, just because. Look, we've seen this before. I think this has gone on long enough, and you've not really provided anything but please feel sorry for me, with my bad shaft.

I think you need to quit this, get a good cue and shaft, and move on.

All the best,
WW

wow, it got worse when I was typing my last post.

I believe the op when he says that his new shaft has a wobble and I don't feel he has to provide video proof of it.

why so harsh?

the guy was disappointed and looking for opinions/options.

 

[tjlmbklr]

wow, it got worse when I was typing my last post.

I believe the op when he says that his new shaft has a wobble and I don't feel he has to provide video proof of it.

why so harsh?

the guy was disappointed and looking for opinions/options.

Thank you. One can only assume I'm being trolled by him. I never expected it on a forum I have been a members of for almost 10 years.

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[WildWing]

Maybe I'm crazy but I have a different take on the op and his situation and don't believe he deserves a dressing down.

Nobody gave him a dressing down, just the facts. He got the best advice, over and over, but is desperate for something free, replacement, whatever you want to call it. First, it's a Meucci shaft, then as evidence, it is a Schon shaft that wasn't quite right. No evidence.

Get the cue of your choice, the shaft of your choice, and stop complaining on this forum, if you don't think it's perfect.

This forum is not going to give you extra money to make your cue choice right. Get it? Make it right on your own.

All the best,
WW

 

[Kickin' Chicken]

Thank you. One can only assume I'm being trolled by him. I never expected it on a forum I have been a members of for almost 10 years.

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not that it should matter but you've been a member here for over 13 years.

and everything I read from you in this thread seemed polite and respectful.

GL with this situation.

Maybe the shaft won't get worse and it'll play well for you for quite a while. I still would try for some recompense.

best,
brian kc

 

[tjlmbklr]

not that it should matter but you've been a member here for over 13 years.

and everything I read from you in this thread seemed polite and respectful.

GL with this situation.

Maybe the shaft won't get worse and it'll play well for you for quite a while. I still would try for some recompense.

best,
brian kc

Thanks, I knew it was a long time.

I think I have learned I will have to just accept my wobble and live with it. I just hope it doesn't get worse.

I haven't rolled it since that first time and that was like 3-4 weeks ago. I have league tomorrow and I will roll it again to see if it's gotten any worse or with any luck any better.

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[JoeyInCali]

I've never read so much drama over a wobbly shaft.

 

[Kickin' Chicken]

agreed, enough drama for a wobbly shaft.

best,
brian kc

 

[tjlmbklr]

Nobody gave him a dressing down, just the facts. He got the best advice, over and over, but is desperate for something free, replacement, whatever you want to call it. First, it's a Meucci shaft, then as evidence, it is a Schon shaft that wasn't quite right. No evidence.

Get the cue of your choice, the shaft of your choice, and stop complaining on this forum, if you don't think it's perfect.

This forum is not going to give you extra money to make your cue choice right. Get it? Make it right on your own.

All the best,
WW

You are way off, you are so far off on your assessment of what you think I was asking for that it's almost comical.

I encourage you to go back and read what I wrote, I seriously encourage you to thoroughly read everything I wrote and then come back and reassess what you just said. You're being completely harsh and unfair for absolutely no reason whatsoever. I never once asked for anything free, I came here asking for advice then over the course of 2 days I noticed many people have been replying and me being the nice guy that I am decided to reply back to all of them most of them thanking them for their good advice and most of them I took the advice for what it was worth and that is I already know that there's nothing I can do with the shaft. So have a good night and I will not be replying to anything else you say anymore.

Have a nice judgemental life!

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[pinkspider]

Sound advice, thanks.

In the future I may go with a Jacoby Hybrid since last I checked Jacoby had 31" options.

But I am tapped out so no new toys for a while.

i know this is a little off topic already but perhaps consider mid- or rear extensions in future? i know it may not be your first choice but i find it less of a hassle. You mentioned that your cue is 3 inches longer than the standard length; i understand that Jacoby also has a 4-inch mid extension; that could be an option in future...

custom gear is well and good but if u need to sell to get another if things don't work out people may not want your customisations so its harder to offload as well. Not to mention that it's harder to get replacement stuff off the shelf.

 

[Kim Bye]

It`s not like wasn`t warned. I think you had two threads about shafts and you got alot of recommandations and also a few warnings about Meucci. A 31" pice of maple, especially with that long Meucci taper, is pushing it.
Show us a picture of the wobble, so we can give a fair judgement.
Next time stick to a 30" shaft and choose something in th the 12.7mm tip diameter range and with a more normal pro taper.

 

[Meucciplayer]

Couple of things I want to add. I own 2 Meucci cues and 3 Meucci shafts currently. My older cue is a 29" butt with a 29" Black Dot. This one developed (or had from the start?) a very slight wobble (estimate would be 1/8", probably less). Shaft is about 8 years old and it never got worse. Actually it got a lot better to basically non-existant now since I have been using one of those rubber wall hanger thingies.

Then I have a new cue, less than 1 year old now. 30". 2 shafts, a 30" "The Pro" and a 30" "Ultimate Weapon". Both of them straight as can be. Ordered them thru Budget Cues and there was a little goof the first time they tried. They sent a 29" butt instead of my custom ordered 30" butt. It was no problem at all and within about 4-6 weeks I had a 30" replacement sent. I am a happy customer now. So, not everything Meucci has to go wrong.

If I were you, I would not be too worried about that slight wobble. My Black Dot played the same with the slight wobble as it does now without it. Yes, it bugged me a little which also sped up my decision to buy the new cue and shafts a bit. But this is a purely psychological thing and I would have bought the new cue anyway, maybe a little later.

Oh - a last piece of advice. I would never buy a Schmelke with a Meucci shaft fitted afterwards - brand new. I might buy a Schmelke (or any other) butt with the right joint and hope my Meucci shafts fit. But buying a new shaft from one company and have another work on the combination is asking for more trouble than it's worth. Cheaper Meucci butts aren't that much more expensive and if you would have bought from one company only they could not pass the blame from one to the other. The only other option would have been to order everything through Schmelke. Then it would have been entirely their problem.

BTW, during the fixing of the 29-30" problem I also had to communicate with Meucci themselves but that was not a problem.

 

[Cary]

No cue maker EVER made a wooden shaft that might not warp over time. No one. Ever.

Note: I've had my Meucci since 1986. The first year it developed a very slight roll in the midsection of the shaft. The ferule & tip never wobbled at all. I bought a second shaft from Bludworth and put the original in the case. After a few months I got it out and it rolled perfectly. Shortly after that, the wobble was back. Over the years I've learned it goes back & forth, never more than the first time and never enough to effect the way it plays. By the way, I've always used it to break with at 8/9/10 ball and still carry it today as a back up player/break stick.

Your results may vary.

 

[tjlmbklr]

agreed, enough drama for a wobbly shaft.

best,
brian kc

With all due respect (and I just edited the initial post from me on the front page for all to see), it was one man who started this drama. I got my answer a long time ago. My replies keeping bumping me to the top and I keep getting more replies and then I answer those and then I am bumped again. It's a viscous cycle.

 

[tjlmbklr]

i know this is a little off topic already but perhaps consider mid- or rear extensions in future? i know it may not be your first choice but i find it less of a hassle. You mentioned that your cue is 3 inches longer than the standard length; i understand that Jacoby also has a 4-inch mid extension; that could be an option in future...

custom gear is well and good but if u need to sell to get another if things don't work out people may not want your customisations so its harder to offload as well. Not to mention that it's harder to get replacement stuff off the shelf.

Thanks for the advise, I did have a mid-cue extension made by AZ member 'newsheriffintwn'. I had it on my old McDermott and this is how I realized I liked 61". But 2 issues, one and this is no fault of newsheriffintwn, but when I had it inserted it caused a slight wobble, which we all, know now I obviously have issues with. And 2, I like a 2 piece look, the center extension takes away from the cosmetics of the cue, IMHO of course.

As for rear extensions, I have considered this too but I like a forward balanced cue and I fear this would add too much weight to the rear. But hey, it's good enough for SVB, right?

 

[tjlmbklr]

It`s not like wasn`t warned. I think you had two threads about shafts and you got alot of recommandations and also a few warnings about Meucci. A 31" pice of maple, especially with that long Meucci taper, is pushing it.
Show us a picture of the wobble, so we can give a fair judgement.
Next time stick to a 30" shaft and choose something in th the 12.7mm tip diameter range and with a more normal pro taper.

Although there were a fair share of Meucci haters out there, I was never warned of this issue. As a matter of fact, weeks of research is what lead me to buy this shaft. However, the 31" length was never considered by me as a potential for slight warping.

 

[tjlmbklr]

Couple of things I want to add. I own 2 Meucci cues and 3 Meucci shafts currently. My older cue is a 29" butt with a 29" Black Dot. This one developed (or had from the start?) a very slight wobble (estimate would be 1/8", probably less). Shaft is about 8 years old and it never got worse. Actually it got a lot better to basically non-existant now since I have been using one of those rubber wall hanger thingies.

Then I have a new cue, less than 1 year old now. 30". 2 shafts, a 30" "The Pro" and a 30" "Ultimate Weapon". Both of them straight as can be. Ordered them thru Budget Cues and there was a little goof the first time they tried. They sent a 29" butt instead of my custom ordered 30" butt. It was no problem at all and within about 4-6 weeks I had a 30" replacement sent. I am a happy customer now. So, not everything Meucci has to go wrong.

If I were you, I would not be too worried about that slight wobble. My Black Dot played the same with the slight wobble as it does now without it. Yes, it bugged me a little which also sped up my decision to buy the new cue and shafts a bit. But this is a purely psychological thing and I would have bought the new cue anyway, maybe a little later.

Oh - a last piece of advice. I would never buy a Schmelke with a Meucci shaft fitted afterwards - brand new. I might buy a Schmelke (or any other) butt with the right joint and hope my Meucci shafts fit. But buying a new shaft from one company and have another work on the combination is asking for more trouble than it's worth. Cheaper Meucci butts aren't that much more expensive and if you would have bought from one company only they could not pass the blame from one to the other. The only other option would have been to order everything through Schmelke. Then it would have been entirely their problem.

BTW, during the fixing of the 29-30" problem I also had to communicate with Meucci themselves but that was not a problem.

Sound advice, thanks. Again, it's a fear it will get worse over time. Maybe I need to get one of those hanger things for the shaft a well.

I guess I should have mentioned, the Meucci Pro shaft I ordered from Budget was a blank. So Schmelke was able to customize it to their custom built butt. The cue was made with all new parts.