Smoking??????

[Fatboy]

Wow, you got cancer from second hand smoke? Is that from pool halls?
That's terrible. Cigarettes are a horrible habit.
They kill 400,000 people every year. It's really unbelievable that the government lets cigarettes be legal and puts people in a cage for marijuana, a plant that's killed ZERO people in over 10,000 years of use.

Yup the Govt here in America loves to put people in cages(not the UFC cage ) for anything and everything. there are 2,100,000 people in jail, prison etc in America "the land of the free" which means we have more prisioners than any other country in the world, and were far from being the most populated nation.

Weed should be legal and I have never smoked it and wont. But its harmless, save the gate way argument for someone else, and they lock you up for it. Great plan. Go to the Netherlands and see that with it legal it dosent hurt anyone,

Like prostitution its a victemless crime, put a video camera in the room and now its "making a porn" and there is nothing illegal about that(in most states), and the girls AWALYS get paid, usually the men do but nothing compaired to the girls. So are they prostitutes or porn stars, and whats the difference? Man its all backwards here on some issues.

 

[ShootingArts]

whacky weed

This post isn't directed at any one person but all of the people claiming that pot is harmless. Pot is anything but harmless as I know all to well. I lost a brother thanks to pot. I could make a strong case that I lost my best friend thanks to pot. Another time two men on my job were gassed with chlorine that they watched coming our way, grooving on the pretty green cloud while burning a doobie at 6:15 in the morning. I had my head down working and I thought they were BS'ing. When I looked up the dense cloud was within feet. I shouted to the 'heads that it was chlorine and lit out down the pipe rack crosswind. Those two stoned morons wrestled over who was going down a caged ladder first and both were in the hospital for a few days. I also know of quite a few automobile wrecks caused by use of pot, according to the drivers. Add a friend killed by a high school kid who swerved off the road while smoking pot. No proof that pot kills???

Ignoring the psychological changes from heavy pot use, the physical evidence is damning. Legalize pot and it will kill more people than tobacco. Far from legalizing pot, we should be outlawing tobacco. Far too many deaths and far too much of a drain on society. We pay billions a year for the care of people that can't afford anything but more cigarettes to smoke as they lay there dying. We pay billions more in lost time and production.

Hu


(included text from a quick search)
Marijuana and Cancer

Consider these facts before you decide to smoke pot.

There are more cancer-causing agents in marijuana than in any other substance presently known to man. Crude marijuana contains more carcinogens (one hundred fifty more) and in greater concentration than tobacco.

One joint deposits four times as much cancer-causing tars in the smoker's airways as does tobacco smoke. Smoking three to five joints a week is equal in harmful effects to smoking 16 cigarettes daily. Smoking one joint a day is equal to a pack of cigarettes daily. Three joints smoked per week for three to six months carries the same probability of developing lung cancer as smoking a pack of cigarettes daily for 20 to 30 years.

Because the pot smoker tends to breathe in the smoke more deeply and hold it longer than the tobacco user, greater harm is done to the lungs. Five times as much carbon monoxide (associated with coronary diseases) is inhaled in marijuana smoke as in tobacco smoke.

Prolonged exposure to marijuana smoke can cause emphysema-like symptoms, cancer of the lungs, mouth, and tongue, and leukemia in children born from marijuana-smoking mothers.

Cases of cancer reported in users in their 20's and 30's include cancer of the mouth, jaw, tongue, larynx, head, neck, and lungs. Normally these cancers would occur between the ages of 55 and 60.

The American Cancer Society, the Food and Drug Administration, and the American Medical Association have all stated that marijuana has not been shown to be safe or effective as a medicine. Smoked marijuana has not been shown to be superior to other available therapies for the treatment of nausea and vomiting associated with cancer chemotherapy.

Still think marijuana is a harmless drug?
(end included text)

 

[DeadPoked]

Do I still think marijuana is a harmless drug? Why yes, in fact I do. If used responsibly.

If you don't mind, could you please explain how pot led to your brother's death? And also explain how you link the death of your friend to pot, as well? I understand that they're both sensitive subjects, but by bringing them up in the context of your argument, I think it would help to know a little more.

No one here is advocating the use of pot while on the job. Especially in the type of job you mentioned. It should be treated just the same as alcohol as it relates to its use while working. Although, you can check your record collection and listen to the positive affects that it had on 95% of your albums.

Studies have determined that alcohol encourages risky driving, while marijuana encourages greater caution.

Crowthorne, Berkshire, United Kingdom: Marijuana appears to have less adverse impact on driving ability than does alcohol, according to findings from a recent study by the U.K.'s Transport Research Laboratory (TRL). The results replicate earlier findings recorded in the U.S., Australia and elsewhere indicating that marijuana intoxication plays a relatively insignificant role in vehicular accidents.

Source: http://www.fcda.org/driving.htm
http://mojo.calyx.net/~olsen/HEMP/IHA/iha01206.html

I won't go into the latter half of your post due to you not having supplied any sources. But from the research that I've done I believe it to be filled with nothing but misnomers.

 

[ShootingArts]

judgment and reaction times

Define responsibly. Your definition will be miles apart from someone else's. I happen to believe that any use of an illegal substance is irresponsible. Add a friend that lost a hundred thousand plus a year job for testing to have any level of THC in his blood to my list too. He wasn't using on the job or before work, it should have been fine never mind that he was a control room operator at a nuclear power plant. He tested "dirty" twice for traces of THC in several years time. Your opinion, should he have been fired or not? To assist in your decision, there was only a detectable amount of THC. There was never any claim that he was impaired in any way on the job.

What is the acceptable guideline for pot use for a nuclear power plant operator, airline pilot, eighteen wheeler driver, and others whose jobs impact the safety of us all? At what level can a police officer use pot and be trusted to use sound judgment during high speed driving which is part of his job and when he has to make an instant decision rather to use a gun or not? What is the acceptable level of THC in the surgeon operating on your child? What is the effect on all of these people of heavy usage when they have several days to recover and get their THC levels down to what will have to be considered an acceptable level? If marijuana is legalized that means legal for everyone and we can no more penalize someone for having some trace level in their system than we can penalize them for having any alcohol in their system.

I use morphine, responsibly. I wouldn't claim it to be harmless or pretend it wouldn't be abused if it was readily available. In fact both morphine and pot were once readily available. They were both abused and that is why they aren't readily available everywhere now.

As for how the people got killed, the wrecks, etc, you are right I'm not going to discuss it in depth. In all cases it boiled down to impaired judgment, impaired reaction time, or both.

Hu

Do I still think marijuana is a harmless drug? Why yes, in fact I do. If used responsibly.

If you don't mind, could you please explain how pot led to your brother's death? And also explain how you link the death of your friend to pot, as well? I understand that they're both sensitive subjects, but by bringing them up in the context of your argument, I think it would help to know a little more.

No one here is advocating the use of pot while on the job. Especially in the type of job you mentioned. It should be treated just the same as alcohol as it relates to its use while working. Although, you can check your record collection and listen to the positive affects that it had on 95% of your albums.

Studies have determined that alcohol encourages risky driving, while marijuana encourages greater caution.

Crowthorne, Berkshire, United Kingdom: Marijuana appears to have less adverse impact on driving ability than does alcohol, according to findings from a recent study by the U.K.'s Transport Research Laboratory (TRL). The results replicate earlier findings recorded in the U.S., Australia and elsewhere indicating that marijuana intoxication plays a relatively insignificant role in vehicular accidents.

Source: http://www.fcda.org/driving.htm
http://mojo.calyx.net/~olsen/HEMP/IHA/iha01206.html

I won't go into the latter half of your post due to you not having supplied any sources. But from the research that I've done I believe it to be filled with nothing but misnomers.

 

[DeadPoked]

Define responsibly. Your definition will be miles apart from someone else's. I happen to believe that any use of an illegal substance is irresponsible. Add a friend that lost a hundred thousand plus a year job for testing to have any level of THC in his blood to my list too. He wasn't using on the job or before work, it should have been fine never mind that he was a control room operator at a nuclear power plant. He tested "dirty" twice for traces of THC in several years time. Your opinion, should he have been fired or not? To assist in your decision, there was only a detectable amount of THC. There was never any claim that he was impaired in any way on the job.

What is the acceptable guideline for pot use for a nuclear power plant operator, airline pilot, eighteen wheeler driver, and others whose jobs impact the safety of us all? At what level can a police officer use pot and be trusted to use sound judgment during high speed driving which is part of his job and when he has to make an instant decision rather to use a gun or not? What is the acceptable level of THC in the surgeon operating on your child? What is the effect on all of these people of heavy usage when they have several days to recover and get their THC levels down to what will have to be considered an acceptable level? If marijuana is legalized that means legal for everyone and we can no more penalize someone for having some trace level in their system than we can penalize them for having any alcohol in their system.

I use morphine, responsibly. I wouldn't claim it to be harmless or pretend it wouldn't be abused if it was readily available. In fact both morphine and pot were once readily available. They were both abused and that is why they aren't readily available everywhere now.

As for how the people got killed, the wrecks, etc, you are right I'm not going to discuss it in depth. In all cases it boiled down to impaired judgment, impaired reaction time, or both.

Hu

THC stays in your system LONG after the affects of the drug have worn off. So just because you smoked last week doesn't mean an officer can't draw his gun quickly enough. That's a ridiculous argument.

And you say that the reason marijuana is illegal is because it was abused??? Wrong.

The reason marijuana is illegal is because Harry J. Anslinger was head of the Bureau of Narcotics and his goal was to make marijuana illegal because opiates and cocaine were not enough to help build up his new agency. He latched on to racism of the times to help build the cause of making marijuana illegal. Here are some of his infamous quotes...

"There are 100,000 total marijuana smokers in the US, and most are Negroes, Hispanics, Filipinos, and entertainers. Their Satanic music, jazz, and swing, result from marijuana use. This marijuana causes white women to seek sexual relations with Negroes, entertainers, and any others."

"...the primary reason to outlaw marijuana is its effect on the degenerate races."

"Marijuana is an addictive drug which produces in its users insanity, criminality, and death."

"Reefer makes darkies think they're as good as white men."

"Marihuana leads to pacifism and communist brainwashing"

"You smoke a joint and you're likely to kill your brother."

"Marijuana is the most violence-causing drug in the history of mankind."

Is this the type of person you'd want to determine what is right and what is wrong for our country? Not I.

Anslinger also had some help from William Randolph Hearst who was the owner of a huge chain of newspapers. He invested heavily in the timber industry to support his newspaper and he did not want to see the development of hemp paper in competition with timber.

Here are some quotes from Hearst...

"Marihuana makes fiends of boys in thirty days -- Hashish goads users to bloodlust."

"By the tons it is coming into this country -- the deadly, dreadful poison that racks and tears not only the body, but the very heart and soul of every human being who once becomes a slave to it in any of its cruel and devastating forms.... Marihuana is a short cut to the insane asylum. Smoke marihuana cigarettes for a month and what was once your brain will be nothing but a storehouse of horrid specters. Hasheesh makes a murderer who kills for the love of killing out of the mildest mannered man who ever laughed at the idea that any habit could ever get him...."

From his newspapers at the time...

"Users of marijuana become STIMULATED as they inhale the drug and are LIKELY TO DO ANYTHING. Most crimes of violence in this section, especially in country districts are laid to users of that drug."

"Was it marijuana, the new Mexican drug, that nerved the murderous arm of Clara Phillips when she hammered out her victim's life in Los Angeles?... THREE-FOURTHS OF THE CRIMES of violence in this country today are committed by DOPE SLAVES -- that is a matter of cold record."

Hearst & Anslinger were also supported my many major companies that wanted Hemp removed from competition.



Hopefully some of this information will open your eyes to the obsurdity of why marijuana was made illegal back in those days.

 

[ScottW]

This post isn't directed at any one person but all of the people claiming that pot is harmless. Pot is anything but harmless as I know all to well. I lost a brother thanks to pot. I could make a strong case that I lost my best friend thanks to pot. Another time two men on my job were gassed with chlorine that they watched coming our way, grooving on the pretty green cloud while burning a doobie at 6:15 in the morning. I had my head down working and I thought they were BS'ing. When I looked up the dense cloud was within feet. I shouted to the 'heads that it was chlorine and lit out down the pipe rack crosswind. Those two stoned morons wrestled over who was going down a caged ladder first and both were in the hospital for a few days. I also know of quite a few automobile wrecks caused by use of pot, according to the drivers. Add a friend killed by a high school kid who swerved off the road while smoking pot. No proof that pot kills???

Moronic as some people may be (not you, SA; I'm talking about the people in the examples above), pot does not kill. Pot may be a FACTOR in someone's death - i.e. their judgment was impared while under the influence, that sort of thing.

Smoking is a whole different beast - the physical ACT of smoking is harmful. It's harmful to the person smoking, and to a lesser degree, harmful to the people in that person's immediate vicinity.

 

[ShootingArts]

read the included text

Scott,

Read the included text in my first post. The physical act of smoking pot is far more harmful than smoking tobacco. However when using a mind altering substance we can't disregard that effect either.

By the way, among the people whom you called moronic was my brother with a verified genius IQ. It didn't stop him from making an error in judgment that cost his life with THC in his system(he wasn't stoned at the time) when he had the intelligence, knowledge, and training to know better. He was doing something to help a friend that he also did as a fulltime occupation.

Hu

Moronic as some people may be (not you, SA; I'm talking about the people in the examples above), pot does not kill. Pot may be a FACTOR in someone's death - i.e. their judgment was impared while under the influence, that sort of thing.

Smoking is a whole different beast - the physical ACT of smoking is harmful. It's harmful to the person smoking, and to a lesser degree, harmful to the people in that person's immediate vicinity.

 

[CocoboloCowboy]

A cigarette smoker, pipe smoker, or cigar smoker will only quit whenthey want to quit. Arizona has made it a no no to smoke in public places, like bars, resturants, etc.

 

[DeadPoked]

Scott,

Read the included text in my first post. The physical act of smoking pot is far more harmful than smoking tobacco. However when using a mind altering substance we can't disregard that effect either.

By the way, among the people whom you called moronic was my brother with a verified genius IQ. It didn't stop him from making an error in judgment that cost his life with THC in his system(he wasn't stoned at the time) when he had the intelligence, knowledge, and training to know better. He was doing something to help a friend that he also did as a fulltime occupation.

Hu

You blame marijuana for your brothers death because he had THC in his system but wasn't even stoned at the time? You think THC in your system days or weeks after smoking impares your coordination? If you do, I may as well be arguing with a wall.

 

[ShootingArts]

so tell me . . .

THC stays in your system LONG after the affects of the drug have worn off. So just because you smoked last week doesn't mean an officer can't draw his gun quickly enough. That's a ridiculous argument.

Actually you have things backwards. You tell me that THC stays in your system long after the effects of the drug have worn off. So tell me, when you legalize pot how are you going to determine who is fit to do what? Did that officer get the THC in his system last week or on his way to work this morning? Just like drinkers, he "knows" it doesn't affect his ability to do his job. That surgeon, did he smoke days ago or did he smoke a joint this morning on his way in to smooth out? Far from solving anything you have just pointed out one more problem.

It is a whole lot easier to keep things black or white rather than umpteen shades of gray. The plant operator wasn't high, but how do you establish that he wasn't? How would you establish he was? If he or anyone else makes a serious mistake in a nuclear plant they can be up for both civil and criminal charges. So with pot legal what is the guideline?

Hu

 

[DeadPoked]

Actually you have things backwards. You tell me that THC stays in your system long after the effects of the drug have worn off. So tell me, when you legalize pot how are you going to determine who is fit to do what? Did that officer get the THC in his system last week or on his way to work this morning? Just like drinkers, he "knows" it doesn't affect his ability to do his job. That surgeon, did he smoke days ago or did he smoke a joint this morning on his way in to smooth out? Far from solving anything you have just pointed out one more problem.

It is a whole lot easier to keep things black or white rather than umpteen shades of gray. The plant operator wasn't high, but how do you establish that he wasn't? How would you establish he was? If he or anyone else makes a serious mistake in a nuclear plant they can be up for both civil and criminal charges. So with pot legal what is the guideline?

Hu

I've never heard of a method that could tell if a person were high at that exact moment. How often do people out on job sites get a breathalyzer though? That is rarely seen. So I don't think not being able to test for it for job purposes is a valid reason for it to be illegal. Supervisors should be on the lookout for their employees that do not look sober and take action to resolve that issue. And as far as not being able to test a driver... I don't think it affects a persons driving much. I've read studies where the person drove better while they were high. If anything they drive more cautiously, as opposed to aggresively like drunk people.

 

[fish on]

100% of smokers WILL DIE

100% of nonsmokers WILL DIE

many will die of cancer .... most will die from something else.

I would love to see a study of two groups

One who lives a clean perfect life.... except eats a big mac every day.

compared with a large group of us who lead reasonably healthy lives except we smoke.

I think the results would surprise alot of people.

FYI
Everybody dies of heart failure!

 

[trustyrusty]

I've never heard of a method that could tell if a person were high at that exact moment. How often do people out on job sites get a breathalyzer though? That is rarely seen. So I don't think not being able to test for it for job purposes is a valid reason for it to be illegal. Supervisors should be on the lookout for their employees that do not look sober and take action to resolve that issue. And as far as not being able to test a driver... I don't think it affects a persons driving much. I've read studies where the person drove better while they were high. If anything they drive more cautiously, as opposed to aggresively like drunk people.

cautiously??? HA, I remember one time when I was 17 or so driving around in a buddies car, passing around hitters, and I look out the window (I was in the passengers seat) and see a guy running next to the car. I tell the driver, "look at this guy!!!" He goes, "NO WAY!"....he had to be flying (Carl Lewis or something). Maybe 20 seconds later or so we realize it was a jogger, and the driver was going THAT slow. YEAH!!! That drug should be legal.....wow.

 

[DeadPoked]

cautiously??? HA, I remember one time when I was 17 or so driving around in a buddies car, passing around hitters, and I look out the window (I was in the passengers seat) and see a guy running next to the car. I tell the driver, "look at this guy!!!" He goes, "NO WAY!"....he had to be flying (Carl Lewis or something). Maybe 20 seconds later or so we realize it was a jogger, and the driver was going THAT slow. YEAH!!! That drug should be legal.....wow.

We now have news from our Asian Reporter Rusty Takanawa saying that Marijuana should in fact be legal. Thank you, Rusty, for setting your people back a thousand years...

 

[ShootingArts]

I know that regular pot use impairs judgment

You blame marijuana for your brothers death because he had THC in his system but wasn't even stoned at the time? You think THC in your system days or weeks after smoking impares your coordination? If you do, I may as well be arguing with a wall.

I know that regular substantial pot use impairs judgment. Not just when you have a major buzz on either. I never said there was an issue with his reflexes. I did say that one or both of these things were an issue in every death or wreck I mentioned. Speaking of arguing with a wall, you not being able to accurately quote what you are debating against makes things pretty rough too. I never said anything about coordination. However . . . .

People who use are much like every diabetic I have ever known. They have always been able to convince themselves that what they really wanted to eat or drink did them no harm. Take a hard look at the amount of carcinogens in pot. Do you really think it is physically harmless to pack into your lungs?

Now take a hard look at the behavioral changes in heavy users. With THC staying in the system constantly, doesn't it seem very likely that there are more subtle and gradual changes in people who use moderate amounts?

People who want to use pot will. However ignoring all evidence that it is physically harmful and that people are impaired while under the influence is worse than short-sighted.

Hu

(a little research, included text)
Driving after smoking even a small amount of marijuana almost doubles the risk of a fatal highway accident, according to an extensive study of 10,748 drivers involved in fatal crashes between 2001 and 2003.
A study by the French National Institute for Transport and Safety Research published in the British Medical Journal found that seven percent of drivers involved in a fatal highway crash used marijuana.

The researchers estimated that at least 2.5 percent of the 10,748 fatal crashes studied were directly caused by the use of marijuana.

The researchers concluded that the risk of being responsible for a fatal crash increased as the blood concentration of THC, the active ingredient in marijuana, increased. Even small amounts of marijuana could double the chance of a driver suffering an accident, researchers said, and larger doses could more than triple the risk.
(end included text)

 

[our_auctionguy]

Nobody wants to know Cancer has genetic roots

Shooting yourself in the face with a gun causes an extra hole in your head.

If smoking caused cancer then eveybody that smoke would have cancer.. and we all that isnt the case...

It does increase your chances.. however you must have some genitic pre dispostion to the cancer gene or else nothing happens.

My Grand father died a few years ago.. a smoker for 70 years solid.. everyday...not a trace of cancer in his body..there are millions of other just like him.

In my Dad's side of the family, his Dad, 2 of his 3 brothers, 2 nephews out of 4 from the brothers , and 1 sister of his 4 sisters died from cancer of one form or another. My Dad died of stomach cancer when I was 18. Out of that entire group only two ever smoked cigarettes, my Dad smoked up until I was 9 when he was found to have tuberculosis, and one of his nephews smoked. Nobody else in that group.

On my recently departed Mother's side of the family, she had one sister, and five brothers with three of the brothers never raising families and the sister and other two brothers raisning a total of 8 nephews and nieces.

My Mother, her sister, and three of her brothers were full time smokers. My mother died of alzheimers at the age of 80 a year ago and no one on her side of the family to this date has ever contracted cancer in any form or died from cancer that we could establish from her grandparents forward to this day. The medical research community knows that some cancer has genetic roots and if you want to look at the slide show about the human genome project you will maybe learn something you might not like. There are cancer genes. I said some forms of cancer and not all have genetic roots. Some are caused by damaging organs from other chemicals such as asbestos, tar, lead, and the list goes on and on. My dad's probably started from the gene level and was helped by a 45 lead slug he carried in his gut from 1943 til the day he died from stomach cancer. The doctors said he showed no signs of cancer in his respiratory system when he died.

http://www.cancer.gov/cancertopics/understandingcancer/genetesting/Slide21

I guess being adopted has it's merits. I don't have a clue about my biological parents.

 

[DeadPoked]

I know that regular substantial pot use impairs judgment. Not just when you have a major buzz on either.

I'm glad you know that. Is there any proof to back that up?

I never said there was an issue with his reflexes. I did say that one or both of these things were an issue in every death or wreck I mentioned. Speaking of arguing with a wall, you not being able to accurately quote what you are debating against makes things pretty rough too. I never said anything about coordination. However . . . .

I apologize for not thinking you would actually be talking about his judgement being impared when he wasn't even high. That's a new one for me.

People who use are much like every diabetic I have ever known. They have always been able to convince themselves that what they really wanted to eat or drink did them no harm. Take a hard look at the amount of carcinogens in pot. Do you really think it is physically harmless to pack into your lungs?

Not one death has ever been linked to people dying from the physical affects of marijuana.

Now take a hard look at the behavioral changes in heavy users. With THC staying in the system constantly, doesn't it seem very likely that there are more subtle and gradual changes in people who use moderate amounts?

No

People who want to use pot will. However ignoring all evidence that it is physically harmful and that people are impaired while under the influence is worse than short-sighted.

People die everyday from slipping in the shower but people still find the courage to clean themselves... hopefully. Marijuana hasn't killed anyone since people have been using it. I'm not saying some idiot didn't get high and die in a car crash. But it isn't the norm. People die everyday changing the radio station... they shouldn't make radios illegal should they?

(a little research, included text)
Driving after smoking even a small amount of marijuana almost doubles the risk of a fatal highway accident, according to an extensive study of 10,748 drivers involved in fatal crashes between 2001 and 2003.
A study by the French National Institute for Transport and Safety Research published in the British Medical Journal found that seven percent of drivers involved in a fatal highway crash used marijuana.

There are around 300 million people in America. What percentage of those 300 million drive? 65%? 18 million Americans smoked marijuana last year... I imagine 7 percent of all drivers have marijuana in their system... not surprising 7 percent of all people involved in fatal crashes did have marijuana in their system. What an amazing study! Alert the presses.

The researchers estimated that at least 2.5 percent of the 10,748 fatal crashes studied were directly caused by the use of marijuana.

I'd truely love to hear the science behind this study... How could they possibly know that?

 

[BPG24]

I can't believe that some of you think that there is no side effects or addiction to marijuana. Maybe you are just blinded by your own use.

It effects everyone differently just like anything else. I know several people who are both addicted and have side effects.

 

[chefjeff]

if smoking only hurt the people doing it there would be no problems with it, but it hurts every one around,also it is your choice to smoke and mine not to, but when i am around smokers i have no choice because the smoke goes in every direction and i have to breathe it if i like it or not,and believe me i do not like it. it smells like sh*t and have you ever had to talk face to face with a smoker P.U. skunk breathe.

Emphasis, mine...

You DO have a choice to not place yourself in such unhealthy environments.

Is the choice utopian? No, but you DO have a choice. You have chosen to be in hall that has smokers in it. I do it, too, but not nearly as often as I used to. The hall owner chooses to lose my business (or not), HIS choice.

Values are subjective.

Jeff Livingston

 

[our_auctionguy]

Smoking marijauna has been the indirectly caused much suffering

............. for those incarcerated in prison for simple possession. People who have never robbed, murdered, raped, or intentionally harmed another person in their life have ended up incarcerated in Texas prisons for terms of 10 + years or more for simple possession of a matchbox of marijuana. I remember cops in Dallas in the 60's kicking doors in for a matchbox of *hit. Some of those poor bastards ended up in prison as some career criminal's girlfriend or worse.

And by the way.... what is wrong with being stoned and driving 45 on a freeway? Old people do it all the time and nobody locks them up.

If my headline makes sense to you..... you must be stoned.