Slip stroke with Wrapless cue?

regardless of when or even if the cue is slipping....

Regardless of what it feels like or looks like, the slip stroke was developed for one reason, to allow you to let the cue do the work.

This is a difficult concept to follow, but most of the better players that I know understand it.

Allowing the weight of the cue to do the work and not forcing the cue stick through the CB will give most people the best results.

Slipping before, slipping after, on the back stroke, as you contact the ball, those are ways for a person to have something to focus on to know that they are allowing the weight of the cue to do the work.

There's no wrong way to eat a reese's so long as you taste it and it goes in your belly.

Figure out what technique best allows YOU to allow the weight of the cue to do the work and you will be successful.

And it's possible to do with any cue.

In my experience, it's easier to allow the weight of the cue to do the work on leather wrapped cues and wrapless. because you can have a loose enough grip without the cue getting out of your control.

IMO, ideally, you wouldn't want the cue to slip at all, so long as you let the weight of the cue do the work, but again, find what works best for you.

Jaden
 
Jaden said:
Regardless of what it feels like or looks like, the slip stroke was developed for one reason, to allow you to let the cue do the work.

This is a difficult concept to follow, but most of the better players that I know understand it.

Allowing the weight of the cue to do the work and not forcing the cue stick through the CB will give most people the best results.

Slipping before, slipping after, on the back stroke, as you contact the ball, those are ways for a person to have something to focus on to know that they are allowing the weight of the cue to do the work.

There's no wrong way to eat a reese's so long as you taste it and it goes in your belly.

Figure out what technique best allows YOU to allow the weight of the cue to do the work and you will be successful.

And it's possible to do with any cue.

In my experience, it's easier to allow the weight of the cue to do the work on leather wrapped cues and wrapless. because you can have a loose enough grip without the cue getting out of your control.

IMO, ideally, you wouldn't want the cue to slip at all, so long as you let the weight of the cue do the work, but again, find what works best for you.

Jaden
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I think they just had the grip hand forward ( beyond 90 degrees from the floor ) so they could have a longer practice stroke.
Letting the cue go ( stroke slip ) was the way they developed during the slow cloth days. Same with Efren. And if you saw the first generation of Flipino invaders, they had rollercoaster stroke and lots of wrist action.
Playing on outdoors or no ac or no walls pool hall down in the islands require a lot of cueball manipulation.
 
MY .02 Cents

IMHO A Slip Stroke becomes more accurate when the wrapped Cue has been played with long enough so you can feel when your hand is in the right position after the Slip. In other words the Linen wrap might be a little lose at that place. A rubber band can be used for the same propose on either wrapped or unwrapped cues.

I use a SEMI Slip Stroke or False Slip Stroke. I mean I line up my shot, shocking up and then slide my hand back and take another line up stroke before pulling the trigger. The propose is to have good follow through by moving my hand back before shooting so the Cue goes farther forward. I also stop stroking for a second or so just before making the final shot stroke.

Fundamentals are key to a consistent game. IMHO a full Slip Stroke is not for beginning players. Sometimes beginning players are more worried about looking fancy and making fancy shots than actually playing the game. As a friend of mine says "A Duck gets a Duck". Moving the cue ball as little as needed is sometimes a better way to run a table.
 
JoeyInCali said:
... He does have a little slipstroke.
He does start a little forward and slides to the rear.
He definitely lets it go. ...
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So Efren has both a slip stroke and a stroke slip. He's a slip-stroke-slipper. The guy just can't hold the cue!
 
Jaden said:
Regardless of what it feels like or looks like, the slip stroke was developed for one reason, to allow you to let the cue do the work.

This is a difficult concept to follow, but most of the better players that I know understand it.

Allowing the weight of the cue to do the work and not forcing the cue stick through the CB will give most people the best results.

Slipping before, slipping after, on the back stroke, as you contact the ball, those are ways for a person to have something to focus on to know that they are allowing the weight of the cue to do the work.

There's no wrong way to eat a reese's so long as you taste it and it goes in your belly.

Figure out what technique best allows YOU to allow the weight of the cue to do the work and you will be successful.

And it's possible to do with any cue.

In my experience, it's easier to allow the weight of the cue to do the work on leather wrapped cues and wrapless. because you can have a loose enough grip without the cue getting out of your control.

IMO, ideally, you wouldn't want the cue to slip at all, so long as you let the weight of the cue do the work, but again, find what works best for you.

Jaden
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This comment is totally right IMO. You never want to lose control of the cue, especially for the sake of controlling the cue ball or pocketing balls. I understand where slipping is sought after, but loose grip would be a much better thing to seek. Minor slippage is ok, but you want to maintain the same grip throughout the stroke.

I use the slip to get a feel for my cue. I also spin the cue in my hands when playing with certain grips. I personally don't like feeling the seam on a leather wrap. When I have a feel for it in the right spot, I lock down on it and fire away.
 
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