Sniper vs Moori Slow tips

SCCues

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I'd like to share my opinion on Sniper tips for what it's worth.

I do cue repairs locally and I've done them for years and since I have my own lathe I've been able to keep my cues in top shape and it's allowed me to try a lot of different tips over the years.

My favorite tip up until recently was the Moori Slow tip and I have them on all of my shafts for my small cue collection. For the players who don't know the newest Moori Slow tips are not like the older Moori's. They are firmer and I'd call them a medium hard tip at least. I still have some of the older Moori Slow tips and some of the newest Moori Slow tips for my cues.

I read on AZ forums about Sniper tips and a lot of people gave them high praise, but I was reluctant to try one thinking they couldn't be as good as my Moori tips! I've played with Predator shafts also for years with Moori Slow tips and I've been satisfied up until now.

I was also wondering how OB-1 shafts compared to the Predators I've been playing with and I was itching to try an OB-1 also. I found an OB-1 with a Sniper tip on it in the wanted/for sale section with the trim rings installed by my cue maker to match one of my cues and the price was right. I decided this was the deal I'd been waiting for to try an OB-1 shaft and a Sniper tip at the same time.

I got the OB-1 with the Sniper tip and I couldn't believe how well it played, WOW. I also liked the Sniper tip on the shaft so I ordered a couple of them for spares to try on my Predator shafts later when I needed a new tip.

I played a match last night (9 ball race to 9) against a player at least my level or better and I used a 314-2 shaft with one of the newer Moori Slow tips on it. I fell behind 5-0 right off and the pressure was on me to get into the match. I fought back hard and got the match to hill hill (8-8) with me breaking and the last game ended up with clusters and very hard to run out. We went back and forth with me missing an easy shot which would have given me a good chance to win the match and when I missed I got a good roll and hooked my opponent. He made a great kick trying to hit the ball and he not only hit it, but he pocketed the ball and ran out to win the match 9-8. I was not happy, but satisfied at how well I came back and I knew I could have won if I hadn't dogged the shot (I tried to hit it with high inside English off the end rail to keep the cue ball in the middle of the table and I under cut the ball). It was a simple shot with center or outside English, but with the pressure of the match riding on the shot and hitting it with inside I missed it and ended up losing the match.

I wasn't happy with the Moori tip on my cue since I mis-cued a couple of times during this pressure packed match and I hated to do it since the tip was like new, but I decided this morning to replace the Moori Slow tip and install a Sniper tip since I liked the Sniper tip so much on my OB-1 shaft. I went ahead and changed the tip to a Sniper and as soon as I hit a couple of shots with the tip I could tell immediately that this was the tip for me. I'll be using them from now on and I know this is just my opinion, but for what it's worth I'd think about trying a Sniper tip the next time you need a new tip!

James
 
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:thumbup: I had a highly regarded cuesmith recommend a sniper and had him install one after a mega year layoff. Works very good for me, although I can't give much basis for comparison. It does seem a bit harder than what i had been using, but the adjustment was negligible.

It's only my second tip, the first one came with my one & only playing cue. I've used this sniper for @ 6 months, been playing @ 4 x's a week, and it looks like it will last forever. I rarely ever miscue, and it doesn't seem to be wearing. I can suck the chrome ... ohh never mind, really bad analogy...

I will tip pick it very carefully (pressing down while rolling it out to the circumference) when it looks a bit glazed over. It never mushroomed and I have yet to re-shape it in the least. Darn near maintenance free, consistent, long lasting and dependable. Can't ask for much more!
 
sniper is a great tip. i've been using it ever since i tried it out on an extra shaft i had. never used anything since. but i do have some wizard tips on the way to try as well! Sniper's are better then moori's, triangles, and pritty much everything out there. but i have been hearing excellent things about these wizard tips!
 
Texas Prez said:
If you guys start developing your own chalk made for the snipers look out!!!!!:eek:

Chalk is definitely the weak link in the chain. A chalkless tip, there have been some in the past, would be ideal; however the types of materials available today that would make such a thing a reality, play like crap!

Just like shaft-wise, non-wood composistes would prove to be the most consistent by far; however they feel like crap.

We at Tiger are on the constant R & D for new materials and construction methods. Some of our local customers can attest to trying out some of our prototypes of this and that. Not everything works, but we are trying :wink:
 
For the record, I am one who hates the Sniper Tips. Compared to the Moori - you have got to be kidding.
 
CrownCityCorey said:
Chalk is definitely the weak link in the chain. A chalkless tip, there have been some in the past, would be ideal; however the types of materials available today that would make such a thing a reality, play like crap!

Just like shaft-wise, non-wood composistes would prove to be the most consistent by far; however they feel like crap.

We at Tiger are on the constant R & D for new materials and construction methods. Some of our local customers can attest to trying out some of our prototypes of this and that. Not everything works, but we are trying :wink:

If yall were to make a chalk for phenolics and other J/Bs I think it would make a killing...but I have no idea what it would take as far as R/D goes to develop chalks
 
My opinion on Sniper tips didn't come quickly. I've used Moori tips for years and I thought they were the best tip and for some people they may work the best for their stroke and type of player they are, but for me and the way I play the Sniper tip gives me an advantage. It's easier for me to draw the ball and play closer to the center of the cue ball which gives less deflection and more accuracy.

I rarely post on AZ with a thread like this, but I wanted to pass on my thoughts on Sniper tips to others who may not have had the chance to try them. Everybody will have to make up their own minds about which tip works the best for them and my decision is made - Sniper tips.

I wish i'd had the Sniper tip on my shaft last night in the 9 ball match I referred to in the first post to this thread.

James
 
CrownCityCorey said:
I don't like Wolves, so there.
Add to that, they're no longer on the federal Endangered Species List... and several states out west are developing hunting seasons on them.
 
SCCues said:
My opinion on Sniper tips didn't come quickly. I've used Moori tips for years and I thought they were the best tip and for some people they may work the best for their stroke and type of player they are, but for me and the way I play the Sniper tip gives me an advantage. It's easier for me to draw the ball and play closer to the center of the cue ball which gives less deflection and more accuracy.

I rarely post on AZ with a thread like this, but I wanted to pass on my thoughts on Sniper tips to others who may not have had the chance to try them. Everybody will have to make up their own minds about which tip works the best for them and my decision is made - Sniper tips.

I wish i'd had the Sniper tip on my shaft last night in the 9 ball match I referred to in the first post to this thread.

James


I had played with Moori's for the last 4-5 years and hated how they continuously mushroomed all the time. I played with all 3 classes of Moori's, the quick, the medium and the slow.

Once I found Sniper tips I don't think I will ever change. They are liked a suped up Elk Master for lack of a better definition. They're a little harder than EM's and hold chalk just as well.

The only thing I don't like about Snipers is they are blue. I have become so fixated with having the side of the tip a dark color. And I don't want to use a sharpie!!:grin: And that is the only thing I don't like about them. I have been using a sniper for over 6 months. I break with it occasionally, although not extremely hard, and it still hasn't mushroomed the slightest bit. How's that for a tip?? Just brus a little chalk on and go!!


Hey Corey, I have been giving Sniper's a big thumbs up since I discovered them. I got a new shaft coming, so, could you send me another for the marketing work I been doing???:grin-square:


Gary
 
Dont get it

I play with a Moori Soft and love it. I am also interested in the Tiger products tip as their plant is close to where I live. The Sniper is advertised as a 'medium hard" tip. Big difference. The only comparabe tip would seem to be the one that appears white and is laminated cowhide. I am missing something. Help.
 
bell said:
I play with a Moori Soft and love it. I am also interested in the Tiger products tip as their plant is close to where I live. The Sniper is advertised as a 'medium hard" tip. Big difference. The only comparabe tip would seem to be the one that appears white and is laminated cowhide. I am missing something. Help.

Come by and try one out anytime.
 
Thanks Corey:

Happy to make your acquaintance at the Riv.

Just for my information, the white Tiger tip seems to be the only one advertised as "soft" and therefore most comparable to the Moori "soft".

Am I right? Hope to come by soon.
 
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